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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by PPL. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the music business

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TMT:68 Craig Logan On Being a Music Entrepreneur

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2025/11/10

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Craig Logan, a manager and executive whose career spans every corner of the industry.From his teenage years in Bros, to senior leadership roles at EMI and RCA, and now as the founder of Logan Media Entertainment (LME), Craig’s story is one of reinvention, resilience, and a lifelong passion for music. During their chat, Craig reflects on his remarkable journey, from playing to next to no one in clubs, to working with stadium-filling

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TMT:67 Nadia Khan On Powering Change In The Music...

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2025/11/03

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Nadia Khan, artist manager and founder of Women in CTRL.From championing gender equality across the music industry to breaking artists including Lethal Bizzle, Nadia has carved out a unique and influential path in the music industry. The pair discuss how Nadia built her career from intern to manager, how gender equality in the industry has progressed, and what needs to happen next in order for true

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TMT:66 The Charlatans Frontman Tim Burgess On Being A...

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2025/10/27

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark catches up with Tim Burgess, frontman of The Charlatans.As The Charlatans prepare to release We Are Love, their first album in eight years, Tim reflects on 35 years with one of Britain’s most beloved bands. The pair discuss the making of the new album, as well as how the band has survived through tragedy and change, and Tim’s ongoing mission to give back to the music world that shaped him, including championing grassroots venues and retail, his

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61:59

TMT:65 Henry Semmence & Simon Wills On Building A...

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2025/10/19

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Henry Semmence and Simon Wills, co-managing directors of Absolute Label Services. As pioneers of the label services model that transformed the modern business, the pair share the story of how they created an independent empire — and how they’re bouncing back after their time under the Utopia umbrella. With roots in retail, record labels, and distribution, Henry and Simon recount how Absolute has survived and thrived through every major

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62:44

TMT:64 Rich Castillo On Indie Labels’ Big A&R...

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2025/10/12

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Rich Castillo, President of LionBear Music Group and one of the UK’s most influential A&R executives of the past two decades.From his beginnings as a boy band hopeful, to discovering N-Dubz, signing Tion Wayne, and leading A&R teams at Polydor, Sony, and EMI, Rich’s career spans the past 20 years of British music. Now running his own independent label, publisher, and management company, he shares his hard-won insights into what it

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63:49

TMT:63 Fraser T. Smith On Producing Adele & Keeping...

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2025/10/05

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary producer, Fraser T Smith.With credits ranging from Adele’s “Set Fire to the Rain” to Stormzy’s “Gang Signs & Prayer”, as well as his own project, Future Utopia, Fraser has helped shape some of the most defining records of the 21st century. Now he’s here to discuss how he chooses which artists to work with, plus AI, catalogue sales and his Future Producer Academy. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up

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62:09

TMT:62 Josh Mateer On SoundOn’s A&R Revolution

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2025/09/28

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Josh Mateer, Head of A&R for Europe, Middle East and Africa at SoundOn, TikTok’s artist and label services platform.From his teenage days playing in punk bands and promoting shows in Belfast, to stints at Warner and Sony, and working with the legendary Seymour Stein, Josh has built a career that bridges grassroots music culture and the cutting edge of global artist services. In their chat, the pair discuss how TikTok is shaping the

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TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s...

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2025/09/21

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Matt Riley, the newly appointed president of AWAL UK.With a background that spans from DJing and promoting club nights, to cutting his teeth at Hospital Records, and then playing a pivotal role in shaping AWAL’s rise, Matt’s career reflects the evolution of the modern independent music business. Now at the helm of one of the UK’s most exciting label and distribution companies, he shares insights into what it takes to break artists in

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TMT:60 Jo Charrington on Discovering Sam Smith &...

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2025/09/14

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with a legend in the industry, Jo Charrington, president of Capitol Records.With a career spanning over three decades at labels including London, Virgin, BMG, Sony, EMI and now Universal, Jo has helped discover and break some of the world’s biggest artists, from Sam Smith and Paloma Faith to 5 Seconds of Summer, Olly Murs, and now Olivia Dean. During their chat, the pair discuss the realities of artist development, the pressures and

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63:53

TMT:59 Jack Garratt on Artists’ Struggles & The...

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2025/09/07

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with visionary British artist Jack Garratt. Jack first rose to prominence in 2016 after winning both the BBC Sound Of… poll and the BRIT’s Critic’s Choice Award, before earning a gold debut album with Phase. Almost a decade later, Garratt is back with his third album, Pillars. Throughout their chat, the pair discuss the struggles of a modern artist, the lack of mental health support within the industry, and why streaming your favourite

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61:12

TMT:58 Mark Orr On Taking The K’s To No.1 & Building...

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2025/08/31

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Mark Orr, founder of LAB Records.Starting the company while still at university and promoting DIY shows, Mark has grown LAB to hundreds of releases, while keeping a laser focus on artist development, physical retail, and sustainable growth. During their chat, Mark also breaks down how Indies compete on the biggest stages, what really moves the UK charts in 2025, and why location outside London can be a superpower rather than a

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TMT:57 Madeleine O’Gorman on Pendulum’s Big Comeback...

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2025/08/24

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Madeleine O’Gorman, General Manager for Mushroom Music Uk & Europe. Having grown up in Australia’s thriving independent scene before relocating to London, Madeleine has built a career across journalism, agencies, and label management at Liberator and Ivy League before stepping into her current role at Mushroom. The pair chat about the unique challenges of breaking Australian artists internationally, how Mushroom balances independence

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61:56

TMT:56 David Martin On Saving Grassroots Music & Why...

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2025/08/10

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artist’s Coalition (FAC).As a leading voice in championing fairness, transparency, and sustainability in the music industry, David is an expert in management, touring, and advocacy. The pair explore how the FAC is pushing for streaming reform, supporting artists post-Brexit, and fighting for artist-first structures across the music ecosystem. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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TMT:55 Alistair Norbury On Taking Kylie And Rick...

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2025/08/03

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alistair Norbury, President of UK, Europe and Asia-Pacific at BMG. Together, they explore how one of the world’s biggest music companies is rethinking deals, rights, and the artist-label relationship. From signing Kylie Minogue, Louis Tomlinson, and Craig David, to reviving classic catalogues from Black Sabbath, The Kinks, and Gary Numan, Alistair walks us through BMG’s artist-friendly ethos and global

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57:05

TMT:54 Grace Meadows On How To Promote Positive...

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2025/07/27

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Grace Meadows, Head of Music Minds Matter, the mental health charity supporting everyone who works in the music industry. From her roots as a music therapist to leading campaigns for Help Musicians and Music for Dementia, Grace has become a leading voice for mental health advocacy in the industry. The pair talk about the urgent mental health challenges facing artists, freelancers, and executives, the positive steps being made with

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62:48

TMT:53 Tom Connaughton on Indie Distribution’s Big...

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2025/07/20

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tom Connaughton, former UK & Ireland MD at Spotify, now Partner and Senior Advisor at Canvas Music Distribution.From pirate radio and Sony Music, to MySpace, Vevo, and Spotify, Tom has lived through every twist in the digital music revolution. Now he’s helping artists navigate a saturated market through boutique distribution and hands-on support. The pair catch up to reflect on Spotify’s past and future, how independent distribution is

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TMT:52 Cliff Fluet On The Future Of AI & Why The...

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2025/07/13

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Cliff Fluet, partner at Lewis Silkin, MD of Eleven Advisory, and now Chair of Music Technology UK. Cliff has spent decades helping artists, managers, rights holders, and tech companies navigate the complicated world of law, licensing, and innovation, from the rise of digital media, to the current era of generative AI. The pair chat about launching the first Music Tech UK Report, the real state of AI in music, the economic importance of

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TMT:51 David Massey On Bringing Oasis To America &...

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2025/07/06

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary label exec, David Massey, whose career has spanned over 40 years at labels such as Epic, Sony, Mercury, Island, and most recently Arista Records.Fresh off his retirement from corporate life, Massey reflects on working with global artists like Oasis, Shakira, Shawn Mendes, and The Killers, while offering his perspective on the music industry’s evolution. During the week leading up to the big Oasis reunion, the pair chat about

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TMT:50 Jim King on Turning BST Hyde Park Into A...

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2025/06/29

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week we celebrate our 50th episode and Mark is joined by Jim King, CEO of AEG Europe’s Festival Division.Jim is the driving force behind some of the UK’s biggest live music events, including American Express presents BST Hyde Park, All Points East, and newly launched Lido Festival. The pair chat backstage at BST Hyde Park to reflect on a career that spans Creamfields, Bestival, RockNess, and building AEG’s festival empire. Jim shares hard-earned insights on

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TMT:49 Alison Howe on Running Glastonbury’s Epic TV...

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2025/06/22

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alison Howe, Executive Producer of Music at BBC Studios, and the driving force behind the BBC’s epic Glastonbury TV coverage.With over 30 years at the BBC and a background spanning Radio 1, Later with Jools Holland, and iconic music specials, Alison shares her journey from secretarial college to being the BBC’s go-to for live music broadcasting. The pair chat leading up to the world-renowned Glastonbury festival to talk about behind

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