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Earthy Chats Podcast

Outdoor Learning School & Store/CBEEN, and Stoked on Science

Join us for wide-ranging chats with outdoor and environmental educators about best practices, changing trends, and new insights about the outdoor learning and enviro. ed. fields. Long-time educators Ian Shanahan and Jade Berrill from the Non-profit Outdoor Learning School & Store facilitate the cross-pollination of ideas. Join the discussion!

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57:29

Outdoor learning for assessment and social-emotional...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2025/11/21

Prepositions matter in this episode, specifically that three-letter word ‘for.’ What is outdoor learning ‘for’ assessment? How can we facilitate outdoor learning ‘for’ social-emotional learning (SEL)? Teacher, writer, podcaster, and regular sit-spot practitioner Lauren MacLean of Teach Outdoors joined us to talk assessment and SEL in the context of learning outdoors. We also got into the weeds regarding British Columbia’s competency-based assessment framework as well as documenting learners’

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46:26

Indigenous wellness and language learning

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2025/07/24

There has been a sharp increase over the past decade in educational resources from Indigenous perspectives. What can we look for when selecting such resources? Which gaps remain, and how do we address them? Launa Payne and Sherrelle Anderson of Rise Up Indigenous Wellness joined us to discuss these questions and offer their insights about learning Indigenous languages, paths to reconciliation, and the power of shared laughter.Guests: From the Rise Up Indigenous Wellness website Launa Payne is a

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29:48

Nature and heritage interpretation: yesterday, today,...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2025/04/11

With Parker McMullen Bushman of the National Association of Interpretation and EcoinclusiveHow has the field of interpretation changed in recent decades? What opportunities do digital tools open up for interpreters? Where can we look for guidance in telling uncomfortable stories and reconciling with difficult truths? NAI Board President Parker McMullen Bushman covers all of these questions and reminds us why nature and heritage interpreters can have such a major influence on individuals and the

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35:47

Fireside Chat: Truth and Reconciliation — where to...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2025/02/11

In our first fireside-chat episode, we hear from multiple voices to unpack different aspects of Truth and Reconciliation. The idea here is to invite curiosity, reflection, and discussion. We’ve heard from many folks over the years that they’d like to learn more but aren’t quite sure where to start. We hope that this episode serves as an invitation to get started, no matter what your starting point is. Resources for Indigenous Learning: 4 Seasons of Indigenous Learning (virtual course) Indigenous

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38:51

Learning through a watershed lens

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2024/12/13

Ian and Jade are back for this two-part episode!In Part 1, the co-hosts begin to unpack the use of watersheds as an integrating context for learning (AKA, watershed education). In Part 2 starting at the 12:45 mark, we return to an episode of the Talking with Green Teachers podcast from the spring of 2022 wherein Ian and guest David Ramsay discussed these questions: What is watershed education? Why is it a critical component of place-based learning? How can we engage students of all ages in

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54:16

Episode 20: Learning in, about, from, and for nature

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2024/02/16

What are some common barriers to learning in nature? How can we shift the paradigm whereby learning about nature is prioritized? What are some key lessons we can learn from nature? How does learning for nature also benefit learners? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat:the purpose of environmental education and education as a whole transitioning from “sage on the stage” to “guide on the side” escaping the cycle of mediocrity getting beyond the

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54:48

Episode 19: Giving outdoor learners the “experiential...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2023/12/22

How does outdoor education differ from outdoor learning? What is the “experiential edge” for both young people and adults? Why does outdoor learning often diminish or stop with older learners? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *embedding outdoor learning into the everyday structures of schools *the distinction between outdoor learning and Land-based learning *unpacking New Brunswick’s six global competencies and how outdoor learning helps students achieve them *supporting students

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45:17

Episode 18: From eco-anxiety to eco-action

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2023/09/06

How can we support educator manage their own eco-anxiety and that of their students? What is the process of moving from eco-anxiety to eco-action? Why is it so important to acknowledge, name, and sit with the complex emotions associated with environmental concerns? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *the need to focus on solutions and not just stop at problems *age-appropriateness of climate change ed. *Earth Rangers’ Eco-Anxiety Index *children’s influence on parents regarding

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52:15

Episode 17: Soil study and inquiry

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/12/05

What’s the value of learning about soil? How can educators engage their students in soil studies if they lack expertise? Why do so many people feel happier when they get their hands dirty? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *the differences between soil and dirt *using storytelling as a tool to spark curiosity *the remarkable world of microbes in soil *Megan’s recent research into barriers to outdoor learning *the necessity of giving learning experiences time to breathe *enhancing

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55:38

Episode 16: Community collaboration in built...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/08/29

What’s the most impactful length for educational programming? How does community collaboration help us manage challenges? Why is intergenerational learning so effective? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *the opportunities brought about by virtual learning *getting back to hands-on, experiential learning with SaskOutdoors *the benefits of active transportation like the Punch Buggy Express *indirectly educating others through public programming *outdoor learning in built

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45:17

Episode 15: Forging nature-based connections

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/07/27

What is a ‘nature sommelier’? How are seeing and noticing different? Why is storytelling such a powerful outdoor learning tool? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *formative moments in Jacob’s childhood as a “wild child” nature explorer *children’s right to interact with Vitamin N *the importance of regeneration in addition to sustainability *the development of The Big Book of Nature Activities *the magic of “I wonder…” and “it reminds me of…” inquiries *learning outdoors using all

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57:31

Episode 14: Awakening to the lessons of the land

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/06/25

How do outdoor learning and various Indigenous teachings overlap? What are some existing inequities in teaching and how can we address them? Why is the land such an effective teacher? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *exploring (and sometimes talking to) plants *how Jenna's teaching experience has informed her admin. work *working with students with diverse abilities *the wonder of soil and the "wood-wide web" *inside the Every Child Matters Year-long Learning Challenge *becoming

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57:40

Episode 13: Talking astronomy with ”Astro” Stephenson

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/05/31

Why teach astronomy? How important is each and every one of us in the universe? Where in popular culture do we see references to space and astronomy? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *Tim's childhood visit to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida *the (many) differences between astronomy and astrology *the magic of seeing Saturn's rings for the first time *whether or not to fund space exploration *the value of knowing more about space *why everyone should just look up and ponder

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Episode 12: Natural curiosity through an Indigenous lens

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/04/27

In what ways are the land and water shaped by children's questions? How can educators light a fire of inspiration in their learners? Why do many Indigenous teachings lend themselves so well to inquiry-based learning? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *adopting a framework that challenges people to think without being prescriptive *the flow of knowledge in Anishinaabe learning *Natural Curiosity's four-branch framework and the accompanying Indigenous lens *how children can ask

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50:38

Episode 11: Teaching about climate change

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/04/17

What does effective climate change education (CCed) look like? What role does outdoor learning play in it? How has the field changed over the past thirty years? What is the "new kid on the block" in CCed? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *the shift in environmental education from teaching issues to teaching core concepts *how the collective understanding of climate change has evolved since the early 1990s *developmentally appropriate education *teaching about the economic

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55:29

Episode 10: Take Me Outside

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/03/28

What is it like running across Canada in nine months? How can outdoor learning become an inherent part of K–12 education? What roles does digital technology play in outdoor learning? Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *insights from Colin's 7600-km run across Canada to promote outdoor learning *how Take Me Outside came to be *when digital technology enhances and hinders learning *developing resiliency from time spent outside *looking at use of tech in school with a critical

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56:58

Episode 09: Messy maths and dirty teaching

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/02/18

Why do we have to jump through hoops just to take classes outside? What are the systemic barriers to outdoor learning? How can an outdoor "classroom" function as a leveler? These are three of the core questions we discussed with Juliet Robertson of Creative STAR Learning. Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *Juliet's unlikely path to outdoor learning *the sagas behind her two books, Messy Maths and Dirty Teaching *supply teaching adventures (and misadventures) *cross-curricular

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51:34

Episode 08: Water insights from the headwaters to the...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2022/01/10

What would water tell us if it could talk? How can each of us strengthen our relationship with the waterways and water bodies near our homes? Our special guests from Ocean Wise and Water Rangers joined us to discuss these questions and more, as we covered as much territory as Canada has coastline (well, maybe not that much...). Here's what else we dove into in this Earthy Chat: *need-to-know facts about salt water and freshwater *the disconnection many people have with water and how this can be

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44:51

Episode 07: Playing in the muck, art activities, and...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2021/11/29

Friend of the show Gillian Judson was joined by artist Adelle Caunce for this lively discussion. Adelle's newest creation, the book Playing in the Muck and Other Art Activities, was designed to accompany Gillian's book, A Walking Curriculum. Here's a taste of what we covered in this Earthy Chat: *appreciating the underappreciated creatures (of the muck, soil, and ocean depths) *experiencing nature through an artist's eyes *re-assessing what we mean by "value" *using imaginative and ecological

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48:41

Episode 06: Reconnecting with the land through a...

Earthy Chats Podcast ·

2021/11/16

The new children's book Sila and the Land was co-authoured by Ariana Roundpoint, Shelby Angalik, and Lindsay Dupré — each from a different Indigenous community. Ariana joined Ian and Jade for this Earthy Chat. Here's a preview of what they discussed: *finding common ground among Indigenous Nations *moving away from a "take-everything" mindset *reconnecting with the land and water *re-learning how to listen to the land and water in a noisy world that's always "on" *distilling big ideas into a

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