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Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast

Hosted by Refine Labs, this podcasts is for marketers, by marketers. Whether you"re new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who"ve been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let"s help build each other up.

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00:32:38

Embracing AI As A Designer

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/12/23

SummaryChris Ford, Lead Designer at Refine Labs, shares how creative professionals can harness AI without compromising artistic integrity. Speaking to an audience navigating the rapid shift toward automation in design and marketing, Ford clarifies that tools like Midjourney and Runway are accelerators—not replacements—for real strategic thinking. His journey from teen coder to strategic designer reveals the mindset shift creatives must adopt to thrive in a performance-driven, AI-infused landscape

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01:02:10

Integrating AI into your workflow - without the hype!!

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/12/16

Topics CoveredAI efficiency vs. AI opportunity in modern B2B orgsUse cases across Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and ChatGPTClaude for Excel outperforming native pluginsAI-powered brand visibility audits (AIO, GEO)Building MVPs from product demos using GeminiAutomating reporting and funnel analysis with ChatGPT & GeminiCustom GPTs for keyword analysis and lead quality reviewsAI system design in regulated or high-security environmentsFramework-based AI prompting for repeatable resultsTesting rigor and

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00:28:13

HOW TO: Be a Human Copywriter in the AI Era

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/12/09

Erik Sena, Copy Manager at Refine Labs, shares his creative journey and how AI is reshaping the modern copywriter’s toolkit. This honest and insightful discussion explores the human side of marketing innovation and the future of creative work.Speakers and RolesErik Sena – Copy Manager at Refine Labs; leads brand voice efforts internally and across client accounts, overseeing multiple writers and creative outputSteph Crugnola– Host of Stacking Growth: Called to ActionEvan Hughes – Co-host; provides

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00:50:13

Implementing Modern B2B Marketing Strategies

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/12/02

This conversation explores how Refine Labs drives measurable B2B SaaS growth through demand strategy, paid media optimization, creative execution, and AI-era marketing fundamentals. Listeners gain a clear understanding of how modern demand generation, positioning, and strategic rigor create predictable pipeline and revenue outcomes.Topics CoveredRefine Labs’ evolution, revenue milestones, and agency repositioningStrategic focus on digital strategy, paid media, creative production, and demand

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00:54:40

Proving Ad Impact in 2026

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/11/25

This roundtable explores how B2B teams can use modern demand strategies, B2C channels, and incrementality testing to prove true ad impact in 2026. The conversation highlights omni-channel expansion beyond LinkedIn, data-driven measurement, and practical ways to validate lift across pipeline and revenue.Speakers and RolesMatt Sciannella – Host and practitioner running paid media for multiple B2B clients; shares real client use cases, lift results, and practical frameworks for measurement and

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00:31:17

Being a Designer in the AI Era

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/11/18

0. SummaryThis episode explores how Refine Labs lead designer Monica Beesting navigates creativity, design workflows, and authenticity in the AI era. Listeners gain practical insight into how human-driven creative direction remains essential even as AI tools expand what’s possible in modern marketing.1. Speakers and RolesSteph Cragnola – Host; marketer guiding conversations about growth, change, and modern marketing challenges.Evan Hughes – Host; marketing practitioner offering perspective on

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00:24:39

Marketing Agency 101 with Megan Bowen

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/11/13

Refine Labs CEO Megan Bowen joins Evan Kirstel for a deep-dive into how B2B marketing must evolve for the AI era. The conversation covers modern go-to-market models, buyer-centric strategies, and how Refine Labs helps companies drive measurable pipeline growth through data, experimentation, and cultural excellence.1. Speakers and RolesMegan Bowen – CEO of Refine Labs. With 20 years in B2B SaaS at companies like Zocdoc, Grubhub, and WeWork, she brings deep expertise in modernizing go-to-market

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01:23:23

B2B Growth: Fundamentals and Future

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/11/04

Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, shares the core fundamentals behind modern B2B growth. She explains how buyer behavior has shifted, how marketing must evolve, and what it takes to build a profitable, scalable go-to-market engine rooted in focus, data, and customer understanding.Topics CoveredEvolution of B2B buying: analog → website → dark social → AI era.Aligning go-to-market around buyer behavior.Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) definition and validation.Strategic narrative development using Andy

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00:59:15

Get Started: Performance Marketing Plays that WORK

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/10/28

Refine Labs’ Stacking Growth roundtable, hosted by Matt Sciannella with guest Ky Shaw of DemandOS, dives deep into performance marketing plays that generate real pipeline fast. The discussion covers tactical frameworks for aligning with sales, running direct-response ads, and launching actionable campaigns that drive measurable results in B2B environments.Topics Covered-How to build pipeline through performance marketing plays that actually work-Aligning marketing with sales via pipeline activation

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00:09:08

How to Thrive in the New Era of Marketing

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/10/21

Megan Bowen was featured on the most recent episode of Tech Impact, hosted by Evan Kirstel. We're excited today to release the full interview, including extra questions that weren't aired in the TV segment. She touches on the new era of buying behavior, our Brand, Demand, Expand strategy, and how AI has impacted the marketing agency landscape. Want to learn how to thrive in this new era of marketing? Listen in!

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00:37:33

How to Bridge the Attribution Gap | Sidney Waterfall

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/10/07

Called to Action is back with Sidney Waterfall to walk us through her journey as a marketer blending qualitative data with quantitative insights, and how that can help bridge the attribution gap.Sydney shares her journey and emphasizes the power of qualitative data, like self-reported attribution, and how it complements quantitative analytics to foster business growth. Her unique approach lies in blending both data sets to inform strategic decisions and improve marketing functions. Sydney discusses

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00:42:49

How to capture, create, and convert demand in the AI era

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/09/30

Our CEO Megan Bowen was a guest on Charles Gaudet's Predictable Profits podcast to talk about the outdated funnel and how to market in the AI era. From Predictable Profits: "If you’re still trying to grow your business with traditional funnels and wondering why your capture, create, convert demand strategy isn’t working, you’re about to discover why those old-school tactics are completely dead. In this episode, I sit down with one of the very few people who actually gets it – Megan Bowen –

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00:53:21

Complete Breakdown: Brand. Demand. Expand.

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/09/23

Megan Bowen hosts ChampionHQ’s CEO Gianna Scorsone to cover Refine Labs’ Brand, Demand, Expand strategy. They discuss how combining brand strength, creating demand, and expanding existing customer relationships can combat current market challenges, especially in the AI era. The conversation demystifies these pillars and offers practical, actionable insights into efficiently integrating them into a comprehensive marketing plan.Listeners are introduced to advanced concepts such as leveraging customer

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00:36:23

Why Storytelling is Crucial for Brand Marketing |...

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/09/16

Called to Action is back with Liam Moroney of Storybook marketing to walk us through his journey as a marketer focused on brand and storytelling. He gives his history, philosophy, and advice on how to change your leadership's mindset. Liam draws from his extensive background in B2B marketing to share his experiences in navigating various industries, emphasizing the importance of moving from a 'growth at all costs' mindset to a more sustainable, brand-centric strategy. The conversation

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01:29:51

Measuring Marketing: A Complete Breakdown

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/09/09

Matt Sciannella hosts Dale Harrison in a three part summer event series to cover the intricacies of Brand and Performance marketing. This is the full recording, including previously unreleased Q&A from the live audience, of the final summer event. Dale presents a compelling case for revolutionizing how marketing investments are understood, measured, and communicated. This episode transforms complex financial details into digestible insights, revealing why relying solely on current period revenue

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00:37:09

How to Calculate ROI

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/09/02

Matt Sciannella hosts Dale Harrison in a three part summer event series to cover the intricacies of Brand and Performance marketing. This is the second part of the final event, and covers all of the specific calculations you need to know to accurately find your Marketing ROI. Dale presents a compelling case for revolutionizing how marketing investments are understood, measured, and communicated. This episode transforms complex financial details into digestible insights, revealing why relying solely

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00:34:17

Why Revenue isn't the right Metric

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/08/26

Matt Sciannella hosts Dale Harrison in a three part summer event series to cover the intricacies of Brand and Performance marketing. This is the first part of the final event: covering where Marketing ROI fails, and digging into the problems with measuring Revenue. Dale and Matt get into the conventional approaches to calculating marketing ROI, highlighting their limitations and presenting a more comprehensive framework. The discussion sets the stage for a robust understanding of marketing's

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00:52:55

Integrating CTV into your paid media strategy |...

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/08/19

Evan Hughes hosts Matt Sciannella, Aaron Weekes, and Kyle Taylor to discuss how to integrate Connected TV (CTV) into paid media strategies, particularly for B2B companies. With digital landscapes evolving, the conversation emphasizes the importance of leveraging CTV's unique opportunities for audience reach and targeted awareness. The experts provide a detailed discussion on how CTV not only complements traditional digital efforts but also stands out with its TV dominance, capturing audiences

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00:47:07

Brand. Demand. Expand. The Essential new Go-To-Market...

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/08/12

From Dreamdata: "Things have changed over the last five years… and these are the core pillars you need to think about if you want to be successful as a company.Amidst intense budget scrutiny, disruptive AI, and failing lead-generation tactics, B2B marketers must overhaul their strategies to survive and grow by shifting focus from capturing existing demand to strategically creating it for the future.Speaking on a recent Attributed Podcast, Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, broke down the strategy

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00:35:48

Addressing Common Arguments Against Brand Marketing

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast ·

2025/08/05

Matt Sciannella hosts Dale Harrison in a three part summer event series to cover the intricacies of Brand and Performance marketing. This is the second part of the second event, digging into four different common arguments that CFOs make against brand, including: timing, budget, outdated beliefs about buyers, and misguided thoughts on company scope. Check out our⁠ events page⁠ to register for the third event, happening live on August 21. Episode topics: #marketing, #demandgeneration, #brand,

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