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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know...

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2023/03/29

Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know Your Marketplace In episode 24, our hosts recall adjacent experience that loosely correlated to their current careers, and Josh and Kevin sit down to talk business with Jerry Ross and Adrienne Crane-Ross. Jerry discusses his path to the industry through being in a band and managing a rehearsal studio while Adrienne recalls her path into the industry through being a sound engineer and then a multiple Emmy Award winning PBS Children’s producer. Both

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Ep. 23 Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium: The Future is...

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2023/03/22

Ep. 23 EALS: The Future is Bright! We are joined by the student leaders of the Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium (EALS), Morgan Fuller, Faith Smith, and Lisette DuFore. Katie jumped at the opportunity to chat with the future leaders in our industry to hear what is important to them as they enter the field. Our hosts share what they thought they would be doing when they were still in college, and share stories of the big actions they are taking in their organizations. American University

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Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success

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2023/03/15

Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a story

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Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship

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2023/03/08

Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship On this episode, our hosts recall thing that drew them into booths at conferences, and Bryan sits down to talk business with Stephen Sunderlin. Stephen shares his story of moving to NYC and eventually becoming the Artistic Director at Vital Theatre Company. Stephen shares the benefits of connections, the details of producing new works, the importance of good marketing materials, and the value of being open to working every experience in

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Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.

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2023/03/01

Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next. Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together. Follow us on social

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Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big

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2023/02/22

Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big This week's episode is a special one! It is the first of two that highlights the individuals that introduced our hosts. Our hosts talk about getting that phone call, and then Bryan, Danielle, and Kevin share their conversation with Christine Cox. Christine shares her journey from playing a Princess to owning her own agency and gives incredible insight on the risk vs. Reward of artist acquisitions and contract types. Christine Cox is the Owner and Founder of

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Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building

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2023/02/15

Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building Our hosts talk about their favorite experience on stage. Katie chats with Christi Dortch about her career journey, when to listen to what your community is ready for and when to push them. Katie and Christi also discuss the relearning of in person communication coming out of the pandemic zoom meeting norm. The interview covers 3 things that you can use to shape your strategic plan and Christi discusses the function of state consortiums. Christi

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Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly?

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2023/02/08

Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly? Our hosts talk about the instruments they played when they were younger, and the importance of arts education. Bryan takes an opportunity to chat with Marian Liebowitz about her teaching background and the importance of the business side of our industry, as well as her unique approach to curating artists. Marian Liebowitz is the owner of Marian Liebowitz Artist Management (https://www.marianliebowitz.com/) as well as a former performer and

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Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts...

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2023/02/01

Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing Josh Holliday joins our host, Katie, to demystify Arts Marketing by giving real examples of how to create a marketing plan, how PR differs from marketing, and more. Our hosts talk about their favorite marketing campaigns, and revel in the masterclass that Josh Holliday presented in this short interview. Josh Holliday has a career in Arts Marketing, founded Fresh Coast Perspective (https://www.freshcoastperspective.com/), and is currently

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Ep. 15 Ken Waldman: Alaska’s Fiddling Poet

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2023/01/25

On this episode, Bryan sits down with Alaska’s Fiddling Poet, Ken Waldman. Bryan and Ken talk about Ken’s life on the road, his time as an educator, how he approaches his work including conferences, and even gives us a snippet of his work. Our hosts talk about trying to explain what it is they actually do, and explore the genuine approach that Ken takes to relationship building in the indusrty. Ken Waldman is a musician, author, poet, and founder of Nomadic Productions

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Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time

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2023/01/18

Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time Our hosts reflect on their first mentors and the impact they had. Josh found some time at International Entertainment Buyers Association (IEBA -https://www.ieba.org/) Conference to sit down with Larry Kosson. Larry shares his origin story, and talks about his true passion, mentorship. Larry was awarded the 2019 Mentorship Award from the Western Arts Alliance (WAA - https://www.westarts.org/) . Larry Kosson is the Founder and President of Kosson Talent

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Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds Growth

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2023/01/11

Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds Growth We kick off this week with stories from past APAP (Association of Performing Arts Professionals) Conference before Katie dives into a conversation with Krista Bradley. Krista shares the journey that landed her at APAP, why cultural humility is important, and why you should listen to your impulses. Krista Bradley is the Director, Programs and Resources at APAP (https://apap365.org/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions

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Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to...

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2023/01/04

Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to Wonder Bread Our hosts talk about tech riders, before an engaging conversation with this week's incredible guest, Pat Hazell. Pat shares his insights on storytelling, “renting seats,” contracts, and shares his journey and only begins touching on his career. Pat Hazell is a writer, producer, director, podcaster, comedian, and more. He is the founder and Chief Creative Officer of Sweetwood Creative (http://sweetwoodiscreative.com/) and the host

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Ep. 11 It’s a Holiday Party!

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2022/12/28

Ep. 11 It’s a Holiday Party! Our hosts take a week off from interviewing to have a little holiday fun. Katie’s son, Leo, makes an appearance to spread some holiday cheer, we all play some games, and we share what we plan to work on in the new year. Want to give us a present this year? Thank you to all of you who gave us a listen in 2022 and helped get this podcast off the ground. Leave us a review! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions -

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Ep. 10 Jennifer Morris & Laurel Canan: Becoming Tour...

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2022/12/21

Ep. 10 Jennifer Morris & Laurel Canan: Becoming Tour Ready Jennifer Morris and Laurel Canan didn’t start out in the arts, like most they discovered their path along the way. Bryan and Josh sit down with them to talk about artist management, being tour ready, and what led them to the industry they love. Our host chime in with their translatable skills from their jobs before the arts, and on the importance of good marketing materials. Jennifer Morris and Laurel Canan are with Seigel Artist Management

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Ep. 9 Xavier Verna: Discovering Shared Values

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2022/12/14

Ep. 9 Xavier Verna: Discovering Shared Values This week our hosts talk about their love of historic venues and Katie sits down with Xavier Verna. Xavier and Katie talk about managing historic theatres, working in small communities, how to make purposeful partnerships, and the important role that EDI plays in managing an arts organization. Xavier Verna is the Executive Director of the Ramsdell Regional Center for the Arts (https://ramsdelltheatre.org/) in Manistee, Michigan. Links to resources

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Ep. 8 David Wannen: Just Show Up

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2022/12/07

Ep. 8 David Wannen: Just Show Up Our hosts talk about getting over nerves, imposter syndrome, and the importance of being tightly routed. Our guest, David Wannen, shares how he got over his nerves, how his organization builds a route, and some practical approaches to conferences, including the importance of “the hang”. David Wannen is the Executive Director and a performer with the New York Gilbert & Sullivan Players (https://nygasp.org/). David is also a past president of NAPAMA and an avid

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Ep. 7 Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition

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2022/11/30

Ep. 7 Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts reminisce about their questionable music choices as young children and acknowledge that you can love your job and still need time for yourself. Sarah McCarthy is the Agency Owner and Creative Producer at Dandelion Artists (https://www.dandelionartists.com/) representing the best in family music with

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Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health

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2022/11/16

Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health We talk about our origin stories on this episode, and Katie has a heartfelt conversation with our friend, Max Darwin, about creating a magic show, hard work, empathy, and mental health. Max Darwin is an actor, public speaker, and magician who might be best known by his stage persona, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

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Ep. 4 Tommy Hensel: Be Kind to Yourself

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2022/11/09

Ep. 4 Tommy Hensel: Be Kind to Yourself Everyone is busy! We learn a little more about what our hosts do outside of their day jobs. Check out #marionmurals on Instagram and visit https://www.pocahontasproject.org/. Kevin chats with Tommy Hensel about a new booking conference, Midwest Arts Xpo (MAX), challenges facing the industry, selfcare and more. Tommy Hensel is the Senior Director of Performing Arts at Elgin Community College (https://eccartscenter.org/) and Board President of Heartland

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