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110. 2023 Best and Worst of Everything

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2023/12/31

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWhose DNA does Sarah want to roll around in? What does “uncanny valley” mean anyway? Whose music did Sarah find “a beautiful Frankenstein amalgam”? What podcast helps us move out of the wood-chipper of the culture wars? Is 2023’s worst political story also its best? Plus, hot guys, SO many hot guys, and Sarah reveals the good thing about comedy!

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Pie Talk 38: A Little Chocolate Cake

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2023/12/31

Good New Near’s Eve morning! I did not make that cake, a glacage miroir brilliant au chocolat but if you read French, have at! My better half Sarah Hepola is expecting me on-air within the hour so quick notes today… I was about to write, and then remembered what the gypsy lady told me…The voice of Ken Layne is something everyone should have in their life in 2024.I used to write fiction (and maybe there’s one more novel in me, the beginnings of which, genealogy charts and architecture books and 150

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109. It's a Christmas Sex Scandal Special!

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2023/12/25

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWe’ve reached that joyous time of year when Sarah listens to the 22-episode podcast about the 2020 Harvey Weinstein trial, an annual tradition. Nancy takes a break from baking to tell us about peeing in the woods and the giant stuffed hedgehog (maybe? see photo below) she just (kinda) wrapped. But the centerpiece of our celebration is sex scandal. First, a discussion of the Weinstein trial, because even three

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108. Sherman Alexie Wants His Scars

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2023/12/19

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWe interview Sherman Alexie, Native American author and top-tier Substacker, about Pretendians like Sasheen Littlefeather and Buffy Sainte-Marie, who steal trauma for their own status. We also discuss:* The ruse of the word “indigenous”* How inclusivity plays out in a younger generation of “defendians”* “I grew up in hell”: hard life on the rez* The genetic link of blackout drinking* You wake up naked on the top

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107. Kerry Howley on Getting Lost to Find the Story

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2023/12/14

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWriters write. And sometimes talk shop! This week, Sarah and Nancy chat with one of the best: Kerry Howley, essayist extraordinaire and author of the superlative and unclassifiable Bottoms Up and the Devil Laughs, a book about “the deep state,” according to its cover, though Kerry admits, “I don’t know what this book is about.” Bottoms Up is unsettling, quietly profound, introducing us to whistleblowers like

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106. Immoral Clarity

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2023/12/08

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comSarah and Nancy dive into that mess of a Congressional hearing on college antisemitism. Did the three presidents — Claudine Gay from Harvard, Liz Magill from University of Pennsylvania, Sally Kornbluth from MIT — step up to the moment? They did not. But were the questions unfairly stacked? Did they make fair points about “context”? Is part of living in a diverse society the privilege — yes, privilege — of being

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105. Just the Tip

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2023/12/05

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comAmid the protests that have shut down more than one New York bridge, we take time to celebrate our rizz, explain why the term “tipflation” won’t catch on, and invent an entirely new word. Also on tap:* Word of the year* What happens when the right to free speech clashes with your right to get to work?* Philadelphia pro-Palestinian protest gets ugly* Columbia School for Social Workers are not sending their best*

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104. Love and Rockets and Whoever the Heck Parson...

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2023/11/29

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comSarah and Nancy are together in New York, along with a pink tree and some confusing Christmas lyrics. In this season of love and war, we discuss:* Which holiday standard will make us millions?* What is “parse and brown” and what does it have to do with Christmas?* What was Nancy’s Not Finest Hour and does it involve yelling at protestors on the Manhattan Bridge?* Macy’s Day Parade protesters apply Super Glue

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103. Second Thoughts on the Revolution

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2023/11/22

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe Fall of Minneapolis is a crowd-funded documentary that raises serious questions about the George Floyd trial. Was officer Derek Chauvin actually following protocol? Why didn’t jurors see critical body cam footage? And what was going on with that autopsy? Buuuut the documentary comes from a Minnesota group with right-wing politics, so you likely won’t read much about it outside Fox News. Too bad, because one

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Pie Talk #33: Thanksgiving Stuffing

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2023/11/19

Good morning! There are five days to Thanksgiving and a lot of us are already making shopping lists, if as yet for me only in my head. I love grocery shopping, a love I passed down to my daughter, and somewhere on the interwebs is a short video of her surfing her shopping cart through Fred Meyer market in Portland saying, “Wheeeee!” I love New York City, but the grocery shopping experience after nearly 30 years of well-lit, wide-aisled west coast supermarkets? Abysmal. As I mention in the audio, my

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102. Protesting the Protesters

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2023/11/14

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comProtests are the gift of a free society. But also: Annoying! We talk about three recent stories on the explosion of activism over the Israel-Hamas war, and when “building a better world tomorrow” ends up tearing apart the community today.* Nancy stans Dave Barry; Sarah needs convincing* Humanity is hard. Protesting is easy.* Why has the 21st century seen a threefold increase in protests?* What would you do if

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101. The Intimacy and the Horror: Footage of October 7

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2023/11/09

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comAfter an update about how mice might have gotten into Nancy’s apartment (human trafficking, anyone?), she and Sarah discuss the 44 minutes of footage Nancy recently saw at a screening in New York, “Bearing Witness to the October 7th Massacre.” Nancy wrote about it in a recent essay, “This is Terror,” and they talk about the carnage, sorrow, and soul murder that is war.

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100. Hollywood Behaving Badly

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2023/11/03

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comIt’s our 100th episode! Time for a pop quiz, then on to the following:* HBO president caught secretly striking back against critics* But is working on HBO’s The Idol grounds for any lawsuit?* Love for Alan Sepinwall, fastest TV critic in the West* Behind the scenes at Tucker Carlson’s exit from FOX* The “c-word”* “She said Tucker Carlson is a messenger from God, and he said nope.”* The word Nancy cannot stand,

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99. Mike Pesca, Turbocharger of Sensible Political...

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2023/10/31

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOur guest is the “Long Island-accented, turbocharged” Mike Pesca, host of The Gist. We begin — and end! — with fabu tech failure, but along the way, we talk to the intrepid podcaster about getting thrown on the funeral pyre at Slate, why he can’t stand slow talkers, Israel-Hamas press coverage and culture clashes, and his high metabolism for information. Also discussed:* Pesca’s podcast listening hack* When is a

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98. Campus Clashes, Power Grabs, and a Scary...

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2023/10/27

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThis week has left many of us on a razor’s edge, watching posters of the Israeli kidnapped torn down,* protesters banging on the glass of Cooper Union’s library while Jewish students hide, and all variety of, “Did someone really say that”!? A “Flood Brooklyn for Gaza” march takes place tomorrow, the Sabbath, in a heavily Jewish section of Brooklyn (and if you think the “flood” allusion is arbitrary, think

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97. Yael Bar Tur on Israel, Moral Cowardice, and...

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2023/10/24

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comAn air raid siren went off the moment we sat down to interview Yael Bar Tur. “Give me five minutes,” said the co-host of the “Ask a Jew” podcast. “I have to go to the bomb shelter.” An Israeli who lives in New York City, Yael was visiting her family in Tel Aviv when Hamas massacred 1400 Israelis and kidnapped 220 others on October 7. She has so far decided to stay, documenting the conflict and terror on her

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96. Killers of the Golden Bachelor Moon

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2023/10/20

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah are here to talk about beauty and wonder and love and heartbreak, from a wave of Natives in film to a new twist on an old reality show. But first, they discuss the utter failure of media outlets covering the missile strike on a Gaza hospital, most likely a misfire from a Palestinian group that was initially reported as an Israeli rocket because, well, Hamas said so. We hope the journalistic fails

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95. Bridget Phetasy on Slut Years, Grief-Scrolling,...

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2023/10/17

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah chat with the charming Bridget Phetasy, host of the podcast Walk-Ins Welcome and the YouTube show Dumpster Fire, her weekly take on the news-and-nonsense cycle. Bridget is ten years sober (tomorrow!), and we revisit her reckless youth with a discussion of her essay, “I Regret Being a Slut.” She also explains how motherhood snuck up in her 40s after she’d come to peace with not having kids. Also

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94. Greg Lukianoff on the Canceling of the American Mind

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2023/10/10

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOur guest is Greg Lukianoff, president and CEO of FIRE (The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression) and author of the new book, The Canceling of the American Mind, which he wrote with Ricki Schlott. The book is a “walk down trauma lane” of the past several years, covering the feeding frenzy to go after people with views other than your own — and how we get out of it. Greg can chart when this mess began,

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Pie Talk #29: Kugel (Pies for Peace)

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2023/10/07

Good morning Pie Talk listeners. Waking up to the news that Hamas attacked Israel and that the country is now at war. I immediately texted my friend Yael Bar tur, who lives in NYC but is home in Tel Aviv visiting with family, a family I know and love. I had not yet read anything else, but for her tweet below. If you’re on Twitter, you can follow Yael, who will assuredly be posting updates.Ten minutes before I checked in with Yael I’d gone through the handwritten recipes I have sitting on top of the

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