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The Trial

The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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42:03

2: They Were Failed

The Trial ·

2025/01/21

Today Caroline and Liz start to discuss the fallout from the horrific attack on children in Southport. How Axel Rudakubama was able to murder and attack children when school, the police, social services, mental health workers and even the Government’s Prevent Programme knew about his obsession with violence. Among others asking questions today is the Prime Minister Keir Starmer who said what Axel Rudakubama did that day was terrorism. We’ll bring you his words.Caroline and Liz also chat to

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25:32

1: The Dance School Murders

The Trial ·

2025/01/20

Axel Rudakubana has admitted carrying out the attacks on a Southport dance school which claimed the lives of three little girls. Six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar were killed when he went on the rampage with a kitchen knife, as they and other children made friendship bracelets. Today as the families of the girls braced themselves for a trial, he changed his pleas to guilty. Caroline and Liz will outline what we now know about what

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3:09

The Trial: The Southport Dance School

The Trial ·

2025/01/17

Last summer, like thousands of children during the school holidays, three little girls in Southport in the North of England joined their friends to attend a dance school.But six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar never came home. They were brutally attacked when a knifeman went on the rampage. Many others were stabbed and injured that day but Bebe, Elsie and Alice lost their lives. The man accused of their murders is 18 year old Axel

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31:45

Daniel Khalife: The Art of Spying

The Trial ·

2024/11/29

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you an exclusive interview with a former military intelligence officer who appeared as an expert witness in the trial of Daniel Khalife. Dr Frank Ledwidge has years of experience working in human intelligence and has detailed knowledge of the Iranian intelligence apparatus that Daniel Khalife has now been convicted of assisting while he was a serving soldier.Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy Editor: Chelsey Moore Creative Director: Caroline

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48:15

Daniel Khalife: Guilty

The Trial ·

2024/11/28

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdicts in the trial of Daniel Khalife after he was found guilty of spying for Iran and gathering the personal details of soldiers, but not guilty of perpetrating a bomb hoax. The episode features an exclusive interview with Commander Dominic Murphy of the Metropolitan Police about Daniel Khalife's audacious escape from prison and the investigation into his espionage. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy Editor: Chelsey Moore Creative

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26:04

Daniel Khalife: 'Scooby Doo'

The Trial ·

2024/11/21

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speeches of the prosecution and defence, as the jury in the trial of Daniel Khalife retired to consider their verdicts. Prosecutor Mark Heywood KC claimed Daniel Khalife endangered national security with his one-man spying mission, but Gul Nawaz Hussain KC, for the defence, told jurors that the only person he hurt was himself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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32:53

Daniel Khalife: ‘I thought I was James Bond’

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2024/11/19

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the end of Daniel Khalife’s cross-examination by the prosecution in which he strenuously denied that he wanted help from agents of Iran after he escaped from prison. The episode also features the evidence of a defence expert who said the supposedly sensitive documents Daniel Khalife had been passing to the Iranians would have been effectively useless to them.Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy Editor: Chelsey Moore Creative Director: Caroline

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6:50

Daniel Khalife: Trial Update

The Trial ·

2024/11/15

A quick Trial Update from Caroline and Jack after Daniel Khalife's three days in the witness box. These short bonus episodes won't replace our usual longer episodes which will drop into your feeds as usual, they're just bite-sized updates from court. In this one Daniel Khalife says during his time as a "double agent" he was acting like a mad man at times - thinking he could be James Bond. He also denies that the Iranians had anything to do with his prison break. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham

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28:29

Daniel Khalife: ‘I’m guilty’

The Trial ·

2024/11/13

In this episode Caroline and Jack have the moment Daniel Khalife changed his plea to Guilty and admitted escaping from Wandsworth Prison strapped under a food delivery van. He was cross examined in the witness box by the prosecutor Mark Heywood about the spying charges he still denies. He said he was a patriot and did not deserve to be sent to Belmarsh Prison. He admitted he had made mistakes, and he had told lies but he wasn't a terrorist. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us

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31:11

Daniel Khalife: 'Not the Crime of the Century'

The Trial ·

2024/11/05

In this episode Caroline and Jack have Daniel Khalife's evidence about why he escaped from Wandsworth Prison - he said it was so he would be classified as a high-risk prisoner and better protected from some of the most serious offenders. During his evidence to the jury at Woolwich Crown Court he said he used kitchen trousers which he clipped to the underside of a food delivery lorry to create an escape sling. He was then on the run for three days. He also said he tried on several occasions to

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25:46

Daniel Khalife: Wild Goose Chase

The Trial ·

2024/10/31

Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court as Daniel Khalife himself takes to the stand.In this episode we bring you Khalife’s testimony. We hear about his parents, his upbringing, the reasons he joined the military and the justification for some of his actions that brought him to court. We hear how he used Wikileaks and the CIA website to create fake documents to pass to Iranian agents. Daniel Khalife claims this was to further Britain’s national

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33:09

Daniel Khalife: The Escape

The Trial ·

2024/10/25

Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court in The Trial of Daniel Khalife.In this episode we bring you the details of Khalife’s alleged escape. We hear how he clung to the bottom of a food lorry which prison guards allowed to leave HMP Wandsworth despite knowing a prisoner was missing. The man-hunt that ensued was one of the most high-profile and expansive in recent history. In police interviews, Khalife expresses his fears he has ‘pissed off’ the

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30:37

Officer Blake: What Now?

The Trial ·

2024/10/23

In light of the Not Guilty verdict for firearms officer Martyn Blake, join us forthe final episode of this series as we discuss the fallout of this landmark case. This includes today's announcement from the Home Secretary that there will now be a presumption of anonymity for all firearms officers facing trial over shooting in the course of duty up to the point of conviction. Mark Williams, Chief Executive of the Police Firearms Officers Association talks to Caroline and George about how important

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29:40

Officer Blake: Gangster

The Trial ·

2024/10/23

The jury have returned a Not Guilty verdict for firearms officer Martyn Blake. But what of Chris Kaba, the man he shot? In this episode we delve into the 24 year old’s criminal past which we weren't allowed to report during the trial. Kaba was a member of one of South London’s most notorious and dangerous county lines drug gangs. His convictions date to when he was just 13 years old. Had he not died from the bullet fired by Martyn Blake he would have been standing trial for attempted murder himself

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32:07

Officer Blake: Not Guilty

The Trial ·

2024/10/21

Sgt Martyn Blake of the Metropolitan Police has been found Not Guilty of the murder of Chris Kaba. Join Caroline Cheetham and George Odling with the very latest from The Old Bailey as the jury reach their verdict in this historic case. In September of 2022, a 24 year old was shot through his car windscreen by a Metropolitan Police firearms officer. Chris Kaba died in hospital that night and Martyn Blake was put on trial for his murder. The CPS’s decision to prosecute led to over 300 officers

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34:58

Daniel Khalife: “They let a teenager fool them”

The Trial ·

2024/10/21

Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court in The Trial of Daniel Khalife. In this episode we bring you the most comprehensive account that Daniel Khalife has provided for his actions so far. He explains his plans to mount his own intelligence operation after being told his Iranian heritage would be a barrier to him ever obtaining the security clearance needed for his dream army roles. We also hear more about the kinds of documents he is accused of

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28:30

Officer Blake: "He's not RoboCop"

The Trial ·

2024/10/18

Join Caroline Cheetham and George Odling bringing you the very latest from The Trial of Officer Blake as it nears its conclusion. In this episode we hear the words Martyn Blake used to describe the chaotic events leading up to the gunshot that caused Chris Kaba's death. He answers questions on whether his intention was to kill and whether he was aware of this as a possible outcome. We then bring you the key moments from the closing statements made by the prosecution and defence barristers, Tom

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27:05

Daniel Khalife: 'Wiffle Waffle'

The Trial ·

2024/10/15

Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from The Trial of Daniel Khalife at Woolwich Crown Court.In this episode we hear how Daniel Khalife was advised his bright prospects on his army unit would be restricted by his Iranian heritage. We bring you the voicenotes he exchanged with his so-called Iranian handlers and discuss his multiple attempts at communications with MI5 and MI6 shortly before his arrest in 2022. Welcome to Episode 3: 'Wiffle Waffle' Follow us on

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29:00

Officer Blake: 'Why I Pulled the Trigger'

The Trial ·

2024/10/14

Caroline Cheetham and George Odling are back with the very latest from The Trial of Officer Blake. In September of 2022, a 24-year-old, father-to-be, was shot through his car windscreen by a Metropolitan Police firearms officer. Chris Kaba died in hospital that night and Martyn Blake now stands trial for murder. The CPS’s decision to prosecute led to over 300 officers handing in their gun permits. In this episode we hear the words of Martyn Blake as he takes to the stand and defends his decision

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31:28

Daniel Khalife: The 'Triple Agent'

The Trial ·

2024/10/10

Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court in The Trial of Daniel Khalife. In this episode we hear about the moment Daniel Khalife allegedly strapped himself to the underside of a food truck to break out of prison. The prosecution continue their arguments that he was actively engaged in securing confidential information and supplying this to Iran, an ‘enemy state’. We learn more about Khalife’s ambitions to work in military intelligence, his

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