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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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34:18

BTB Ep 135: Sony sells Spotify shares; Ilana Broad on...

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2018/06/18

Hi Podcast Listeners! The Podcast now has its own Twitter account! Visit us @thebtbpodcast. This week, Ryan discusses Sony's sale of part of its stake in Spotify and its decision to share some of the proceeds with its artists. Is Sony being magnanimous, or is there an ulterior motive driving their actions? Ryan discusses the issue and reflects on what this story signifies for the balance of power between labels and artists in the New Music Industry. Ryan also sits down with entertainment lawyer and

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BTB Ep 134: Exclusive recording agreements and...

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2018/06/10

Hi Podcast listeners. Ryan is back from his hiatus with new episodes! This week, Ryan discusses the recent article in Vulture about Lily Allen's abuse allegations and how they relate to the dangers of record industry contracts. Ryan also sits down with industry expert Clara Charron to discuss her "Pop of Colour" music blog. Clara gives some great advice on how musicians can start their own video series. Check out Clara's work at popofcolourmusic.com and be sure to check out her weekly Facebook Live

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52:46

BTB Ep 133: Interviews with Bobby Owsinski and Guy &...

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2018/06/04

This week, we feature an interview with Bobby Owsinski of the Music 3.0 blog and Guy & Ilan Ferdman of Satori Prime. Great music industry advice this week that will definitely inspire your inner entrepreneur! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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52:42

BTB Ep 132: Interviews with The Krickets and Shawnee...

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2018/05/28

This week, we feature an interview with The Krickets where we discuss collaborating effectively with bandmates and an interview with songwriter Shawnee Kilgore to discuss hypercreation. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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56:04

BTB Ep 131: Interviews with Cheryl B. Engelhardt and...

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2018/05/21

This week, we feature an interview with Cheryl B. Engelhardt to discuss branding and an interview with Holley Maher to discuss The Other Nashville Society and finding sync opportunities for your music. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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56:16

BTB Ep 130: Interviews with the Rock Star Advocate...

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2018/05/14

This week, we feature interviews with Suzanne "The Rock Star Advocate" Paulinski and Bruce Wawrzyniak. In the first interview, we discuss self care and time management. In the second interview, we discuss how to get more show bookings as an artist. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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BTB Ep 129: Andrew Hitz talks music education and...

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2018/05/06

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, music entrepreneurship expert Andrew Hitz stops by to give us lots of fantastic tips to help you move your career forward. We also have a discussion with him about the current state of higher education and music and whether music schools are doing enough to teach entrepreneurship to its indie artist students (spoiler alert: they aren't!). Be

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59:13

BTB Ep 128: Avoiding bad management deals; James...

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2018/04/30

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!In the first segment, Ryan talks about the recent lawsuit involving Cardi B and her former manager. He uses the story to talk about the common pitfalls in artist management deals and how to avoid them as an indie artist. In the second segment, music industry expert James Shotwell stops by to talk about music piracy and the importance of using

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47:16

BTB Ep 127: Indie artists are growing fast!; Bree...

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2018/04/23

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan discusses findings from a recent study released by Midia Research which noted that unsigned artists only make up 2.7% of global recorded music revenue. Does this mean that it is a bad idea to go indie? Heck no! Ryan breaks down the study and discusses why there has been no better time to take control of your own music career. Music

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BTB Ep 126: The new Music Modernization Act; building...

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2018/04/15

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!In the first segment, Ryan breaks down the latest version of the Music Modernization Act that is making its way through Congress. The bill just made it through the House Judiciary Committee with strong bipartisan support. It has a real chance of passing and, if it passes, it will have significant implications for your music career. Ryan also answers a

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54:21

BTB Ep 125: Discussing metadata with Chris Cass from...

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2018/04/08

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!NOTE: Zola has a song on the Lifetime TV show "Mary Kills People" that will air on April 9th. Don't miss it!In the first segment, Ryan provides additional info for artists on the tax laws that will take effect for this year. There are things that all artists should be doing right now in their career to get on the right track with their taxes, and Ryan

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56:58

BTB Ep 124: Physical outselling downloads?; Angela...

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2018/04/01

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan discusses the RIAA's 2017 Music Industry Revenue Report. The industry continues to grow, but is it growing in a way that will help indie artists? Ryan breaks down the report, discusses some of its more interesting findings (particularly the rise of physical distribution and the fall of downloads), and talks about what it all means for

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BTB Ep 123: We talk networking and sweet treats with...

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2018/03/18

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan answers a listener e-mail about staying motivated in your music career and maximizing your revenue streams as a musician. Ryan also sits down with Muddy Paw PR CEO Angela Mastrogiacomo and gets some great networking tips from an expert publicist and music industry blogger. Find out more about her fantastic work by visiting

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58:38

BTB Ep 122: 20 years of CD Baby with Kevin Breuner;...

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2018/03/12

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan gives you more networking tips so you can build your industry relationships and move your career forward. Ryan is also joined by CD Baby VP Kevin Breuner to discuss the distribution service's last two decades, how the industry has changed for indie artists over that time period, and what the future holds for the industry. We also debut

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1:14:08

BTB Ep 121: Twitch tips from experts Evan and Elisa;...

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2018/03/05

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, friends of the podcast and Twitch music experts Evan and Elisa are live in the studio. They talk to Ryan about the Music Modernization Act and its effect on independent songwriters. They also give some fantastic tips on how to do great things on the Twitch platform as musicians. Follow Elisa @elisarockdoc and follow Evan @evanlambguitar

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1:04:44

BTB Ep 120: How to network when you suck at...

Break the Business ·

2018/02/25

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan talks about a recent article on building relationships in the music industry by acclaimed publicist Angela Mastrogiacomo. He uses that article to go into a broader discussion about effective networking, and specifically how to do it well even if you are socially awkward and have difficulty approaching people at cocktail parties. You

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1:06:12

BTB Ep 119: Using social media with your live shows;...

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2018/02/18

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan gives tips on using social media to get more people out to your live shows by discussing a recent article in by Simon Tam in Music Think Tank titled "40 Ways Bands Can Use Social Media To Increase Engagement At Shows". In the second segment, lawyer and podcaster Shawn Yesner stops by for an interview. Shawn is the host of the Crushing

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1:01:29

BTB Ep 118: Songwriters got a raise!; Tommy Darker...

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2018/02/11

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading. Be sure to get a copy of the Break the Business audiobook, now available on Amazon, Audible, and iTunes!This week, Ryan is back from China and spends his first episode back breaking down the recent Copyright Royalty Board ruling increasing songwriter royalties on streaming platforms. This is a win for you, the songwriter. But is it a big win? Ryan also sits down with Whiise founder and friend-of-the-show Tommy Darker to talk about his platform and get

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1:05:53

BTB Ep 117: #WomenCrush Music Takeover Part 2:...

Break the Business ·

2018/02/04

This week, #WomenCrush Music Founder, Ashley Kervabon, chats with the organization's Head of Marketing, Katie Zaccardi & Branding Empress, Michelle Costanza about the complexities of mental health in the music industry. They discuss self-care practices like yoga and finding time to go to therapy, and answer questions and stories submitted by the community. Some resources mentioned in this episode are: Yoga with Adriene (https://www.youtube.com/user/yogawithadriene) & Talkspace.About #WomenCrush

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59:36

BTB Ep 116: #WomenCrush Music Takeover Part 1: The...

Break the Business ·

2018/01/28

This week, #WomenCrush Music Founder, Ashley Kervabon, chats with the organization's Queen of Operations (and recording artist) Moe Lincoln about how to balance being a business person, artist and being a woman in the industry. They discuss different roles in the industry, important basic business tips, how to get started as an artist & how to stay sane while doing it all. The resources they mention range from networking events like Balanced Breakfast (https://www.blncdbrkfst.com/), Facebook groups

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