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The Score

Eric Jimenez & Justin McLean

An Urban Music Education Podcast hosted by Eric and Justin. They provide tips and strategies through honest discussions about their experience teaching music in an Urban setting. The goal is to provide a positive and solution-based narrative to create more effective, compassionate and culturally relevant music educators.

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Ep. 120-Christopher Herrero- The Art of Band is the...

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2025/10/27

Send us a text 🎙 Episode 120: Christopher Herrero – The Art of Band is the Art of War This week on The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Christopher Herrero, Director of Bands at the legendary Edna Karr High School in New Orleans. 🔥 A proud Karr alum and the first Latino Tuba Section Leader at Jackson State University, Herrero returned home to lead the very program that shaped him—reviving its legacy, growing student membership, and infusing new purpose into every rehearsal. 💡 From the

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Ep. 119- Dr. Derrick Fox- If It Is To Be, It Is Up To Me

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2025/10/06

Send us a text In this powerful and reflective episode of The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Dr. Derrick Fox (@singingingfox1), Associate Dean of Graduate Studies, Research, and Creative Endeavors and Associate Director of Choral Programs at the Michigan State University College of Music. Dr. Fox opens up about his journey as a leader, educator, and artist — exploring how self-determination, intentionality, and community have shaped his path. From navigating barriers as a Black musician...

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Ep. 118- Daniel Flores (@trumpetpapi) - Más Que...

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2025/09/22

Send us a text 🎙 Episode 118: Más Que Música – Identity & Accessibility in Music Education In this week’s episode of The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Daniel Flores (@trumpetpapi) — musician, content creator, and advocate for culturally rooted music education. Daniel shares his journey growing up in underfunded, majority-Hispanic music programs, and how those early experiences shaped his passion for making music more accessible and meaningful for all students. From starting the

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Ep. 117- Classroom Culture and Discipline- Without...

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2025/08/25

Send us a text This week on The Score, Eric and Justin dive into one of the toughest balancing acts in music education: creating strong classroom culture and managing discipline—without losing the spark that makes music joyful. 🔥 From setting expectations on Day 1 to navigating those inevitable tough moments, Eric and Justin share real stories, lessons learned, and strategies that keep students accountable and inspired. 💡 Whether you’re a new teacher building your first program or a veteran

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Ep. 116: Back to School in Music Ed – Lessons from...

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2025/08/11

Send us a text The Score is kicking off the school year with fresh energy and new perspectives! Eric and Justin are back to talk about what it really takes to start strong—whether you’re leading a high school ensemble, shaping young minds in elementary, or finding your rhythm as a new teacher. 🎯 In this episode, Justin shares his journey transitioning from secondary to elementary music teaching—what’s surprised him, what’s challenged him, and the lessons he’s already learned. Eric brings

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Ep. 115- We’re Back: Music Ed, Leadership, and What’s...

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2025/07/28

Send us a text After a brief break, The Score is back in full effect! Eric and Justin reunite at the mics to reflect, recharge, and refocus on what matters most: music education, leadership, and building spaces where all students thrive. 🎯 In this episode, we unpack where we’ve been, what’s changed in the world of education, and why this next chapter feels more urgent—and more exciting—than ever. 💬 From burnout to breakthroughs, we’re getting real about the challenges educators face and the

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Ep. 114- Relative Pitch x The Score Podcast Collab:...

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2024/10/30

Send us a textOur first collab with The Relative Pitch Podcast!Support the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

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Ep. 113- Dr. Ruben James Alcala- NOT QUITE: The Quest...

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2024/09/30

Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin get to interview Dr. Ruben James Alcala. Dr. Alcala serves as the Vocal and Elementary Music Coordinator for Fort Worth ISD. Listen in as we journey through a decorated career and the genesis story of how music changed his career trajectory. This conversation paints a beautiful picture of Dr. Alcala’s journey that fuels his convictions and has made his quest more impactful for the students he serves. Please check out this week's episode to...

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Ep. 112- Caring for Students Post-High School:...

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2024/09/23

Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a conversation about the longevity of relationships built with students that extend beyond the band hall. We, as music educators, have a great opportunity to invest in our kids for now and for years down the road. Both Eric and Justin recall moments that have afforded them a place to still have the space to continue to pour and mentor. This episode is to inspire and help all of our listeners see the opportunity we have to continu...

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Ep. 111: Dr. A. Jan Taylor- Mentorship in the 21st...

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2024/09/09

Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation with a world-class educator who invested in the lives of both Eric and Justin. This episode features the well-decorated Dr. A. Jan Taylor. Dr. Taylor has taught at every level and achieved great success. And was the former Choral Director and music professor at Prairie View A&M University. Since her retirement in 2020, she has still been in heavy demand as a clinician, mentor, and sage of wisdom for u...

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Ep. 110: Adam Chitta- Deaf Students CAN be succesful...

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2024/07/29

Send us a Text Message.In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation meeting the needs of every student. Specifically, our deaf students make up our various musical ensembles. To help us fully grasp this nuance, we had the pleasure of engaging with Mr. Adam Chitta. Mr. Chitta is the founder and owner of The Chitta Sound and an accomplished band director at North East ISD in San Antonio. In this dialogue, Adam raises awareness and gives proper tools as a deaf band ...

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Ep. 109- Authenticity is the NAME of the Game:...

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2024/07/15

In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into the beauty of a name. Not just any name but specifically the students' names in our programs. There is something to be said about getting a child's name right. Listen in as both Eric and Justin discuss how we can make something so significant seem insignificant. There is confidence, care, and authenticity when we, as educators, aim to get our students' names correct. It's a great reminder that another school year is ramping up. It's a conversa...

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Ep. 108- Sean Rodriguez- This and That: A Mariachi...

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2024/04/15

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Ep. 107-After the Ratings: How to Prepare for Next Year

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2024/04/08

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Ep. 106: Protecting Your Peace: Balancing Demands in...

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2024/03/18

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Ep. 105- Seize Your Opportunity: Ricardo Brown

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2024/03/11

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Ep. 104: Beyond Words: Colleague Reactions to the...

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2024/03/04

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Ep. 103- The Hustle Outside of Music: Dr. Kelvin Jones

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2023/12/05

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Ep. 102- Head and Assistant Directors: A Match Forged...

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2023/10/30

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Ep. 101- Dr. Andrew Hunter- This AND: Open to...

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2023/10/24

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