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Kinda Different: Innovation, Connection, and Making Dental Care More Human

Kinda Different is a short podcast from the people at DifferentKind (differentkind.com). We chat with dental industry leaders, clinical providers, and patients to discuss innovation in dentistry, connect with our fascinating guests on a personal level, and explore how together we can make dental care more human.

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00:23:03

From Silos to Shared Goals: Payment Reform and...

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2025/10/30

In the newest Kinda Different episode, Matt sits down with Caroline McLeod, Value-Based Solutions Manager at CareQuest Institute and practicing dental hygienist, to unpack what it really takes to move medical-dental integration from idea to execution. They explore tech barriers, incentive design, and what CareQuest has learned running the MORE Care framework in multiple states. Caroline shares a practical view of shared goals, why some pilots stall, and one question every clinician can use to make

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00:28:03

Prevention is a Promise: How Apex Rewires Care,...

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2025/10/15

Kinda Different returns with another candid, practical conversation about shifting from “watch and wait” to proactive prevention, using AI and visual tools to make conditions clear, and leading culture change that makes dental care more human for patients and teams.What we cover▸Why “primary care provider of the oral cavity” is more than a tagline▸Moving from restorative-first to prevention-first across caries and perio▸Using AI and dental health scans to replace persuasion with understanding▸Shared

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00:30:47

Value-Based Care Without the Buzzwords: Practical...

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2025/10/09

Kinda Different is back with a practical conversation with Caitlin Walsdorf from Healthscape Advisors about where dental innovation is really happening, why “value-based care” fatigue is real, and how rebuilding trust across payers, providers, employers, and patients opens the path to better benefits and better health.What we cover▸ The state of dental benefits and why oral health is finally getting real attention▸ Concrete innovations making a dent: diagnostics, smart devices, saliva and microbiome

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00:35:47

Closing the Trust Gap in Dentistry: Why 51% of...

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2025/10/02

In this conversation, Matt Allen and Dr. Cory Scheer discuss the critical role of trust in organizations, particularly in healthcare and dental care. They explore the structure of trust, its components, and how it can be measured and maximized. Cory shares insights from his experience as a raft guide and how those lessons apply to leadership and organizational culture. The discussion also highlights the importance of trust in recruitment and retention, especially among younger employees, and how

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00:27:58

Why Patient-Centered Wins: Data Integrity, Access,...

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2025/09/18

In this episode of Kinda Different, Dr. Matt Allen interviews Jessica Fowler, a dynamic figure in the dental industry who bridges the gap between clinical practice and technology. They discuss the importance of patient-centered care, the role of innovation in dentistry, and the significance of mindfulness in professional life. Jessica shares her journey from being a dental hygienist to working in dental SaaS, emphasizing the need for data integrity and the human aspect of healthcare. The

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00:27:59

People Before Product: Making Dental Tech Work with...

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2025/09/11

In this episode of Kind of Different, Dr. Matt Allen engages in a deep conversation with Matt McGaw, founder of DSO Compass, about the intersection of innovation and dental care. They explore McGaw's journey in healthcare, the role of AI in dental practices, and the importance of creating human connections in patient care. McGaw shares personal reflections on his mother's legacy and how it motivates him in his career. The discussion emphasizes the need for change management in adopting new

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00:31:35

Revolutionizing Dentistry: The Non-Invasive Approach...

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2025/09/03

In this episode of Kinda Different, Dr. Matt Allen welcomes Dr. Jeremy Horst Keeper, a pioneer in non-invasive dental care. They discuss the innovative approaches to dentistry that prioritize patient comfort and health, including the use of silver diamine fluoride and other non-invasive treatments. The conversation explores how constraints can drive innovation, the importance of listening to patients, and the need for a more human-centered approach to healthcare. Dr. Keeper shares insights from his

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00:31:00

🧠 Mind Flossing for Dental Professionals with Dr....

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2024/12/19

🧠 The Season 5 Finale of Kinda Different is here! Tune in as Dr. Matt Allen chats with Dr. Mahrukh Khwaja, who shares her journey from being a dentist to a workplace psychologist, emphasizing the importance of mental health and resilience in the dental profession. She discusses her experiences with burnout and depression, the tools she discovered for mental fitness, and how she founded Mind Ninja to support dental professionals. The conversation highlights practical strategies for overcoming

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00:34:17

The Dental Innovation Landscape from a Dental...

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2024/12/04

🏔️ What does the dental innovation landscape look like from 30,000 ft? How do policy and regulatory changes shape what we see? How can dental innovation produce social good? We'll answer these questions and more in the latest episode of Kinda Different. Your host, Dr. Matt Allen, chats with Dr. Jeremy Krell of Revere Partners and they discuss the importance of learning from other industries to improve dental care. Dr. Krell highlights the role of policy in shaping the future of dental innovation,

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00:34:18

Nearly Failed Airplanes and The Value of Improv w/...

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2024/11/13

✈️ Another episode of Kinda Different is here! Your host, Dr. Matt Allen, chats with Dr. Brad Hughes of Vision Dental Partners and they discuss the importance of vision and innovation in dentistry, the significance of building a brand within the community, and practical advice for young dentists to enhance their communication skills and patient relationships. They explore how a strong brand can transcend price competition and create lasting connections with patients, emphasizing the need for

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00:25:59

How Face-To-Face Interactions Can Change Everything...

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2024/11/06

🤗 In this episode of Kinda Different, Matt has the opportunity to chat with Dr. Lauren Gerdin, the Chief Dental Officer at Cherry Tree Dental. They discuss Dr. Gerdin's journey in dentistry, the importance of data in driving innovation, and the values that shape her leadership style. The conversation emphasizes the need for a human-centric approach in dental care, the significance of mentorship, and the empowerment of dental teams to enhance patient experiences.You can get in touch with Lauren

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00:28:55

Pushing Limits: From Kickflips to a 24 Op Practice w/...

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2024/10/30

🛹 We're back for another episode of Kinda Different! In this episode, Matt chats with Zachary Shelley, the office manager at Satellite Family Dentistry and a former professional skateboarder. They discuss the role of technology in innovation and how it enhances various aspects of dental practice, such as patient communication, data analysis, and imaging. They also touch on the importance of thinking differently and using technology to create more elegant solutions in patient care. The conversation

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00:39:30

Why A Fractional CCO May Be Right For Your DSO with...

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2024/10/16

📚 Historically, dental school has taught dental students how to do, but has focused less on how to think. In modern dental practice, this can be a problem as cases become more complex and expectations of treatment kept in-house become higher. Enter Drs. Jason Luchtefeld and Kevin Kwiecien of the CCO Solution, helping DSOs with a fractional chief clinical officer that helps dentists not just learn how to do, but how to think.You can get in touch with Jason and Kevin here: Website:

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00:29:43

How a Zoomed Out Perspective Helps Dr. Katie Lee See...

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2024/09/25

🔎 In dentistry, it's easy to fall into the trap of a smaller field of vision being better. 5x loupes are better than 2x loupes, a microscope is better than loupes, etc. But a smaller field of vision makes it hard to see the whole picture, whether that's for an individual patient's health or for the profession in general. In this episode of Kinda Different, Matt chats with Dr. Katie Lee, who has many different roles: a clinical innovator, a technology advisor, an author, a speaker, a

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00:27:10

How To Give Your Patients The Option To Choose with...

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2024/09/11

🍩 Like a co-worker who brings donuts in the morning, a new episode of Kinda Different is here to brighten your day! Listen in as Matt chats with Misty Mattingly, Chief Dental Hygiene Officer at Sage Dental. Misty is a passionate advocate, mentor, and leader in the dental world, and her desire to continue to elevate the dental hygiene profession comes through loud and clear. Tune in to learn more!You can get in touch with Misty here: Email: mmattingly@mysagedental.com Website:

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00:30:42

"Demanding Our Place in the Healthcare Delivery...

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2024/09/04

🎉 We're back! Season 5 of Kinda Different is here! And who better to kick us off than the President-Elect of the American Dental Association, Dr. Brett Kessler. Listen in to their wide-ranging conversation to get Dr. Kessler's perspective on where the ADA is focused in the coming year (and years) - and how you can help shape the journey!You can get in touch with Dr. Kessler here: Email: kesslerb@ada.org See more about DifferentKind at: Website: ⁠https://www.differentkind.com/⁠

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00:41:52

Kinda Different & Growth in Dentistry - A Special...

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2024/06/11

📈 If you know anything about dental analytics, you likely know Dental Intelligence. So when Steve and I met a few months ago, we knew there was a special podcast episode brewing. Steve hosts "Growth in Dentistry" - this episode is a shared episode between his podcast and Kinda Different. We dive deep into how to improve decision making in oral health using analytics, assess the gaps that we currently see, and discuss how we can all move forward to meet the needs of patients, providers,

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00:30:16

"Why Comprehensive Communication Is Mission Critical...

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2024/05/15

🎉 The finale of Season 4 of Kinda Different is here! And there is perhaps no guest more fitting to speak on innovation and making dental care more human than Dr. Pamela Maragliano-Muniz. In addition to owning her own practice, Dr. Maragliano-Muniz is also the host of another amazing dental podcast, Dentistry Unmasked, the Chief Editor at Dental Economics, and the Chief Development Officer at Cellerant Consulting. Listen in to their wide-ranging conversation to get Dr. Maragliano-Muniz's

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00:26:56

"Life is a Team Sport - And So Is Dentistry" With Dr....

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2024/05/08

➕ "The concept of continuous learning is critical for creating a high-performance culture." Dr. Jonathan Levine, clinician, thought leader, and innovator connecting the dots between oral and overall health, joins Carolyn on the new episode of Kinda Different. They discuss how to create high-performing teams that help build trust and loyalty with patients.You can find more about Jonathan at the following places: Website: https://www.drjonathanlevine.com/ LinkedIn:

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00:48:37

"Listening Is A Two Way Street" with Mick Janness,...

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2024/05/01

📈 How do you start a DSO right before COVID and thrive? Listen as guest host Dr. Carolyn Brown chats with Mick Janness, CEO of Oakpoint, to discuss the blueprint for what their organization has prioritized to ensure continued growth and development.You can find more about Mick and Oakpoint at the following places: Website: https://oakpoint.us/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mick-janness/ See more about DifferentKind at: Website: ⁠https://www.differentkind.com/⁠ LinkedIn:

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