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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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02:22:47

World's Strongest Man and Heart

Refin" It Up ·

2024/09/11

The Worlds Strongest Man, Mark Henry joins us this week to talk shop with Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas. Mark talks about everything from Sexual Chocolate to the Olympics and to all his accolades inside and outside the ring. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG:

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01:22:44

Ask The Refs Anything

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2024/09/04

We have an all ref episode of Refin It Up this week. TNA Referee Daniel Spencer fills in for RJ and joins two of the greatest pro wrestling referees of all time, Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas. The dynamic trio talks about the week that was in the world of wrestling and answers all your questions. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy

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01:39:42

The Waredrobe That Makes The Business

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2024/08/28

You have seen some of his gear designs across the wrestling landscape; this week we welcome Rodney Caldwell to the show. It is true that in wresting it is sometimes about who you know. Rodney talks about getting involved with the independent wrestling scene on the west coast, which led him to meeting some influential people that pointed him in the right direction. All that led himself to JD Hoop and Sandra Gray to start designing gear for some of the big names in all the major promotions. He

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01:58:05

Jacques Rougeau "Ruggedly Handsome"

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2024/08/21

He’s handsome, He’s brave, He’s strong; he is Jacques Rougeau. He is also known for being a former WWE Intercontinental and Tag Team Champion. Jacques talks about his time tagging with his brother as well as PCO. Additionally, he talks about the great feud with “Big Bossman” and their epic match at Summer Slam 1991. Jacques talks about his real life scuffle with Dynamite Kid. Lastly, he goes into detail about woking with Hulk Hogan in Montreal and defeating him. All this and so much more this

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01:42:53

It's Veda Time

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2024/08/14

This week we welcome in somebody that has literally done it all in the wrestling business from training as an ending talent to commentary to backstage work. Veda Scott has done a lot in professional wrestling. She joins us this week to talk about the women’s revolution in professional wrestling as well as a one night only knockouts knock down pay-per-view in TNA where she had the honor of working with Gail Kim. Going from coast to coast doing commentary can be difficult at times, but also learning

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01:24:50

The Kelly Element of Wrestling

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2024/08/07

This week former WWE/NJPW/ROH announcer Kevin Kelly is the toast of the town. When he got into the WWE in 1996 it only took him four months to go from a backstage interviewer to announcing RAW with Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler. Kevin has been the main announcer wherever he went outside of one place. We will talk all about his time in the wrestling business and beyond on this weeks episode. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social

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01:47:10

Talking Shop with Penzer

Refin" It Up ·

2024/07/31

This week David Penzer returns to the show and many things change since he has been on. David talks about his new book that is out now, “Sitting Ringside.” The book has taken you through getting into the business and then becoming the lead ring announcer for WCW. David goes into detail about meeting with Jim Ross about going over to WWE when WCW closed in 2001. All this and many more great stories as we talk shop with David Penzer. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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02:05:08

NWA's Own & COO Joe Galli

Refin" It Up ·

2024/07/25

Being at a promotion from the beginning is key and our guest this week did just that. Joe Galli started with the NWA at the early stages after Billy Corgan bought the promotion. While at Championship Wrestling From Hollywood Billy approached Joe about being the voice of the NWA. This was something that Joe couldn’t say no to; and continues to be the voice of the NWA to this day. Joe also has taken on the role of Chief Operating Officer. He has worked very hard to make sure everyone can see the

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01:59:50

Behind The Scenes Of The Writer in WWE

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2024/07/17

The best hand in the business joins the show this week as we welcome former WWE Creative Director Tommy Blacha to the show. After leaving the Conan O’Brien Show in 1999 Tommy made his way to the then WWF. As one of the top writers with the company at that time he was responsible for a number of memorable stories in WWF; including the Mark Henry and Mae Young story. Tommy goes into depth on other stories he either came up with or had a hand in creating. Lastly, Tommy remembers the times working

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02:23:21

Let's Talk To The Coach

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2024/07/10

It’s time to bring one of the most recognizable faces in WWE history and a man that has done so much in wrestling and beyond. This week we bring in Jonathan Coachman to Refin It Up. From 1999-2008 Coach was a part of the WWE and had some of the greatest backstage segments with the likes of The Rock and so many more top talent in the WWE. After leaving WWE Coach found his way over the ESPN and excelled with the leader in sports. Golf has been a big part of Coach’s career at ESPN and has began to

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01:45:27

Wearing the Stwipes-Ref Fit

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2024/07/03

You can be physically fit or mentally fit but this week we are REF FIT with our guest, NWA Referee Jarrod Fritz. Being trained by some great wrestlers got Jarrod in shape to make his in ring debut as a wrestler and then transitioned into being one of the best referees today in wrestling. Brian and Jarrod met young into Jarrod’s career and quickly became a mentor for Jarrod. Working the right way in the ring is crucial for a referee and Jarrod goes above and beyond to make sure his work is the

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01:31:32

Bollywood to Hollywood

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2024/06/27

Harv and Gurv, The Bollywood Boys have seen alot in the business over the last decade wrestling. We welcome them to the show this week to talk about their time in WWE and some of the people that helped them out in and outside the ring. Growing up in Vancouver they had two loves professional wrestling and the Vancouver Canucks. Harv and Gurv talk about their fandom for the Canucks and wrestling growing up. Lastly, we all talk about the locker room leaders when the Bollywood Boys came in and as

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01:57:56

Wrestling's Band: Downstait

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2024/06/19

This week we have adrenaline in our soul as we welcome the very talented band Downstait. Being together as a band since the early 2000s Downstait has become one of the most recognizable bands to produce some of the best wrestling themes of all time. They set their goals high and have accomplished some of them but have a few that they still want to accomplish. When Cody Rhodes left AEW to go to WWE there was many hoops to jump through to make sure Cody brought “Kingdom” with him to the company.

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02:01:57

The Bees Nest w/ B Brian Blair

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2024/06/12

This week we are busy bringing in one half of the “Killer Bees” B Brian Blair to the show. Brians mind for the business is still as sharp as it has ever been as he talks about some of the best times he had in the business. Working for two different McMahons had some clear differences but also had some similarities as Brian talks about that as well as his relationship with Hulk Hogan and working with some of the best in the business. All this and so much more!!!

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02:06:43

The Living Angel of Wrestling

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2024/06/05

It’s time to get Fabulous this week as we welcome one half of the Fabulous Rougeau’s, Raymond Rougeau to the show. Growing up in the business training with his brother and father was tough enough as it was; but starting at such a young age was difficult as well. Going up against men at the age of 16 was a daunting task he encountered where ever he went. Starting in Quebec his ultimate goal was to make it to the WWF and really showcase his great ability. When he retired at the age of 34 alot of

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01:53:45

Wrestling Lessons From Les Thatcher

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2024/05/29

Les Thatcher has been in wresting for 64 years; and this week he brings all his knowledge to the show. Les talks about what the art of wresting and what it is lacking in some promotions and excelling in others. Les got alot of his knowledge about wrestling from working with guys like Harley Race, Pat Patterson, and Gerald Brisco. Lastly, Les speaks on when he got smartened up to the business but at the same time didn’t really get smartened up to the business. All this and so much more on our

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02:14:42

TV Insights with Steve Argintaru

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2024/05/22

While working five Olympics and numerous Wrestle Manias our guest this week Steve Argintaru has seen and done a lot . Being at TSN for over 26 years put Steve on the map as one of the best in the business and opened many doors for him. Currently Steve is doing some great work for two of the big independent promotions in the Toronto area; Greektown and SMASH wrestling. Alot of great conversations were had and so much more; you must listen to find out!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and

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01:56:37

Moore Motivation

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2024/05/16

Through good times and bad there was always wrestling for Shannon Moore. This week Shannon talks about growing up in North Carolina being a huge wrestling fan; alongside many great wrestlers that would eventually make it to some of the biggest companies in wrestling. Every story has its ups and downs; while Shannon talks about making it to WCW and eventually WWE he also speaks some of the demons he endured and has since overcame. Finally, he talks about coming up with Matt and Jeff Hardy and the

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00:52:29

Card Subject To Change

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2024/05/09

Due to unfortunate circumstances this week Dvon is out and JK and the Sunshine Band is in. STAY TUNED FOR UPDATES!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5

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01:39:15

Time To Go Camping with Matt

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2024/05/01

It’s time to go camping this week as we bust open another great episode with, Matt Camp. Matt has been a sponge in not only the wrestling business but in every field he has been in. As the Fantasy Guru to working backstage at TNA to working in WWE and hosting “The Bump” Matt has done a lot in his career. Currently Matt is hosting back on Busted Open and has a few easter eggs for you all as far as what he has coming up in the future. All this and a lot more this week Refin It Up Social

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