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Ending Sexploitation

National Center on Sexual Exploitation

The Ending Sexploitation podcast decodes sexual harms and provides you with active solutions. We address the full spectrum of sexual exploitation, from sex trafficking to sexual violence, to rape culture, to pornography, and more. And better yet, we give you the tools to make a difference!

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25:21

MAJOR Changes Coming to Character.AI

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/10/30

Ending Sexploitation Podcast (Episode 83) Character.AI has announced a surprising and encouraging change to their platform that would restrict usage to 18+ users. It remains to be seen how accurate and reliable their system handles age verification, and Haley McNamara and Dani Pinter discuss the lead up to this monumental change for a major player in the AI companion bot space. Sign this petition to have other AI companies make this change! https://advocacy.charityengine.net/Default.aspx?isid=2673

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45:45

Roblox Sued and Instagram “Gore”

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/10/23

Roblox continues to be one of the most popular AND most dangerous online platforms for kids. Haley McNamara (CSO and Executive Director at NCOSE) is joined by Tim Nester (VP of Communications at NCOSE) to discuss the current state of Roblox safety – or lack thereof – as well as the recent lawsuits that families are filing against the gaming company. Then Tim and Haley dive into recent reports about the Instagram algorithm that has been serving up violent content that many are labeling as “gore”

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37:19

OpenAI to add “Erotica”

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/10/16

OpenAI’s Sam Altman has announced that adult users will be able to access “erotica” as part of their efforts to “treat adults like adults” on the platform. Is this really the best use of technological innovation? Is this where the resources and priorities of companies like OpenAI should be channeled? Haley McNamara and Dani Pinter from NCOSE chat about this new development and the disingenuous context that is attempted in this announcement. Sign this petition to call OpenAI to change this

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42:00

Kids Online Safety Act Explained - Duty of Care,...

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/10/10

Ending Sexploitation Podcast EPISODE 80 In this special episode of the podcast, a panel of experts takes a closer look at the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA) and explore the details around duty of care, enforcement, and emerging tech. This legislation is vital to ongoing efforts to protect children online, and this fantastic group of speakers explain more about the bill and why it should pass. Dani Pinter, Chief Legal Officer and Director of the NCOSE Law Center Benjamin Bull, Senior Vice President

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42:18

2025 TIP Report – Ranking Every Country’s Efforts to...

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2025/10/03

The 2025 Trafficking in Persons Report has been released by the State Department of the United States, and Marcel van der Watt (President and CEO at NCOSE) joins Haley McNamara (Executive Director and CSO at NCOSE) and Dani Pinter (CLO and Director of the NCOSE Law Center) to talk about some of the surprises in this 25th edition of the annual report. Each year, it ranked countries into tiers based on their efforts to combat trafficking, and our team dives into why some of these rankings seem to

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36:57

The Collateral Damage of Meta’s AI Chatbot

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/09/26

Dani Pinter (Chief Legal Officer at NCOSE) and Haley McNamara (Chief Strategy Officer at NCOSE) discuss some of the recent heartbreaking stories shared by families who have been devastated by careless and out of control A.I. Chatbots. They discuss the specific stories shared at a recent Senate hearing as well as articles and studies that show this goes beyond one-time anecdotal examples. It’s time for companies like Meta to stop viewing these families as collateral damage and to make changes to

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01:02:20

The Truth About Fathers - Patrick Erlandson

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/09/19

Tim Nester (Vice President of Communications at NCOSE) is sitting in to host this week, and he sits down with Patrick Erlandson to discuss the Truth About Fathers and their role in the fight against sexual exploitation – specifically areas of pornography and sex trafficking. Patrick’s journey into the movement to end sexual exploitation began during his time working with the United Nations Refugee Agency, where he witnessed firsthand the horrors of trafficking and exploitation. In 2018, he founded

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27:26

The Lure of Lies: Grooming and Recruitment in the Sex...

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2025/09/12

Victoria Sinis is the founder of Creating Gems, an organization created to help young women break free from harmful narratives about themselves. In this presentation from the 2024 CESE Summit, Victoria digs into the deceptive tactics used to lure individuals into the commercial sex trade. As a former employee at a recruitment agency for OnlyFans, Victoria shares her journey of realization, her immediate departure from the industry, and her ongoing crusade to expose these harmful practices. Gain a

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33:28

Epstein Survivor Speaks Out

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/09/04

Haley McNamara (Chief Strategy Officer at NCOSE) sits down with Teresa J. Helm (Public Policy Outreach Manager and Survivor Services Coordinator at NCOSE) to talk about her experience as a survivor. This past week, survivors gathered on Capitol Hill to call on lawmakers to release the government files on the Epstein case. Teresa added her voice to that gathering, and in this episode, she talks about the details of the event. She speaks out about both Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, and she

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41:55

Roblox, Meta AI, and Spotify Causing Real World Harm?

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/08/28

Dani Pinter (Chief Legal Officer at NCOSE) and Haley McNamara (Chief Strategy Officer at NCOSE) sit down to discuss 3 major corporations that are currently OR soon will be facilitating real world harms because of the nature of their platforms. The lack of real security and safety measures for kids is astonishing. Today’s conversation takes a closer look at why the new Spotify DM feature is so concerning, as well as the active harms happening to real kids and families on Roblox as well as Meta A.I.

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42:17

A Conversation with NCOSE President and CEO Marcel...

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/08/21

Haley McNamara (Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Director at NCOSE) sits down with NCOSE President and CEO, Marcel van der Watt to chat about his background and motivations in this work to end sexual exploitation. Marcel brings incredible expertise to this leadership role including experience with law enforcement, research, training, writing, and speaking. He and Haley dive into what brought him to this point and what the future holds for NCOSE and the overall movement. Donate to NCOSE:

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29:55

Survivor Denied Justice in Nevada

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/08/14

Dani Pinter and Haley McNamara talk about the latest developments in a case in Nevada involving sex trafficking and the 13th amendment. Dani explains how the 13th amendment’s language about slavery applies in this case as well as the realities of survivors being bullied and shamed when they are bold enough to speak up. Learn more about the Nevada lawsuit and the next steps of appealing the pseudonym ruling below. Get Help from the NCOSE Law Center: https://sexualexploitationlawsuits.com/get-help

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41:15

Twitter Lawsuit Update and is Grok Out of Control?

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/08/07

Dani Pinter (Chief Legal Counsel at NCOSE) and Haley McNamara (Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Director at NCOSE) talk about the latest ruling from the 9th Circuit Court in the ongoing Twitter (Now X) case. They talk about the heartbreaking circumstances that led to the lawsuit and what the ruling means for this case as well as broader implications for Section 230. They also discuss the latest news about Grok creating deepfake nude imagery of celebrities without even being prompted to do so

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39:26

The Lie of Legalizing Prostitution

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/07/31

At the 2022 CESE Summit, Haley McNamara sits down with German abolitionist and writer Elly Arrow for a powerful conversation about the reality of legalized prostitution in Germany. Elly shares on-the-ground insights into how the legal system has expanded the sex trade, obscured trafficking, and failed those it claims to protect. Together, they unpack the violence and exploitation faced by women in the system, the role of sex buyers, and why Elly believes real justice starts with tackling male

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28:18

Pornography's Influence on Desire

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/07/24

Haley McNamara (SVP at NCOSE) and Dani Pinter (SVP and Director of the Law Center at NCOSE) take a closer look at the impact that pornography use has on our sexual arousal template. More specifically, they discuss some studies that have been done to demonstrate the rise in violent sexual behavior like choking or strangulation. These experiments were able to condition men to be aroused by shapes and inanimate objects, and it demonstrates that when a person is exposed to pornography, they can be

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42:05

The Danger of Grok’s New AI Companions

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/07/17

Dani Pinter (Senior Vice President at the NCOSE Law Center) and Haley McNamara (Senior Vice President at NCOSE) react to the latest update to Grok which include chatbot avatars that can act as your companion – even as a romantic connection. “Ani” is depicted as a very young anime girl who is programmed to be “crazy in love” with the user and can have progressively more sexually explicit interactions as the user advances through the conversation. This even includes getting the bot to describe itself

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44:12

Reactions to the Diddy Verdict and Epstein Memo

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/07/10

Our subject matter experts and hosts, Haley McNamara (SVP at NCOSE) and Dani Pinter (SVP at the NCOSE Law Center), provide insights and reactions to the recent verdict results from the Diddy trial as well as the memo about the Epstein file that was release by the Department of Justice. Both of these outcomes leave us with a lot of frustration and very few answers. The lack of understanding of sex trafficking in our culture was reflected in the jury’s decision in the Diddy trial. Also, the efforts

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27:58

BREAKING NEWS: Supreme Court UPHOLDS Age Verification...

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/06/27

Instead of waiting to publish this episode on July 3rd to keep with our normal episode schedule, we wanted to get this conversation to you as quickly as possible. We will be back to our normal release schedule with episode 67! Today the Supreme Court issued their opinion that the Texas Age Verification law is constitutional and paves the way for other states to pass similar legislation! It’s an incredible day in the movement to end sexual exploitation as the Supreme Court ruled that the age

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28:19

Is The Proposed “A.I. Moratorium” Another CDA Section...

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/06/26

As congress considers whether or not to implement a proposed 10-year moratorium on A.I. state regulation, Haley and Dani talk about the potential devastating effects this could have. Some have even referred to this as “Section 230 on steroids” so this episode is essential for understanding what the moratorium is and what the impacts would be. Big Tech doesn’t need another layer of immunity or security to allow them to hide while they profit off the exploitation of human beings in the name of

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48:15

Roblox, Meta, and Apple Aren’t Protecting Kids and...

Ending Sexploitation ·

2025/06/19

Nicki Petrossi (from Scrolling2Death) joins Haley to discuss big tech, social media, and protecting our kids online. They talk about the need for these companies to do MORE while also calling on parents to learn about the devices and apps their kids are using. Some of these apps look incredibly kid-friendly but have virtually no meaningful protections between young kids and predatory adults. Roblox is a great example of this, and Haley and Nicki dive into the details behind this popular game

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