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130. The Purity Decade With Porn Slipped in the Side...

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2024/03/31

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe new HBO docuseries about Nickelodeon’s dark side, Quiet on Set, reveals the bad things that can happen when kids do adult work while actual adults behave like (troubled) kids. Child stars can be ultra-performers: Michael Jackson, Judy Garland, Ryan Gosling, Britney Spears, Olivia Rodrigo. But at what cost? Let’s ask Amanda Bynes and Drake Bell. (Or the cast of Diff’rent Strokes.) How many child stars will

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129. Squee, Boof, and the Devil's Triangle: Kavanaugh...

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2024/03/27

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comChristine Blasey Ford is back with her memoir One Way Back, and Nancy took one for the team and read it. Sarah, meanwhile, re-watched the eight-hour 2018 trial, because she’s insane. The Kavanaugh trial was a real moment: squee, boof, “I like beer.” Beyond the memes, however, it was more: a reckoning, a moral panic; an education, a national disgrace. Five years have passed. What can we see — or say — that we

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128. Leigh Stein Has a Squeaky Clean Colon*

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2024/03/19

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comLeigh Stein worked at Richual, a fast-rising women’s wellness company, when she was fired for posting about the company’s colon hydrotherapy requirement. *Actually, this did not happen to Leigh Stein, it happened to a character in her 2020 female empowerment satire SELF-CARE, which Stein has been promoting in a gonzo PR campaign on Instagram, delighting fans and confounding casual followers, who’d grown

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127. Bryan Burrough on '70's Political Violence,...

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2024/03/16

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comDays of Rage by Bryan Burrough is a modern classic. Nancy gushed over it so often Sarah finally read the thing, and damn, Nancy was right. Burrough is a longtime Vanity Fair contributor whose seven (!) books cover oil tycoons, Fortune 500 companies, and true crime, but we’re here to talk about his 2015 epic on 70s radicalism and political violence, which was criminally under-rated upon its release but has

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126. You're Just Ken

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2024/03/11

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comIt was Hollywood’s big night! Oscars 2024, a spectacle Nancy hadn’t seen in years (ed: she watched it last year) and Sarah found exhilarating, especially the Oppenheimer sweep (ed: her quote was, “It’s so boring”). But both found plenty to love — mostly Ryan Gosling burning down the house and reminding us this is fun.

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125. Tucker, Everlasting

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2024/03/05

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“I need to be clear that I don’t want to like Tucker Carlson,” Sarah says, right before going to the mat with Nancy over the controversial news host’s recent appearance on The Lex Fridman Podcast. Fresh from his Putin interview and his discovery of coin-operated shopping carts, Carlson gave a three-plus hour interview with Fridman, whom Nancy and Sarah both like. But Carlson? That’s a tough one. Carlson is the

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124. Spicy Chicken Sandwich With a Side of Culture War

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2024/03/01

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“I Was a Heretic at the New York Times,” an Atlantic essay by Adam Rubinstein, exploded on the old Twitter/X/Hate Machine. The story opens at a staff orientation where Rubinstein expresses love for Chick-Fil-A’s spicy chicken sandwich and gets rebuked. Did it happen? Can we know? What sauce goes best with a spicy chicken sandwich ? That one we know: Honey-roasted BBQ.So what is this journo-kerfuffle about? Why

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123. NUDES! NUDES! NUDES!

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2024/02/27

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah discuss male nudity: Barry Keoghan going bare for Vanity Fair, shirtless men in public, and which of them actually enjoyed getting a dick pic, though that’s NOT an invitation. Also discussed:* Sarah gets a new gig, and it’s a good one.* Did Shane Gillis bomb on Saturday Night Live?* “Our love, Mike Pesca”* Sarah will be barefoot at your party* Nancy learns the meaning of “spank bank”* Cinema’s

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122. Knives Out! The Great Personal Essay Debate

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2024/02/20

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThis is a hot one! Nancy and Sarah fundamentally disagree about Emily Gould’s viral essay on the lure of divorce. Nancy compares the story to the rot in France before the formation of the Vichy regime. Sarah believes personal essays like this help people feel less alone. Can she change Nancy’s mind, as Walter Kirn did on the most recent episode? (Fast-track to 33:08 for that 🔥 exchange.)Also discussed:* Should

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121. Walter Kirn: "Everybody's Learned to Love the...

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2024/02/17

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWalter Kirn sees the world with a spooky clarity. He’s an acclaimed novelist, podcaster, and the editor-in-chief of the print-only publication County Highway, a reading experience that could also be called, What We Lost in the Clickbait Era. Kirn joins Nancy and Sarah to discuss the absurd pageant of politics and media, domestic censorship and curated …

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120. Dan Savage Gives the World's Best Valentine's...

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2024/02/14

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comIt’s Valentine’s Day, like it or not. To celebrate, Nancy and Sarah brought on Dan Savage, the most influential sex expert of the past 30 years, and he did not disappoint! Savage is the man behind the long-running Savage Love column and its audio sibling, the Savage Lovecast, but he’s no longer with The Stranger, the Seattle-based alt-weekly he ran for a long time (and there’s a story behind that).Savage came on

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119. The Curious #MeToo Case of Yascha Mounk

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2024/02/08

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOn Jan 2, a writer named Celeste Marcus published an essay entitled, “After Rape: A Guide for the Tormented” in the free-speech literary journal Liberties, where Celeste is managing editor. She wrote about an incident in 2021 with a close male friend as they slept beside each other in bed. She called it rape; he did not. The man remained unnamed until February 4, when Celeste posted an email exchange to Twitter

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118. Jon Ronson on How We Lost Our Minds in 2020

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2024/02/05

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comJon Ronson’s 2021 podcast Things Fell Apart was that rare example of journalism that explains our current divisions without getting dragged down by them. A journalist and storyteller, Ronson’s documentaries, books, and essays have taken him into strange worlds — porn, the paranormal, neo-Nazis — and he’s always kind enough to bring us along with him, though it often feels like he’s leading us back to each other

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117. Not Just a Nightmare, but an "American Nightmare"

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2024/01/30

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comAmerican Nightmare is a docu-series on Netflix that has everyone talking. Sarah and Nancy are no exception! They discuss the case of the “real-life Gone Girl” who became a 2015 media sensation after her boyfriend reported a home invasion and a kidnapping with details so bizarre they couldn’t be real … or could they? (Conversation contains spoilers.) Also:* AI Nancy: Nicer and prettier than IRL Nancy?* Glamping

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116. Oscars So Male

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2024/01/26

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe Oscar nominations dropped, and folks are MAD. Despite breaking box-office records, Barbie failed to get the nod for Best Director or Best Actress. Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie, foiled again! As our friend Ben Dreyfuss tweeted: “The Other Genocide: The Oscars Treatment of White Women.” We talk about who really got snubbed, and why some people will never stop complaining about the treatment of women. Also:*

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115. The Great Polyamory Debate!

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2024/01/22

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah get down (!) to the serious business of ethical non-monogamy, thanks to the cover story in this week’s New York magazine. Is polyamory really a trend? Does opening your marriage ever work? Sarah finds this subject (professionally) fascinating; Nancy thinks it all ends in tears and grubbiness somewhere in Park Slope. Also discussed:* 2024: The Year of More Punching* Axl Rose was once an Indiana

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114. Matt Welch Doesn't Care How You Vote, As Long As...

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2024/01/18

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWith Nancy off in Israel, Sarah sits down with Matt Welch, crackerjack co-host of The Fifth Column — not to be confused with Matt Walsh, conservative commentator, or Matthew Welch, everyone’s favorite bagpiper. Matt is editor-at-large at Reason, whatever that means, and a long-time journalist, musician, and libertarian, a term Sarah tries to pin down (good luck with that). Also discussed:* Matt’s blood-boiling

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113. Martin Luther King Jr. Had a Dream, or Was It an...

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2024/01/15

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOur MLK Day episode kicks off with stories about the chain-smoking, philandering civil rights leader who is also one of the founding fathers of the American Dream. We discuss the terrific new movie American Fiction, and somehow segue to a discussion about Buckminster Fuller and geodesic domes. Which one of us will be guilty of “contempt prior to investigation”? Take a guess. Also discussed:* How is Sarah like

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112. A Taste for the Humiliation of Others

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2024/01/11

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe Bill Ackman-Neri Oxman-Claudine Gay-whoever else storm continues to rage. How does anyone get work done? We sort through the madness, and along the way:* Sarah gets a curious invitation …* Nancy is the “Epstein Island” of the Illuminati* Did Sinead die of a broken heart?* Bill Ackman’s tweets are longer than the Bible* How is Claudine Gay’s op-ed like Amber Heard’s?* What constitutes cheating, and should the

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111. Kat Rosenfield Holds a Party on Our Faces

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2024/01/05

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah welcome their first-ever repeat guest, Kat Rosenfield, and the result is a hot and steamy conversation about beauty standards, fatphobia, plastic surgery, sexual awakenings (and creep-outs). Along the way we discuss:* What rhymes with “potsticker” AND is a symbol of the worst of mankind?* The time Sarah was doxxed by the White Pages* Is “fat postivity” a fantasy? If so, is it a good one?*

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