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People Managing People

The People Managing People podcast equips forward-thinking leaders to thrive in the AI era—reshaping teams, systems, and strategy without losing what makes work human. Hosted by David Rice, each episode brings real-world insights from innovators, executives, and people leaders on topics like AI in practice, people-first leadership, performance systems, and workplace culture.

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18:41

The AI “Sandwich”: Why HR Teams Are Caught in the Middle

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2026/04/21

AI in HR is finally moving out of the pitch deck and into the messy reality of day-to-day operations. In this conversation, Tim Fisher sits down with Josh Rod from HiBob to unpack what’s actually changing—and what’s still just noise. The headline? Most organizations aren’t chasing some agentic, fully automated future. They’re trying to make today’s workflows less painful, faster, and marginally more effective. But underneath that pragmatic adoption sits a deeper shift: the structure of work i...

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32:48

AI Is Like Fast Food for Your Brain

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2026/04/14

You don’t need to be using AI constantly to be hooked on it—you just need to feel relief when you do. That’s the uncomfortable premise at the heart of this conversation with psychologist and conflict expert Dr. David Zierk. AI doesn’t just give you answers; it removes uncertainty. And in doing so, it quietly rewires how you think, learn, and connect. What starts as convenience can quickly become dependency. Leaders, in particular, are at risk of trading away the friction that produces insight...

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38:14

When Your Expertise Stops Being Yours

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2026/04/07

AI is supposed to free people up for “higher-value work.” Fine. But what, exactly, is that work? In this episode, David Rice talks with cyberpsychology researcher and psychotherapist Dr. Rachel Wood about the part of AI adoption most organizations keep skimming past: the human cost of automating too much, too quickly, without a real philosophy for what should remain deeply, stubbornly human. Their conversation cuts through the usual AI optimism and gets to the more uncomfortable truth. Some f...

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47:27

What Great Leaders Do Differently Under Extreme Pressure

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2026/03/31

Leaders love to frame AI transformation as a technology problem. It’s cleaner that way—tools, roadmaps, implementation plans. But what Anouk Brack lays out here is less flattering and far more consequential: this is a biological stress test, and most leadership teams are quietly failing it. Under constant uncertainty and pressure, your nervous system defaults to survival mode. That means the very capabilities you’re counting on—strategic thinking, self-reflection, sound judgment—start to degr...

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48:14

Corporate Retail Therapy: Why More AI Tools Won’t Help

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2026/03/24

Your leadership team doesn’t have a strategy problem—it has an execution problem disguised as one. The offsite went great, the vision is crisp, and the slides look expensive. But somewhere between “bold initiative” and “Tuesday morning,” nobody translated strategy into what people should actually do. That gap? That’s where most organizations quietly stall. Tom Healy argues that L&D is the missing link leaders keep ignoring. Not because it’s ineffective—but because it’s unglamorous. CEOs w...

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40:47

AI Can Make a Good Job Feel Too Small

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2026/03/17

When turnover is low, leadership loves to call it stability. Jay Caldwell makes the more uncomfortable point: sometimes it is just fear with better optics. In this conversation, he and David unpack why “quiet staying” can become a serious organizational liability in an AI era—especially when people are still hitting goals, still showing up, and still slowly draining the place of experimentation, risk-taking, and fresh thinking. They also get into the deeper workforce consequences of AI adopti...

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57:15

Why Expertise Is Becoming Cheap—and What Leaders Must...

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2026/03/10

If your organization looks successful on paper but feels strangely tense in practice, there’s a good chance fear—not excellence—is quietly running the show. In this episode, David Rice talks with Brave Together author Chris Deaver about how fear disguises itself in high-performing workplaces: polished presentations, perfect metrics, and meetings where nobody laughs—and nobody challenges anything either. Their conversation explores what happens when organizations reward superhero behavior, vis...

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33:33

Why Every Org Should Be Investing in Predictive AI

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2026/03/03

Businesses are pouring millions into generative AI—chatbots, copilots, “agents”—while quietly ignoring the other half of the AI stack that’s been delivering measurable value for decades. Predictive AI doesn’t write poetry. It predicts who’s going to churn, which transaction is fraud, and which customer is worth contacting. It calculates probabilities and helps you act on them at scale. Not glamorous. Just effective. In this conversation, Eric Siegel—author of The AI Playbook and founder of Ma...

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44:47

Why Mindset Beats Skill in AI Transformation

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2026/02/24

You were told AI would clear your calendar. Instead, you’re answering 800 chats a day and wondering what, exactly, you accomplished. Productivity is up. So is the volume. You 10x your output and somehow inherit 10x the work. Welcome to the hamster wheel. In this episode, Eliza Jackson, COO at ButcherBox, and I unpack the real transformation behind AI at work. It’s not about learning a new tool. It’s about unlearning how you work. It’s about rethinking what you own versus what you delegate. An...

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40:30

Why AI Power Users Will Outpace Everyone Else

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2026/02/17

Most employees are using about 1% of what AI can actually do. Not because they’re lazy. Not because they lack access. But because no one has shown them how to think with it. Meanwhile, somewhere in Silicon Valley, a 23-year-old is running a startup like they’ve got 28 PhDs sitting beside them—for a penny a minute. That gap isn’t theoretical. It’s operational. And it’s widening by the hour. In this conversation, Kevin Surace and I dig into what that gap really means—for your productivity, your...

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55:46

What We’re Getting Wrong About AI and Productivity

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2026/02/10

So yeah—your dashboards look great. Your team’s shipping faster, summarizing more, “getting leverage” with AI… and all the while you might be quietly trading away the one asset you can’t buy back on a subscription plan: human judgment. In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Vivienne Ming—neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and an “AI realist” who has zero patience for utopian hype or Skynet fan fiction. Vivienne lays out a clean fork in the road: cognitive automation (AI does the thinking for you) vs. ...

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30:56

Designing for Readiness, Not Just Efficiency, in an...

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2026/02/03

AI didn’t replace your job—it replaced your value proposition. In this episode, we sit down with Taylor Blake, SVP of AI Labs at Degreed, to talk about the uncomfortable truth facing L&D teams: if your job is framed as delivering content, unblocking employees, or feeding answers in the flow of work, AI is already doing it better, faster, and without your calendar invite. But where AI stops short is precisely where L&D’s future begins. Taylor shares how her team at Degreed lives as “cu...

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40:43

From Tools to Agents: Preparing for the Next Phase of...

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2026/01/27

Most business leaders are still talking about AI as if it’s just another “productivity upgrade.” Meanwhile, the world building the future — massive data centers, AGI R&D, and winner‑take‑all investment — is sprinting ahead without guardrails, ethics, or broad societal input. In this conversation, researcher Christopher DiCarlo pushes executives to confront a reality most aren’t prepared for: AI isn’t a tool you add to the org chart, it’s a paradigm shift that will redefine work, power, hu...

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35:07

From Curiosity to Confidence: A Practical Framework...

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2026/01/20

AI is everywhere—and yet, in most organizations, it’s nowhere. People are intrigued, but unsure. Leaders evangelize, but workflows stay the same. Curiosity, it turns out, is not a strategy. In this episode, we’re joined by Justin Angsuwat, Chief People Officer at Culture Amp, to unpack how they flipped the script. In just six weeks, they moved nearly 80% of their workforce from passively curious to actively confident in using AI—without top-down mandates or perfectionist paralysis. We get int...

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40:24

Why HR Gets Stuck on AI—and What It Takes to Lead the...

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2026/01/13

For the past 18–24 months, HR teams have been asked a blunt question: What are you doing with AI? The response has often been activity without strategy — policies, guardrails, governance frameworks — busy work that signals compliance rather than creates value. Dr. Dieter Veldsman joins David to diagnose this pattern of urgency → paralysis → compliance, explain why it’s holding HR back, and show how a deeper sense‑making process is the real lever for progress. Dieter argues — and the data back...

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38:38

The Real Work Now Is Managing Energy, Not Productivity

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2026/01/06

If you’ve noticed that effort stopped being a differentiator, this episode will explain exactly what shifted — and what actually drives value in modern work. Lena Thompson, a leadership consultant with a systems analysis background, argues that the era where hustle and logic alone produced breakthroughs is over. AI can outpace us on sheer processing — but it cannot manage emotional energy, and that’s where the real work of leadership now lives. We dig into what emotional energy actually is (i...

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41:57

Why Your AI Strategy Needs HR From Day Zero

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2025/12/16

If your organization still views HR as the compliance cops standing by to squash complaints about an AI mandate, this episode is going to upend that thinking. David sits down with Tim Fisher—Head of AI at Black & White Zebra and longtime observer of organizational behavior—to dissect the real challenge of AI adoption in business. What he’s learned from being an “HR outsider” is simple but staggering: most companies are treating AI like a tech rollout when the real work is massive human ch...

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40:11

How Microcultures and Mental Fitness Are Redefining...

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2025/12/09

You can count system uptime down to six decimal places and predict when a machine will fail — but when it comes to your employees, you’re flying blind. You track turnover, burnout rates, engagement scores — but those are all lagging indicators, the wreckage after the crash. You’ve no real idea what’s happening beneath the surface: who’s sliding into despair, clutching exhaustion, or on the edge of burnout. If you wait until the metrics hit “bad,” it’s already too late. Today’s guest, John Moo...

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27:37

Building Confidence and Imagination in the Age of AI

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2025/12/02

Most leaders are waiting for a perfect AI strategy. Meanwhile, their teams are already experimenting — just not out in the open. Charlene Li joins me to talk about the real blockers to AI adoption inside organizations, and it’s not the tech. It’s fear, control, and a lack of imagination. We unpack why chasing ROI misses the point, how cultural mindsets shape our fears, and what it really takes to build AI fluency across your team — starting with yourself. If you’re still stuck in “pilot mode,...

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51:49

The Hidden Costs of Poor AI Adoption (And Who Should...

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2025/11/25

Your AI tools aren’t failing because the technology is bad — they’re failing because your organisation wasn’t ready. The real issue isn’t the model. It’s the mismatch between how machines operate and how humans work. And the result? Millions sunk into tools that don’t get used, don’t earn trust, or quietly increase complexity instead of reducing it. In this conversation with David Swanagon, founder of the Machine Leadership Journal, we unpack a three-dimensional model that finally explains wh...

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