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Leaving Eden Podcast

Leaving Eden LLC

An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie"s cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other

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1:00:28

Christian-ese translated to English: Duggar Family...

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/04/07

In this episode, Gavi proves how much he has learned about fundie culture by showing Sadie his INSPIRED AND PRESERVED translation from Fundie/Christian-ese to plain English of the Duggar Jail Emails that were obtained by Lilly Archive using the FOIA. Sadie then provides additional cultural context as well as a few things from these emails that stood out to her.In the extended Patreon edition of this episode, we discuss Amy Duggar King's April Fools Day post in which she joked about interviewing Bill

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47:08

Caldwells Vs. Duggars? The Caldwells raise funds for...

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2026/04/05

In this episode, we discuss the GoFundMe that Paul Caldwell (Kendra Duggar's father) posted which has since been deleted.All of the sources for this episode are located here, on this post on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/posts/caldwells-vs-for-15483020400:00 - Intro 04:12 - Disclaimers 05:13 - The Caldwells' latest moves 08:00 - GoFundMe taken down 08:35 - We have so many questions 10:55 - The Caldwells are not IBLP 12:41 - Sadie's connection with the Caldwells 14:49 - Thank you to our

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43:28

The Jail Emails/Joe Duggar Pleads Not Guilty: Our...

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/04/03

Today we discuss the latest developments in the Joe Duggar case. Duggar has pleaded Not Guilty to all charges in Florida, has been released on a $600,000 bond, and (we think) is back in Arkansas.YouTuber Lily Archive has released numerous phone calls as well as emails sent to Joe Duggar while he was in jail in Arkansas. She obtained this material using a FOIA request (she has shown provenance). These are extremely telling. We give our impressions on this material, especially focused on the

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1:04:12

Shiny Happy People Star joins us to talk about Duggar...

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/03/31

Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general.These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases

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56:22

Kendra Duggar charged/Duggar family statements/Will...

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/03/24

In this episode, we discuss the continuing fallout from Joseph Duggar's arrest for child molestation, including Kendra Duggar's Child Endangerment/False Imprisonment charges, our breakdown of these charges, family statements made by/on behalf of Duggar family members, and our speculation on whether or not this case will go to trial.In the extended patreon edition, we discuss in greater detail our impressions of Amy Duggar after our (limited) interactions with her when she was a guest on our show

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54:04

Joe Duggar has been arrested

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/03/20

n this special episode, we discuss the charges filed against former 19 Kids and Counting/Counting On star Joseph Duggar. Duggar is accused of committing Lewd and Lascivious Behavior, involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He has been taken into custody. The alleged molestation occurred some time in 2020. In this episode we discuss everything that we currently know, everything we don't know, the circumstances of the abuse, and then we answer listener questions.This episode contains

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45:04

What do they teach at Cult College?

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/03/17

In today's episode, Sadie tells us all about Hyles-Anderson College, the fundamentalist cult bible college that she enrolled in as an 18-year-old. We discuss the reason why a cult would want to have a college, the history of the school, what gets taught in classes at Hyles-Anderson, the school rules, and the predatory financial programs the school uses to keep students from dropping out or leaving.02:00 - What do they teach you at cult college?02:30 - Marriage and Motherhood degree02:52 - Join the

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39:42

5 ultra-specific rules of Christian Fundamentalism...

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2026/03/10

Sadie takes us through the five categories of Crazy Fundie Rules, and how these rules affect your life when you are trying to live by them. Some of them have biblical justifications, some of them are completely made up by some pastor somewhere and ended up being widely adopted. Fundie pastors use these rules as a way to physically and psychologically control church members, and they can be quite draconian.What are the most arbitrary rules that your church had growing up? Let us know in the

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48:38

Are we living in a SIMULATION?

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2026/03/03

Today, Gavi FINALLY gets to talk about his favorite topic, Jean Beaudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," which explains Hyperreality. "The Matrix" film is allegorical to the postmodern condition of Hyperreality. We discuss examples of simulacra, Hyperreality, and the history of how we (in the western canon) came to view the world this way. We discuss simulated reality as it relates to christian fundamentalism and the US.If you have any thoughts, opinions, or questions about this topic (or

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37:42

Do we live in a Post-Truth society?

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/02/24

In this episode, Sadie takes us through two different theories of truth, and what it means for a statement to be true or not true. In using these two theories of truth, we discuss how anti-trans crusaders like Matt Walsh or Christian fundamentalist biblical literalists use bait-and-switch tactics to distort what their followers perceive as the truth. These bad faith arguments can be avoided by avoiding circular logic traps.00:00 - Intro00:47 - Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast is where the bonus

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57:46

The Insane Reason Why Fundies ONLY Use The King James...

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2026/02/17

In this episode, Sadie takes us through the bizarre reasoning behind Fundamentalism's stipulation that the King James version is NOT ONLY the "best" version of the bible in English, but that it is actually not a translation, but God's own words, just as valid as the original texts in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. We also discuss how this belief leads to other fundie beliefs like quiverfull, and women wearing only skirts and no pants.Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast!Join our

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53:40

The Purity Culture Fundie Dating Manual MORE EXTREME...

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/02/14

In this episode, we review "Dating With a Purpose," which is an IFB purity culture dating manual targeted at teens and young adults in the IFB and at Hyles-Anderson college. It was written by Jack Schaap, who later went to prison for sexually abusing a child who was a student at the high school where he was chaplain.We also discuss Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family's appearance in the Epstein files, and why abusers love purity culture so much.Support the show by going to

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1:01:12

Winning McDonald's to Jesus

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/02/10

Sadie Carpenter tells us all about Soul Winning, the IFB practice of knocking on doors in order to witness to people and to get them to join your church. She tells us stories of trapping kids in the McDonald's PlayPlace, getting guns pulled on her, and we read through a soulwinning textbook that teaches how to witness to a Jewish person! We hope you enjoy!Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit

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44:24

Fundies YEARN for the year 100 AD

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2026/02/03

In this episode, we discuss what the early church actually was, and how Christianity was formed as much by Paul as it was by Jesus.Citations for claims about the authorship of the bible:Tabor, J. D. (2013). Paul and Jesus: how the Apostle transformed Christianity. Simon & Schuster.Tabor, J. (2025, June 10). The quest for the historical paul. Biblical Archaeology Society.

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58:18

What Is Fundamentalism?

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/01/27

In this episode we discuss the history of (small f) fundamentalism and how it became (capital F) Fundamentalism that we see today.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit

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54:18

How Do Cults Work?

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/01/20

In this reintroduction episode, we discuss how cults work with examples from Sadie's life.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to

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1:24:40

The Mary Cosby Jim Jones Connection (Mary Cosby Part 3)

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/01/12

In Part 3 of our series on Mary Cosby, we discuss the theological reasons why people believe that she is god. We discuss the direct link between Mary Cosby and Jim Jones. We also discuss the sketchiness surrounding the businesses owned by her and her church, the church's organization, and how its hard turn into a coercive cult was inevitable.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit

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1:43:00

We Were Cut Out of the Mary Cosby documentary (Mary...

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2026/01/05

In the fall of 2024, we contributed to a streaming documentary focused on Faith Temple Pentacostal church in Salt Lake City Utah, and its first lady, Mary Cosby, who is a cast member on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. This documentary was released by TLC as "Cult of the Real Housewife." Our contributions to this documentary were not included, and we believe that this documentary did a disservice to its audience by not going into detail on the SHOCKING things that we found.Stay tuned for Part

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1:45:30

Watch Night 2025

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2025/12/29

In this episode, we are joined by Dinah House-Fire and Chad Harris to give out the Gifts of the Spirit awards! This awards are based on the gifts of the holy spirit and given to individuals who embodied these gifts throughout the year. These awards include: The Wisdom Award The Knowledge Award The Faith Award The Healing Award The Miracles Award The Prophecy Award The Discernment Award The Tongues Award The Interpretation Award! We hope you guys had a good time with us this year and we can't wait to

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1:01:12

Ep. 259: The Future Of The Pod

Leaving Eden Podcast ·

2025/12/15

In this episode, we discuss the future of the podcast, we read a letter from a listener who was doxxed by Libs of Tiktok, and we discuss the latest study about religious observance in the United States from Gavi's favorite Pew Researchhttps://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/12/08/religion-holds-steady-in-america/Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit

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