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The Next Shift Podcast

This is a podcast dedicated to serving current and former law enforcement, by sharing the stories of my own personal transition out of law enforcement, lessons learned through the transition and since, as well as the stories of officers who’ve also transitioned out, their significant others to gain that perspective, and resources for embracing their Next Shift.It is MY mission to help YOU remember who you are/were behind the badge by helping you REdiscover your identity, REdefine your purpose, and

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84:36

Retirement feels like free falling w/Dan Murphy

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/11/19

Send us a text This week's episode is a conversation with Dan Murphy, a retired LEO out of NYPD, turned business owner and co-host of the incredible podcast, Gold Shields. One of the things that I love about this conversation is that it isn't about a RECENT retirement and that is important, because the number of messages I get every single week from those who retired YEARS ago...thanking me for this podcast and bringing awareness to life after law enforcement...are plentiful. This goes ...

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52:43

Therapy is a COLLABORATIVE process w/Dr. Brooke Bartlett

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2025/11/12

Send us a text This week's episode is an incredible conversation with Dr. Brooke Bartlett, a military and public safety Psychologist, as well as a nationwide speaker, trainer, consultant. On a more personal level, she is a lover of dogs, heavy metal, sports, and anything outdoors...so JUST LIKE "US." In this episode, Dr. Bartlett talks about how she got involved in this work and the steps she's taken to become certified and culturally competent in the military and first responder ...

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84:37

From cop to public safety consultant

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/11/05

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with one of my favorite people I've met on LinkedIn, Tim Kucerovy. Not only does he boldly challenge the status quo...he is proof that you do NOT have to retire from LE in order to consult with LE agencies. There is value in YOUR experience, in and out of LE that can serve these agencies. Tim started his LE career as a Park Ranger in Alaska, then transitioned to State HighwayPatrol in Montana, then transitioned into Higher Education, and is n...

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43:38

Don't wait for life AFTER law enforcement to have a...

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2025/10/29

Send us a text This week's episode is a solo episode and full of some gut punches that have been circling in my mind lately, starting with the title of this episode. You do NOT have to wait until life AFTER law enforcement to have a life OUTSIDE of law enforcement. In fact, I encourage you not to wait! Your career can end tomorrow and if it does, you're going to struggle significantly if you haven't taken the time to build a life outside the job. (ask me how I know) One mindset that scr...

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66:04

Retired...for 3 days, then back at it with RENEWED...

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2025/10/22

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Chris Perry...a cop's kid, who served for 31 years himself, retired, and started at a new PD with a RENEWED sense of purpose...in a non-traditional role that is changing lives! Chris served a majority of his career with the Cincinnati Police Department and spent time on patrol, the motorcycle unit, narcotics, traffic unit, and the wellness unit. In 2020, he was diagnosed with PTSD and began speaking about it. He talked about what led to the di...

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99:45

COPLINE as LIFELINE w/Founder Stephanie Samuels

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2025/10/15

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Stephanie Samuels, the Founder of COPLINE. Just an FYI...there were some technical difficulties throughout, where the Zoom dropped and there will be a few moments of silence. Stephanie is a Psychotherapist who has worked exclusively with cops since the 1990s and is part of a National research team looking into the role concussions play in the mental health of LEOS, as well as the potential connection to suicide. I was BLOWN AWAY by Stephanie a...

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79:18

From surviving to thriving w/John Kelly

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/10/08

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with my guy, John Kelly (aka The Law Enforcement Life Coach on social media). John is a Marine Corps veteran and a retired LEO. After 30 years on the job, John turned his experience into resources for those following after him. He is now an author, trainer, podcast host, and National keynote speaker. I've been connected with John for a few years now and was on his podcast a couple of years ago. I just finally got to meet him in person at the Wounde...

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Season 4: What to expect

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/10/01

Send us a text We are BACK! Thank you so much for being here, I look forward to serving YOU with this new season of the Next Shift Podcast. We have an incredible lineup of guests who have made the transition out of law enforcement, some who've transitioned...then gone back in with fresh perspective, awareness, and purpose...and several clinicians/resources. These stories serve as HOPE for a future outside of law enforcement...something many of us did not know existed. ...

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48:57

Season 3 RECAP

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/05/28

Send us a text I CANNOT believe we are wrapping up another season of the Next Shift Podcast! If you had told me in June 2023 that I'd have 3 seasons of a podcast by June 2025...I would not have believed you...but here we are! A HUGE shoutout to all of the incredible guests who have shared their real, raw vulnerable stories on the podcast...giving hope to others, that there is indeed life after law enforcement. This show would NOT be what it is without these guests and without YOU listen...

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23:43

An emotional Police Week reflection

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/05/21

Send us a text This week's episode is an emotional reflection of my very first Police Week. In case you missed it, I was able to and honored to attend Police Week, as a partner with T-Priority (T-Mobile's First Responder Solution). It was an incredible week talking with survivors, sharing stories, and honoring our fallen...including my husband and I's friend, Cody...who was killed in the line of duty February 29, 2024. Once I got home, I had to take a couple of days to let it all sink i...

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57:50

The story not often told - the transition of a...

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2025/05/07

Send us a text This week's episode is a little different, in that it is not an interview with a retired LEO, but a retired LE civilian employee, who spent over 26 years serving his department and community with pride. Roland Clee spent over 26 years in Law Enforcement, as a Community Services Officer in Florida, is the founder of Command Staff Consulting, and Founder/Author of the American Peace Officer Newsletter. Roland's story is a testament to the importance civilian roles play in t...

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55:55

31 years in LE and the struggle to find a second career

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2025/04/30

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with retired Patrol Captain, Chris Haynes, who served 31 years with the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office. Chris was inspired to become a cop at just 5 or 6 years old, when his uncle would stop by his grandma's house to eat while on duty. After high school, Chris went to college and at just 21 years old, joined the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office. Chris spent time on Patrol, as a Narcotics Investigator, Interdiction Sergeant, promoted to Lieute...

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62:57

"You'll know when it's time to go."

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/04/23

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Lou Forst, a retired Lieutenant from Newark PD in New Jersey. Lou discusses being born and raised in New Jersey, then spending his entire policing career at Newark PD, in various units like patrol, Vice, Narcotics, Gang, Sergeant on Patrol, IA, and the academy. From 2010 to 2014, Newark had NO new hires, but from 2014-2019 they hired 485 new officers. Lou was a large part of that hiring craze and at the end of it, his boss told him...

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41:36

From LEO to Entrepreneur w/Rob Hollingsworth

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/04/16

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Rob Hollingsworth, one of the very first people I sat down with on an Instagram LIVE, to chat about his transition out of Law Enforcement in March 2023. A LOT has happened since that first chat, so we sat down to record an actual podcast episode. Rob is a Navy Veteran and prior LEO turned entrepreneur, who's also a husband and father to three littles. Rob spent a majority of his four years with the Navy deployed overseas and shortl...

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56:32

A near fatal crash & the battle for medical...

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2025/04/09

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Katie Robert's, a LEOW who received a call no law enforcement spouse wants to receive and has spent the past few years fighting for her husband to not only get the care he deserves after a near fatal crash on duty, but for his disability to be approved. Contrary to what so many think...just because the medical retirement has gone through...the fight is NOT over. This is a video of the crash her husband, Jeremy, was in on his department motorcy...

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22:56

If you are SERIOUS about transitioning out of Law...

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/04/02

Send us a text In this week's episode, I share 3 things you must have/do if you are serious about transitioning out of law enforcement and they are based on the NUMEROUS conversations I have each week, with people telling me they are looking to transition and want to know what to do. First things first...I can't answer that, ONLY you can...BUT I will have some questions for you to help you gain some clarity. The first two questions I ask almost every single person who reaches out with a gener...

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61:23

An unexpected ending: Lessons learned from an Air...

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/03/26

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with John Benjamin Jones. John is a retired Senior Air Marshal and former US Navy combat veteran...as well as the author of A Higher Calling: A biblical guide for first responders, military, and veterans and co-author of the undergraduate textbook, The Fundamentals of Security Management: A Common Sense Approach. John spent almost 30 years in public service and now uses his experiences to be an advocate for first responders and veterans. John...

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28:40

Reflections of a prior LEO: Finding yourself after...

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/03/19

Send us a text The reflection every cop needs: Identity, Purpose & What’s Next Turning 40 has a way of making you reflect, and in this episode, I’m taking you through my own journey—19 years in and around law enforcement, losing my career at 10 years in due to injury, and spending two years in a dark place before finally figuring out who I was beyond the job...and still figuring it out! If you’ve ever felt lost, stuck, or unsure of what’s next, this episode is for you. I’ll walk you throu...

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67:17

Embracing the NEW version of yourself in life after LE

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/03/12

Send us a text This week's episode is a conversation with Paul Collette, a retired US Probation Officer and Veteran Navy Reservist, who started his career at NYPD and is now an Addiction Recovery Expert. Paul is also a consultant and instructor on sensitive national policy and high risk investigations. Paul shares what it was like to get into NYPD in the early 90s and why he decided to move to to Federal law enforcement, with US Probation. He became a "Sex Offender Specialist" and it ev...

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30:02

Next Shift Academy - What you need to know

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/03/05

Send us a text This week's episode is a crash course on all things Next Shift Academy. I don't know how I JUST realized I've never broken it down, anywhere other than social media...which may not be seen by more than 10% of my network, EVER...and those on my e-mail list get occasional e-mails about it, so I figured I would break it down here. When I first started doing market research for Next Shift...one of the most common answers to "what would have made the transition easier" a...

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