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Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.

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42:01

Heavy Seas Charts a New Path Forward

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/10/29

Hugh Sisson of Heavy Seas returns to the program to talk about the brewery joining B3, a collective of brewers. He also touches on the importance of hospitality, innovation, and ways to navigate the current state of the beer industry. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method

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50:56

A Beer Drinking Milestone Decades in the Making

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2025/10/22

The beer world is filled with achievements. A few weeks back the Great American Beer Festival handed out its annual awards. Around Denver there were other competitions like Alpha King and Krispy King. Brewers might be crowned in “best of” lists by newspapers or local magazines. Way back in the day Wynkoop Brewery would hand out its beer drinker of the year award.Other milestones are more private and personal. Don Tse, recently hit an important beer milestone. For nearly thirty years he has

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50:36

From the Brewhouse to the C-Suite: The Leadership...

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2025/10/15

Making great beer is one challenge; running a successful brewery is another. As today’s industry faces tighter margins, shifting consumer trends, and economic uncertainty, many brewers find themselves taking on new roles as managers and executives. Our panel today – moderated by Andy Crouch from Schilling’s Oktoberfest - includes decision makers who have run brewhouses and have transitioned to running their businesses, folks who have worked for others and on their own, and have managed all

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45:42

Selling Lager in the Age of Moderation

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/10/08

The Year of the Lager has been predicted for decades, and it is finally coming true. And the timing couldn’t be better. Drinking habits continue to shift and younger audiences are increasingly embracing moderation or even alcohol abstinence. The craft beer industry finds itself at a crossroads. After decades of solid and sometimes explosive growth, craft beer faces both a challenge and an opportunity. Lager, with its approachable strength and depth of flavor, is uniquely positioned to

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54:07

Where to Drink Beer in Denver (2025 Great American...

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/10/01

It’s just about that time of year again when the beer faithful travel to Denver for the Great American Beer Festival. But truth be told, there’s so much do to in the Mile High City that even if you don’t go to the convention center there’s endless beer fun to be had. A trio of local experts - Jonathan Shikes of the Denver Post, Tristan Chan of Porch Drinking, and Dustin Craft of Malteurop joins host John Holl to break down where you should go to eat, drink, and be merry. For more Drink

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54:03

Neil Witte Wants You to Think About Beer Pours

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/09/24

Neil Witte wants you to start thinking about how your beer is poured. The Master Cicerone, brewery consultant, educator, and draft technician has long been advocating for clean lines and proper service, but as of late he has been thinking about how beer is presented, what that does for flavor and the customer experience. After listening to this conversation, you’re going to give the man what he wants. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft

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49:50

The Importance of the Beer Culture Center

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2025/09/17

The Beer Culture Center was founded by Liz Garabay, a long-time museum professional. When she sketched it out in 2013 she wanted it to be a place that would look at history and society through the lens of drinking. The idea came to life and has now presented hundreds exhibits and events around the country. It’s important and necessary work, one everyone in the industry should be supporting. The center also hosts the annual Beer Culture Summit, a multi-day, multi-disciplinary experience

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41:22

Making the Long Drive for Fresh Hops: Offset Bier...

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/09/10

In Park City, Utah, Offset Bier is doing big things. In a state with laws that can make it tough to be a brewer, Conor Brown, the brewery founder, is doing what he can to bring fresh flavorful beer to the people all while creating a welcoming community space. He’s currently working to build out the brewery footprint, bringing in new equipment and adding more space, and at this time of year he finds the time to make frequent trips to Idaho where he loads up on fresh hops to bring back to

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39:31

Reassessing a Career in Brewing

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/09/03

We’re at a curious point in American brewing. Some talented brewers are choosing to walk away from a career they have loved. It’s not a bad thing, just part of the evolution. This week Derek Gallanosa shares his journey. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a

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46:07

Barrel pH1 Arrives at Off Color Brewing

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/08/27

We’re talking about barrels, branding, and business with John Laffler of Off Color Brewing. This is insight from the Chicago brewer that you’re not going to want to miss. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60

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41:26

What Brewing Historical Beers Tells Us About Modern...

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/08/20

For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some

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41:12

Drinking Beer for a Good Cause

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2025/08/13

Drinking Beer can do good for the world. Rick Lyke of Pints for Prostates is here to talk about his organization and the evolution of the Denver Rare Beer Tasting. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute

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51:38

Looking Forward to Fresh Hop Season

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/08/06

San Diego has long been a den of craft beer ingenuity. On this episode I’m talking with Daniel Cady of TapRoom Brewery about his approach to hops in beer when it comes to staying interested as a brewer and keeping customers happy. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method

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64:21

The Evolution of an India Pale Ale

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/07/30

Beer recipes are always evolving. Recently, a group got together to faithfully rebrew a west coast IPA that happened to be the original version of Swami, the famed Pizza Port Brewing Beer. On this episode you’ll hear how it happened and how palates have evolved. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their

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48:44

Striving for Perfection in Beer

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/07/23

This week it’s a wide-ranging conversation on the persuit of perfection when it comes to beer. Ryan McCay of Living Waters in Tennessee is here to share his journey and you’ll leave feeling inspired. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor

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48:29

The Life and Death of TRVE Brewing

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2025/07/16

This week, we say goodbye to Trve Brewing, one of the great beer success stories of the early 2010s that captured headlines and fans thanks to it’s musical bent and welcoming approach. It closed both its original Denver location and its newer Asheville, NC location last week. Founder Nick Nunns joins the show to share the history, reasoning, and his forward vision. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish

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61:47

Recipe Development: Creativity and Inspiration

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2025/07/09

A discussion about what can drive good recipe development and new ideas for creativity in beer making. We will go over the "how" and "why" of making new beers as well as translating those ideas to sustainable and effective brewing practices. Guests include Devin Bush of Wildbloom Beer, Tony Cordova of Scale House Brewing, and Megan Parisi of Samuel Adams. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60

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54:30

How Craft Beer, and IPAs in Particular, are Changing...

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/07/02

Farm owner Diane Gooding, Liz Bauer of Garston Hops and Alex Nowell, Mellotone Beer Project brewer and CLS Farms consultant, discuss how the partnership between brewers and growers has evolved in the past 20 years. Learn about the role terroir and farm practices play in hop aroma and flavor, and how the industry is adjusting to a slowdown in hop sales. Moderated by Stan Hieronymus.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop

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53:05

What Does it Mean to be Local (Part 2)

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2025/06/25

What does it mean to be local, and what are the small things businesses do to have a true sense of self in that space?This is a continuation of last week's episode - recorded at Wheatland Spring Farm and Brewery in Virginia - where the panel goes deeper into the themes they tee'd up during the storytelling session. Guests include: John Branding of Wheatland Spring Farm and Brewery, Rob Rubba of Oyster, Oyster in Washington, DC Christian Gregory of Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen, and Sarah Searle of

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53:22

Diving into the Meaning of "Local" (part 1)

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl ·

2025/06/18

What does it mean to be local, and what are the small things businesses do to have a true sense of self in that space? A few weeks back Wheatland Spring Farm and Brewery in Virginia celebrated seven years of operation with a chill little festival that brought local artisans to its sprawling farmland. To kick off the day owners Bonnie and John Branding invited All About Beer editor John Holl to moderate a “storytelling” panel, where their friends and colleagues from the beer, food, and wine

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