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Held in Motion

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Held in Motion: Breaking boxes, blurring lines, & imagining the possibilities. These recordings are my sense-making explorations of humans & their systems. Think, the multidimensional intersections of things like science, tech, psychology, sociology, language, the practice of philosophy, etc. No expertise, here. Just a curious mind that thrives on wrestling with the complex whys, because anything else isn"t nearly as fun. If this sounds interesting, welcome! Hear something you"d like to chat

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4:59

Remembering we ARE animals… #PlumbingViolentDelights

Held in Motion ·

2024/12/13

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "And when people are already uneasy and afraid and concerned, then it's easy to latch onto the inflammatory idea rather than digging for knowledge or leaning into the knowledge that contradicts the narrative that fits how we're feeling, right? And then you look at an aspect of human behavior where certain things will cause a relief of tension. So, for example, comedic relief, right?"

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4:58

If violence is not inherently bad, what's my problem?...

Held in Motion ·

2024/12/10

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "Or maybe it's not just an illusion. There are times when vengeance seems to be. When people do violent acts as well. And in some cases, that's approved of, and in some cases it's not. And I think also when you think about activism, there's. There's a whole bunch of other steps that can be done before reaching the point of violence. But when some. When things have not worked up to that point, it's almost a last resort. Right."

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4:59

Philosophically exploring the topic of violence, a...

Held in Motion ·

2024/12/09

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "So then I think if that's the case, then realistically I am having unrealistic expectations, hopes for human behavior with respect to violence. That is from a perspective that's on the outside of the bell curve, right? If other humans do exist like me, then maybe I'm an outlier and I'm trying to see the rest of the world and other humans through a lens that just does not apply to them. And on the flip side, their lens doesn't necessarily apply to me."

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4:59

Asking him to be the "good guy", is asking him to...

Held in Motion ·

2024/12/01

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "I mean, how many times have we heard people say in real life, let alone in movies and television, don't cry like a girl, don't hit like a girl, don't run like a girl, et cetera, et cetera, and telling a man that for him to be a man is to not be a woman. But then the way that this manifests is far more. So."

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4:59

What if... blurring the edges brings clarity?

Held in Motion ·

2024/11/23

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "But I was thinking about all of the nuances that are involved with the different auroras and the colors and the intensities of what if instead of it simply being temperature, density, humidity, that have to do with like how cloud formation happens. What if there's an additional component in the mammothous clouds that has to do with the type of molecule, or even not just molecule, but type of particulate, because clouds are forming around particulates."

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5:00

Cognitive empathy; "what's in it for me?"

Held in Motion ·

2024/11/18

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "Or the way that someone will start laughing, and then you hear somebody else start laughing and you don't even know what's so funny, but then you find yourself laughing. It's sort of contagious, right? It's. It's a part of your genetic makeup, so to speak. But cognitive empathy is something that we have to teach children of. What would it feel like if you had your toy stolen or if you were hit, right?"

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4:55

Values then identity or identity then values; it...

Held in Motion ·

2024/11/07

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "And this is bizarre to me, because when that happens, it's not the values that are firm, it's the identity. And so that means that you can be a Republican or a Democrat, you're lifelong. But because those groups, those labels, mean different things through time, that means that whether you like it or not, if you're aligning with that identity and your identity comes first, then your actuality, your values are changing. And so then I'm thinking, what is?"

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4:56

Broken systems: when capitalism is interwoven with...

Held in Motion ·

2024/11/01

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "So I actually got to see this firsthand today and it kind of blew my mind. I went into a room on Clubhouse with people I've never talked with before and it was on sustainable leadership. And the men were talking about things from a very, I'll say, abstract way. They're talking about systems and economics and numbers."

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5:00

Competitive homogenization; the way of the future.

Held in Motion ·

2024/10/31

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "And we make individually, we make decisions based on what we want most or what will benefit us most, or which in group we want to be a part of, etc. But throw a bit of technology in there and suddenly we have another animal. I was reading an article the other day where a gentleman was talking about the very near Future, as in 2025, or in some cases 2026."

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4:59

The science of trees 🤝 healthy human relating.

Held in Motion ·

2024/10/25

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with these per se, but I think there's a beautiful understanding with respect to seeing relationships as seasonal. Sometimes someone comes into our life temporarily and they go again, and maybe they come back, or we go and we come back, or maybe we don't. But while we were in relation to one another, there's something beautiful there."

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4:58

"4 strikes, you're out!" How deeply entrenched...

Held in Motion ·

2024/10/25

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "I married the son of a preacher man, the whole nine. So this is not at all foreign to me. Just the where it is today of labels and boxes and hierarchies playing such a pivotal role in being able to have any sort of dialogue around belief and non belief or scripture. And to hold up scripture as some paragon, but then to brush it aside when someone does come to you with receipts around what's in scripture. It was really surreal."

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4:52

"Parents are superior." • When reality plows into the...

Held in Motion ·

2024/10/13

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "Like, I'm using that very clinical language because it really is about those who happen to result in a child, right? It's not. It's not talking about all adults who can do the act of sex. It's those who procreated and actually had a child. And not to mention all of the people who want to have kids and can't, right? Let alone anyone who doesn't want to have kids."

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5:00

Responsibility: on the receiving end of people...

Held in Motion ·

2024/10/01

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "In fact, recently I found a situation where I had complexified whatever new way of interacting I had created for myself and then suddenly realized after a period of time that maybe I had just prettied up, you know, made it all lovely with window dressing, people pleasing, but had called it something else."

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1:25

🏆 "The Ugliest Selfie of Them All" 🏆

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/29

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "Okay, I invite you, implore you, dare you, to create the ugliest selfie you can by modifying lighting wrong angles, all of the things that you may have heard about doing a quote unquote good selfie, like flip them on their heads, come up with the ugliest selfie you can, and post it here and and then if you are coming back, then please heart the ones that you think are the ugliest ones and you can hurt multiples."

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5:00

Angry Rant: "Not all men." 🙄🤬🤮 I don't want to hear...

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/27

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "At the same time, there are so many problems that are coming out of this one. You can't have transparent, upfront conversations about these things because it makes the men feel more defensive and makes them feel, quote unquote, attacked. And so then what's required is for us women to continue doing what it is we're trying to raise awareness of is that invisible labor, the caretaking and, you know, making the adding the sugar so the medicine goes down in order

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4:58

AI & Humans: Who do we want to be? (Part 3/3)

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/22

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "We have language and concepts, framings around what empathy looks like between one individual and another individual. You can find information about affective and cognitive empathy and what these things are. But as we have introduced more and more technology, we are creating different scenarios that we don't have language and framings for yet."

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4:58

Could this idea now be SOMEWHAT antiquated? 🤔 • "I...

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/20

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "You know, we've lost all concepts of privacy, and it's almost frowned upon if you decide that you're not going to share something or share it in a very vulnerable way, because then you're trying to be aloof or withdrawn when we've lost the concepts and the importance of privacy and boundaries."

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5:00

The interwoven evolution of AI & humans: matrices...

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/15

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "So I'm going to pick up where I left off. If you're just joining us, this is part two of maybe three. There's a link to part one below. So what are we supposed to take away from an AI result that it's given to us?"

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4:58

AI: The puppeteers, the marionette, & the interactive...

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/14

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "And like trying to decipher when an answer is given, what influence is this answer trying to shape me and as a user, or perceptions that I have, or my thinking? Or is this the coders trying to constrain define the AI? Or is this some embodiment we want to say that the AI has taken on as an identity of some kind. And just like the levels of thinking in poker, there comes a point when this ceases to serve any sort of utility, right?"

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4:58

Autistic meltdown; a more debilitating side to my...

Held in Motion ·

2024/09/10

Click here to reply to @SeekingPlumb "And so choosing to go into an environment that is going to be so overwhelming in so many different ways is not just a momentary experience. It's something I would have to choose and have an impact on me for days and sometimes weeks to come. The burbling tea kettle hit its boiling point, and this is the barest glimpse into the more debilitating side of autism for me."

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