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Hoorf! Radical Care in a Late-Capitalist Heckscape

Exhausted, burned out, and isolated in your chaotic life? Self-care isn’t enough. Hoorf! Podcast host Elle Billing is a disabled artist and caregiver on the other side of burnout. In each episode, Elle and her guests discuss the challenges of living compassionately with honesty and humor. Honoring Angela Davis’ definition of the word radical – that “grasping at the root” – we are digging at the roots of systemic problems in a conversational format, getting to know our neighbors, and using creative

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40:14

Elle and Ricki's super secret solstice swap

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2025/12/22

Send us a textElle Billing and Ricki Cummings celebrate their annual holiday episode, filled with unexpected questions and amusing side journeys. Elle and Ricki each share about the future directions of their creative endeavors. They explore the idea of starting their own religion, with Ricki torn between a humanist approach, or one based in dog-based intercession to a higher power. Elle tells a meandering story about a favorite snack food, and Ricki dishes on her Color of the Year.Links to connect

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39:58

a global journey from missionary to deconstructing...

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2025/12/08

Send us a textElle hosts Katie Bjärgvide, a former missionary and US expat living in Sweden. Katie discusses her journey from evangelical Christianity to deconstructing her faith, influenced by events like Trump's election and choosing to accept her transgender brother. She shares her experiences raising neurodivergent children in Sweden, her struggles with burnout, and her transition to a creative career. Katie emphasizes the importance of self-care, creativity, and adapting to new challenges

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48:49

"My kids are pretty extraordinary people!" storytime...

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2025/11/24

Send us a textElle hosts Kristina Leader a progressive woman in Idaho. Kristina's shares stories of her neurodivergent family in their various pursuits, including D&D, STEM, music, wrestling, art, and writing. Kristina emphasizes the importance of connection and community, creating safe spaces in a conservative small town, her love of the local library, and her role as a supportive parent and Dungeon Master for a local D&D club.Links to work referenced, as well as all other resource

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41:38

salutogenesis: anti-urgency, trauma-informed UX, and...

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2025/11/10

Send us a textNote: This episode contains swearing.Elle Billing hosts Wolfe Erikson, a queer and disabled civic technology designer and somatic coach. Wolfe discusses their work on Medicare.gov, emphasizing trauma-informed methodologies and participatory design. They highlight the complexities of healthcare design, including the challenges of making healthcare technologies accessible. Wolfe also shares their journey into somatics, explaining its focus on body-based approaches and the importance of

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34:02

Able: the Piano Recital; interrogating virtuosity...

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2025/10/27

Send us a textElle hosts Jaci Rasmussen, a pianist and educator living with lupus. Jaci discusses the piano suite project "Able" with composer Elijah Culp. Jaci emphasizes the importance of redefining success and virtuosity in the context of disability. She also highlights her journey with Alexander Technique and the benefits of slowing down and adapting to her body's needs.Links to Jaci’s work, as well as all other resource links, are **in the full show notes at

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42:44

"an open relationship with time;" crip time and crip...

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2025/10/13

Send us a textContent note: this episode contains discussion of human specimens displayed for public viewingOn this episode, Elle welcomes Car Riegger, a chronically ill and disabled artist from Ann Arbor, Michigan. Riegger is pursuing their MFA, focusing on sculpture in clay and glass to express their experiences with disability. They discuss crip materiality and the display of disabled bodies after a recent research visit to the Mutter Museum. Riegger emphasizes the importance of community and

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29:39

Ari's Army: art, anime, and chosen family with Elle's...

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2025/05/26

Send us a textIn this episode, Elle interviews her 12-year-old niece, Ari. Ari shares a little about her art-making and how she shares her work with friends and family. She gushes about being an Anime Geek Girl and her love for "My Hero Academia.” The ultimate hype-friend, Ari spends a lot of time talking about how much each of her friends means to her. With a mix of middle school wit and sharp insight, Ari dials in on the importance of chosen family and a robust support network.Links to all

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38:26

have pain, will travel; hiking the Black Hills with...

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2025/05/12

Send us a textElle Billing hosts long-time friend Marcus Heerdt, an adventurer, photographer, and award-winning newspaper reporter from Hot Springs, South Dakota. Marcus shares his experience with brucellosis, a rare foodborne illness he contracted in Spain in 2008, which led to chronic pain and damage to his joints and digestive system. He discusses his writing, landscape photography, and hiking adventures, and how he uses his connection to the natural world to mitigate the daily grind of life with

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42:36

SPACORE: wellness capitalism, horror medicine, and...

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2025/04/28

Send us a textElle Billing hosts Serena JV Elston, a transdisciplinary sculptor and fellow recipient of the 2024 Midwest Award for Artists with Disabilities. They dig into Serena’s curatorial project, SPACORE, which interrogates wellness capitalism within the horror genre. She mentions her upcoming solo show at Andrew Rafacz Gallery in Chicago, set to open July 2025, which explores the body's relationship to power structures through ecology, post-humanism, and disability.Links to SPACORE, to

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45:06

"my art process is me, reaching out to myself." a...

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2025/04/14

Send us a textContent note: this episode contains brief discussions of high-control religious abuseElle hosts poet and artist Erika Goveia, who discusses her upbringing in a conservative evangelical church and her deconstruction, and her creative process which involves processing her past. Elle and Erika emphasize the importance of self-acceptance and breaking the cycle of harmful parenting practices, and the healing power of artistic expression.Links to connect with Erika, and all other resource

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45:27

notes from a queer cripple: how to cultivate queer...

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2025/03/24

Send us a textContent note: this episode contains swearing and discussions of sexElle hosts Andrew Gurza, three-time guest and disability awareness consultant. Andrew discusses his new book, Notes from a Queer Cripple, set to release on April 21, which explores queer and disabled joy. He shares his journey of writing the book, the challenges of balancing academic and community-based tone, and his hopes for its impact. The conversation highlights the importance of representation and the complexities

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50:19

centering our human-ness in technological pursuits,...

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2025/03/10

Send us a textElle Billing interviews Dr. Damien P. Williams, an assistant professor in philosophy and data science at UNC Charlotte, about the philosophy of contemporary (and future!) technologies. Dr. Williams discusses the Super Crip narrative,the importance of centering marginalized experiences in tech development, and the implications of accessible technology, highlighting the need for genuine engagement and ethical considerations in tech design. And yes, they even discuss the elephant in the

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42:03

entropy is a thing; shifting expectations and...

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2025/02/24

Send us a textElle sits down to talk with artist Ryan Barnes, whom she knows from the Spoonie Studio virtual gatherings. They dig into Ryan’s art practice, and he shares the ongoing development of the "void" series, which explores themes of disconnection and change. Ryan also talks about balancing his art with his role as a parent and student, and the impact of his service dog, BlackBerry, on his work. Links to connect with Ryan, and all other resource links, are in the full show notes at

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40:35

Opposite Day! Ricki interviews Elle about One True Thing

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2025/02/10

Send us a textIn this Bizarro Backwards Opposite-Day episode, Ricki and Elle switch places, and Elle is in the hot seat, answering the questions they usually ask their guests. Despite coming down off a multiday migraine and the word salad that accompanies it, Elle shares how her disability shapes her art practice, why she cherishes her community of Spoonie artists, and why she’s so focused on asking everyone about their One True Thing.Links to join Ricki’s and Elle’s creative newsletters for all the

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40:40

The Failure Experiment: cyberpunk and the art of...

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2025/01/27

Send us a textElle Billing and Ricki Cummings discuss their recent experiences and creative work, using this episode to announce their collaborative project: Ricki talks about her new book-length poem, "The Failure Experiment," and Elle reveals her new series of paintings inspired by Ricki’s queer cyberpunk poetry and her own personal experiences of chronic illness. As they grapple with the current political climate, putting finishing touches on their work, they emphasize the importance of

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49:35

it takes a village to break a spine: the unexpected...

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2025/01/13

Send us a textContent note: this episode contains swearing, and discussion of medical traumaElle Billing hosts Jordan Thornquest, a musician and game developer on the first episode of 2025. They exchange memories of Jordan's 2020 car accident in Twin Falls, which aside from being an insurance nightmare, left him with a spinal injury and a long recovery. Jordan reflects on how the accident changed his perspective on disability, pain, self-care, and creativity. Elle and Jordan illuminate the

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45:28

all I want for Christmas is Moo (Deng), with Ricki...

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2024/12/23

Send us a textIn their annual "let's just chat" episode of Hoorf, Elle Billing and Ricki Cummings weave together stories about navigating life with chronic illness, from the profound to the ridiculous. Between tales of Winkie the dog's adventures and updates from her dad's community Christmas concert, the conversation takes a more serious turn as they discuss food allergies, with Elle processing her emotional response to a Disney influencer's tragic death from a severe

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46:29

whole family mindset magic, with occupational...

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2024/12/09

Send us a textOn this episode of Hoorf, host Elle Billing welcomes Ivan Hardcastle, an occupational therapist whose 15-year journey led him to make a radical choice - stepping away from a high-stress, high-volume clinical partnership to create a private practice centered on quality care. These days, Ivan runs an innovative online coaching program helping parents and school staff support children with emotional regulation and sensory needs. The conversation takes a creative turn as Ivan shares his

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47:16

support and success are not mutually exclusive; why...

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2024/11/25

Send us a textContent note: this episode discusses experiences with mental illnessOn this episode, we meet Virginia Townsend, the artist behind the vibrant creations of Bunnie Rabbitte, whose story illustrates how support and success are not mutually exclusive. In a wide-ranging conversation about art and mental health, Virginia opened up about the daily reality of creating while living with PTSD. Like many artists navigating disability, Virginia's journey includes managing sleep disorders and

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43:52

Q4Q: becoming the leader you need and want, with...

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2024/11/11

Send us a textContent note: this episode contains swearing, discussions of death and griefOn this episode, Elle welcomes Joris Grey, a leadership coach working with queer entrepreneurs to build businesses that align with their values. Joris shares his perspective on unlearning toxic masculinity, and how that journey shapes his approach to authentic leadership. We explore the wisdom of listening to our bodies (even when capitalism tells us not to), and dive into the real challenges of being visibly

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