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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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02:08:11

Refin Rewind: Al Snow

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2023/07/19

This week we celebrate the 60th birthday of Al Snow with a Refin Rewind from the show we did with Al from January of this year. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Enjoy

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01:01:25

Refin Rewind: Earl Hebner

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2023/07/12

This week we take a stroll down memory lane with a Refin Rewind with the show Brian and RJ did with Earl Hebner from last November. If you missed it the first time now is your chance to listen to it. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠ Do anyway with rough

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01:20:02

Ask Brian and Jimmy Anything

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2023/07/05

You had questions we give you the answers, as we have an Ask Brian and Jimmy Anything this week. Brian and Jimmy also talk about the 25th anniversary of the Hollywood Hogan and Goldberg WCW Championship match from the Georgia Dome on July 6, 1998. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ

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02:15:45

A Women In A Man’s World

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2023/06/29

Traci Brooks was one of the original women in TNA in the early 2000s and continued to pave the way for women in TNA. She did some of her best work with Gail Kim, ODB, and Jackie Moore to name a few. Traci really came into her own when she became a manager/valet to some of the greats on the TNA roster. Learning from Dusty Rhodes, Jerry Jarrett, Ricky Morton and Bobby Eaton she had her eyes opened to the part of the business she never thought she would see. This and so much more this week.

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01:18:18

Refin Rewind: Kurt Angle

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2023/06/21

This week we have a Refin Rewind episode with the interview we did with Kurt Angle from March of this year. However, before that we bring in Dollar Bill Dave from the Filter Free Podcast to join Brian and RJ in a new segment called "Stump the Ref" where Dave says that Randy Orton is overrated and Brian defends the notion that Randy is not overrated. Dollar Bill Dave/ Filter Free Podcast Social Twitter: @DaveInTheQc @ffpopcast Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:52:54

Bet On Yourself

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2023/06/14

Frankie Kazarian has recently celebrated some milestone moments in his wrestling career; he speaks on that, being trained by the great Killer Kowalski, what led him to go back to IMPACT Wrestling, and what the wrestling business means to him, as he has bet on himself and tries to give back to the next generation of wrestlers. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter:

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01:27:41

The World According To Chimel

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2023/06/07

Tony Chimel has done it all in the wrestling business; for over 30 years Tony did a lot in the WWE; from driving the ring truck to being one of the best ring announcers of all time. Brian, Jimmy, and Tony reminisce about the great times from days past in wresting with some great stories throughout. This and much more on this weeks episode. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social

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02:12:47

Drop The Mic with Ken Anderson

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2023/05/31

Ken Anderson was one of the most recognizable stars in WWE and TNA; and this week he talks about the trials and tribulations that he encountered in and outside the ring. Ken also remembers some of the biggest moments in his career such as working with the Undertaker and Mr McMahon. Some of his best work happened in TNA as a member of Aces and Eights as well as his great feuds with Bully Ray and Kurt Angle. All this and more on our latest episode Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:24:17

Dishing Dirt With Raj Giri

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2023/05/24

Raj Giri has broke some of the biggest news in professional wrestling since starting Wrestling INC in 1997 as he joins us this week. Wrestling Inc was once of the first wresting sites many fans visited to get all their wrestling news when they became a fan. Raj went on to speak on what went into the creation of the website and what he went though to maintain it. Raj talks about some of the best times currently in wrestling as well as some of the times that remain in our memories forever. Refin

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01:20:28

From a Kid to the X-Factor

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2023/05/17

This week we celebrate the career of one of the greatest workers of all time Sean Waltman; aka Syxx, Xpac, 123 Kid, The Kid, and Lightning Kid. On May 17, 1993 the 123 Kid scored one of the biggest upsets of all time in WWE when he defeated Razor Ramon on Monday Night Raw. Brian and Jimmy discuss this iconic moment and so much more about the Hall of Fame career of Sean Waltman. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG

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01:52:45

Tales of Casanova

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2023/05/10

Kenny Casanova joins Brian and Jimmy this week on the show. As an author of so many great books, he talks about what goes into writing and preparing some of the great books you see on the shelves today. However, Kenny also talks about the joy he has when he can work with some of the people that he grew up watching and following. All of this and some very funny stories he has been a part of in and outside the ring. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:44:50

Stronger Then The Business

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2023/04/26

This week we welcome Ken Patera to the show, and is full of great stories you will only hear on this episode. From his power lifting days to running up and down the road with some of the greats in wrestling history; Ken has seen and lived it all. We also have a special run in from his WWE days that caught Ken by surprise. Find out who joined us and so much more on this weeks episode. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG

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01:44:12

Wrestling On The Edge

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2023/04/19

The “Rated R Superstar” Edge has been a fixture in the wrestling business for over two decades; this week Jimmy and Brian dive deep into the career of Edge, including some great stories from the past. As a 31 time champion Edge built his career at an early age with Christian while at school, and then made their dreams a reality when they signed with WWE. Edge’s career may seem like a fiction novel to some but to Edge it is real and he will continue to make the best out of it as long as he has left

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01:25:38

Fanging N Banging

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2023/04/12

One of the best wrestling minds of all time joins us this week on Refin It Up. Gangrel joins Brian and Jimmy to talk about the foundation of what went in to the character of Gangrel. We also go into depth on the formation of “The Brood,” even in its short run of 8 months got over huge with the WWE audience and is still talked about to this day. Gangrel is the current head trainer at Coastal Championship Wresting in Florida and he speaks on the school and a few of the wrestlers that he thinks

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01:42:26

Being Immortal

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2023/04/05

Without Hulk Hogan the wrestling business would not be where it is today. This week Brian and Jimmy talk about some of the great moments he had in WWE, WCW, and TNA. Before Scott Hall and Kevin Nash jumped from WWE to WCW Hulk Hogan did it in 1994 and helped to put WCW on the map; making people turn the channel to see what was happening on WCW television. Towards the back end of his career Hulk had one last run in WWE in 2002, helping put over guys like The Rock and Brock Lesnar. However, he

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01:17:45

The Angle On Wrestling

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2023/03/29

It’s True, It’s Damn True!!! Your Olympic Hero, Kurt Angle is the guest on this weeks episode. However, before Kurt comes on the show with us, seeing that it is Wrestle Mania week Brian and Jimmy remember some of their favorite memories of Wrestle Mania. Secondly, Kurt talks about his record breaking first year in the business. We attempted to figure out who had a similar first year; listen to find out who we think. Not only did Kurt have a phenomenal career in WWE but when he went to TNA in 2006

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01:43:14

The Scarlette Letter

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2023/03/22

Scarlette Donovan is one of the up and coming referees in wrestling; and she joins us this week on the show. Scarlette has been working all over the world; from Japan to Mexico and up to Canada, she has reffed all over. She also has the ability to say that she was the first female referee to work a New Japan Pro Wrestling match. Scarlette is the senior referee for the promotion she trained at, Santino Brothers and has also made a name for herself with Game Changer Wresting (GCW). The desire and

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02:16:04

Legendary Stripes

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2023/03/15

For the first time in 20 years Brian Hebner, Jimmy Korderas, and Mike Chioda are in the same place once again. This week we welcome Mike Chioda to the show as we share great memories from the road and give some advice to some of the current crop of talent. Three of the greats of all time talk shop makes this weeks episode a must listen. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter:

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01:39:53

The Giant and Boss

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2023/03/08

The 8th wonder of the world Andre The Giant is the most polarizing figure in all of professional wrestling, and this week we talk about some great times and moments in his career. Andre was the attraction that wrestling desperately needed in the 1980s when the business needed to gain some momentum. Brian and Jimmy also remember some funny stories involving meeting Andre, the Ultimate Warrior, and drinking with Andre. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian

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01:39:24

Reffing To A Handler

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2023/03/01

This week we remember the life and career of a close friend to everyone that met him; we talk everything Tim White. The early days saw him being Andre The Giant’s go to guy. Later on we saw him in the ring as one of the most recognizable referees in WWE history. After getting injured in a Hell In A Cell Match in 2002 Tim began a backstage roll with the company then kept him in the business that he loved so much. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner

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