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168. Sex Boycotts, Blue Bracelets, and Justine Bateman

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2024/11/11

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comRats in the walls, ghosts in the bull rushes and some extreme reactions to the election of Donald Trump as president. What to do? Swear off sex? Buy a blue bracelet at Target? Excise at least 53% of Americans from your life? Sounds tragic. Maybe what we need is a child actress from the ‘80s to deliver some common sense …Also discussed:* A 🌹 is code for …* Worry is not useful* When a protest for sexual freedom

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167. Trumped! November surprise comes after all

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2024/11/07

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comTrump won, Kamala lost. People have feelings about this (including us). But it’s not going to get easier imagining that 50% of Americans are racists, misogynists, or whatever other -ist can be deployed to explain how Republicans pulled off a stunning victory on Tuesday, which some worry is ushering in an unprecedented period of darkness…As it turns out, the sun rose! And Nancy and Sarah talk about What Happened:

64:30

166: What Scares Us: Movies, Politics ... Moldy Cheese?

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2024/10/31

Sarah is scared to fly, Nancy is freaked out by moldy cheese, and both of them have scary stories related to times they got in a car they shouldn’t have. In honor of Halloween, we talk about classic horror movies, break out some October 31 trivia, and discuss what scares Americans most. Also discussed:* Is Jaws a horror movie: a debate!* Nancy’s almost-star turn in said same movie* 2023’s #1 Halloween costume* Alligators in the sewers: real or urban myth?* The movie image that freaked out

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165. Election Break! Trauma Vampires and Serial Killers

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2024/10/28

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“The election is a week from tomorrow, thank God,” says Sarah, speaking for the rest of us, feeling as though we are Danny in The Shining and the candidates are the twins…We take a break from political news (well, kind of) to talk about two recent TV distractions: Anatomy of Lies, a three-part docuseries about the bundle of fraudulence that was Grey’s Anatomy writer Elisabeth Finch, and Woman of the Hour, a

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164. No Courage, No Convictions: Trade Publication...

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2024/10/24

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comLet’s say you want to promote a book and you have a little ad money to burn. If you are author and communications consultant Melanie Notkin, you might contact Shelf Awareness, which sends free newsletters to, per its Instagram bio, “booksellers, librarians, publishers, book collectors, literary antiquarians, and everyone else who loves to read.” Shelf Awareness publisher Matt Balducci was happy to run the promo,

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163. In the Path of the Hurricane: Asheville, Kamala,...

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2024/10/17

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comGreetings from Nancy’s 31st hotel room! Our roving reporter is on the scene in Asheville, North Carolina, where she gives Sarah the scoop on hurricane damage, what the politicized coverage has gotten wrong, and why it’s good to live near churches when catastrophe strikes. The two of them talk Ted Cruz vs. Colin Allred, as well as Kamala Harris vs. Bret Baier. Then it’s on to the New York Times’ latest story on

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162. We Read Melania's Memoir So You Don't Have To

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2024/10/09

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“The path to success may not always be easy, but with determination and courage, you can achieve your dreams.” So writes Melania Trump (or ChatGPT?) on page 34 of the memoir released yesterday by the former first lady. And we have questions! Such as, did any of the Big Five publishers bid on the book? Who wrote Melania’s memoir and has she seen it? Is Donald Trump, as portrayed here, actually made out of

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Dispatch from Ukraine: "The War of Information is...

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2024/09/29

“[The Russians] always claim to free us and to help us. They free us from our houses, schools, hospitals, from our families, from everything. They want to make us completely free, and maybe even from our bodies.” - Oksana HutnykNancy here. It is the 29th of September, 2024, and I'm going to take us back a few years to, February 24th, 2022, the day Russia invaded Ukraine and started a war that is ongoing. We are going to hear from two people in Lviv, Ukraine, and by way of introduction, I'd thought

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Kat Rosenfield: "We're In a Cultural Moment that...

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2024/09/23

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comTo talk or not to talk about this week’s red meat media story? Well, we’re talking. Are we surprised at the appetite that some in media take in shredding one of their own in public? Of course not; it’s the same old boring mob behavior. But what’s really behind it? Professional jealousy? The moronic idea that if you knock a person off her perch, that gets you closer to her gig? And does anyone believe, as a

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Michael Powell and the Permeability Between Worlds

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2024/09/19

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy here. One of the super-cool things about being a journalist is that you can contact people whose work amazes you and say, “Come on my podcast!” and they almost always say, “Sure!”As did Michael Powell, one of my favorite journalists working today, currently at The Atlantic and previously at The New York Times, where, during the height of our national meltdown (aka 2020 to 2022), Michael took on subjects

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158. Helen Lewis on Geniuses, Gurus and Some Regular...

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2024/09/13

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“It’s a Tuesday night in downtown Austin, and Joe Rogan is pretending to jerk off right in front of my face. The strangest thing about this situation is that millions of straight American men would kill to switch places with me.”With that on-fire of a lede, Helen Lewis explores the appeal of the world’s top podcaster and, by extension, the city of Austin, to whence a platoon of self-proclaimed heterodox thinkers

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157. Is "Casual Sex" an Oxymoron?

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2024/09/07

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah talk about a recent story in The Cut, “Was Casual Sex Always This Bad?” (Answer: Probably.) They discuss how subjective the phrase “good sex” is, but for both of them, the playfulness and abandon that makes sex one of life’s great pleasures almost never comes after picking up a stranger at the open-bar wedding reception. (Although Nancy does have that one story.)Also discussed:* Silent discos*

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156. Has the Protest-Industrial Complex Collapsed?

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2024/08/28

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy talks about the protests outside Democratic National Convention, where the expected hordes did NOT show. After ten-plus years of fashionable dissent, have we moved beyond the activism moment? We discuss the limits and rewards of protest: big on catharsis, light on real change.Also on the docket:* Sarah’s birthday bash at Nancy’s* The secret sartorial life of Steve Kornacki* When pink was for boys …* “It’s

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155. Liberal Women Are Miserable, Let's Discuss

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2024/08/16

This week Nancy and Sarah riff on a fascinating essay in UnHerd by David Samuels, “The March of Kamala’s Brides: Miserable young women are the Democrats' foot-soldiers.” The story lays out damning statistics on happiness and liberal women. They’re childless, unmarried, on anti-depressants: Hey, Sarah ticks all the boxes!Nancy and Sarah try to diagnose how we got here. Their discussion covers vibrators and dating apps, Obamacare and social security, politics and the patriarchy, social justice and

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154. What Is a Woman? (Olympics Edition)

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2024/08/04

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah tackle the week’s most controversial Olympics bout, when Algerian boxer Imane Khelif defeated Italian boxer Angela Carini in a 46-second fight. JK Rowling howled! JK Rowling-haters roared back at her! Has anyone ever cared this much about women’s boxing?This actually isn’t a story about trans women in sports — though it kicked up plenty of opinions about that subject — but a more nuanced

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153. Ann Bauer on How School Closures Broke Her, and...

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2024/08/01

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comAnn Bauer is a top-notch personal essay writer, who built a reputation for eloquence and honesty at Salon.com, back in the aughts when the site was still a cultural force. (Sarah was lucky enough to work with Ann back then.) More recently, Ann has become a spitfire on Twitter, where she’s sounded off on COVID-related school closures, the progressive politics of Minneapolis, where she lives, and the various

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152. Childless Cat Ladies, Couch Sex, and Our...

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2024/07/29

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah are back after a brief summer hiatus to talk about: white women for Kamala, “brat” and its aftermath, why Gen Z has so many slang terms for oral sex (or is that just our intern?), and how JD Vance radicalized childless cat ladies and prompted Twitter to make jokes about sex with a couch. America: It’s going great! Note: This episode gets pretty blue, might want to keep it out of the little ones’

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151. YMCA, God's Divine Plan, and the RNC

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2024/07/19

Nancy is in the woods, Sarah is in bed, where she does her best work, when they chat over the phone about the epic spectacle that was this week’s Republican National Convention and the hot mess that is Democratic politics. “God is among us,” Tucker Carlson told the crowd, and the thing is: Nobody can fact-check God. Is it true? Is it false? No one can say. We’re in the realm of belief, and in the days following Trump’s assassination, what’s clear is: People want to believe in him.Also discussed:*

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150. The Biden Apocalypse, Alice Munro's Dark Past

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2024/07/12

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comBiden on the ropes! What’s the over-under on his time in the race? Who might replace him? Sarah and Nancy discuss the political theater of a broken system. What’s the solution? Here’s Nancy: “Let it fucking break, man.” Then, Alice Munro’s daughter reveals family secrets that cast her mother and her writing in a troubling new light.Also discussed:* “Those Australians are so confused”* New word: Parkinsonism* As

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149. America, Fuck Yeah!

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2024/07/03

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe hustle, the friendliness, the informality, the unshakeable faith that we can be anything we want to be — all while drinking Diet Coke and huffing donuts. Fuck yeah, America! In honor of July 4, Nancy and Sarah celebrate our country’s bounty in the long shadow of all that is wrong. (For example: Presidential debate!) Nancy and Sarah can’t quite decide: Is the American experiment over? Or does our scrappy

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