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PODCAST

Out of the Main

Tom Nixon and John Nixon

“Out of the Main” is a podcast celebrating one of the most proficient and accomplished eras of musicianship and studio production, including yacht rock, west coast AOR, and related sophisticated music from the 1970s and 80s. “Out of the Main” was launched by two of the era"s biggest fans—both musicians themselves—who, like a growing wave of aficionados all around the world, have been exploring the history, the enjoyment, and now the future potential of the West Coast sound, even as it continues to

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00:36:42

E23.23: The Doobie Bounce

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2023/07/06

John and Tom finally get around to discussing and analyzing the famed “Doobie Bounce.” A little bit of music theory (not too nerdy!), a bit of dissection of the elements, a short trip around the harbor looking for examples, and a whole lot of adulation and adoration. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Yacht or Nyacht? The Official Yachtski Scale Playlist of songs

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00:56:40

Episode 23.22: Tris’s Top Ten Tom-Tom Ticklers

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2023/06/29

The fabulous Tris Imboden returns to the podcast to run his list of his favorite and most influential drummers. Tune in to see who won the side-action bet between John and Tom, and learn all about the drummers who have influenced the drum stylings and approach of one yacht rock’s favorite drummers. Prior conversations with Tris: Tris Imboden Interview the first Album Focus: Kenny Loggins’s “High Adventure” with special guest Tris Imboden High Adventure, Side B Lightning Round: Found at Sea

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00:46:42

Episode 23.21: Yacht on the Rocks, with Straight No...

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2023/06/22

Jasper and Jerome — 2/9ths of the a capella supergroup Straight No Chaser — join the podcast to discuss the motivation, the inspiration, and the process they went through to explore the harbors of yacht rock on their most recent record release, dropping June 21st. DYK: The album was by Nicholas Niespodziani of Yacht Rock Revue? It’s fantastic! We ran the podcast off the clef, got into a little treble, and hit all the high notes. Climb aboard the yacht on the rocks, y’all! And check out the

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00:46:36

Episode 23.20: Artist Exploration: Maxus

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2023/06/15

Listener Jorn and his son Mikael join the podcast to discuss a far-too-under-the-radar artist, Maxus. Though their discography includes just one major album release, the members represent a collection of some of the era’s most sought-after session players. Where they came from, and what they go on to do, is the stuff of legends. Let’s let Jorn and Michael take us to school! Video Companion Content: Check out Mikael playing with the LA Studio Ensemble at Berklee And check out the original

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00:53:01

Episode 23.19: Marc Jordan, Waiting for the Sun to Rise

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2023/06/08

Marc Jordan returns to the podcast to talk about his newest album release, “Waiting for the Sun to Rise,” a jazzy collection of originals and cover songs (some may surprise you!). The beautiful collaboration with Lou Pamonti shows off Marc’s jazz and songwriting chops. We, of course, explore the yacht rock era of Marc’s catalogue, and so much more, including Marc’s foray into original paintings. Check out our prior interview with Marc here, which covers more of the Blue Desert and West Coast

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00:39:11

Episode 23.18: Where Were They Then, Paul Carrack

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2023/06/01

A distant cousin to “Where Are They Now?,” John and Tom take a tour through the post-yacht-rock career of artists who once sailed in the smooth waters off the West Coast, in a convention they’ve dubbed, “Where Were They Then?” We kick it off with one Paul Carrack, who yacht rockers might know best as the lead singer of Ace (certified track, “How Long”), who would later go on to be a featured voice and player in Squeeze as well as Mike + The Mechanics...but so much more! How much more? Tune in to

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00:37:07

Episode 23.17: Lightning Strikes Twice

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2023/05/25

Can lightning strike twice? Well, duh! Of course it can. And that’s just what Tom and John will do this week on the podcast: a double dose of our standard lightning round. It’s just as groovy as Double Mint Gum! Tune in to find out whether this episode will also feature a lightning round! Whoa. Meta... Lightning Round x 2: Found at Sea x 2 Buried Treasures x 2 Off the Map x 2 References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Yacht or Nyacht

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00:49:08

Episode 23.16: Emm Gryner, from "Summerlong" to...

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2023/05/18

Emm Gryner, an artist with roots dating back to the mid-90s, joins the podcast to take John and Tom on a journey through a career that found its way to the harbors of modern yacht rock in 2023. Joined by lyrical collaborator Michael Holmes, Emm generously shares her storied history — which includes a long run with David Bowie — her musical approach, and her perspective on why she feels “at home” on the West Coast. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and

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00:38:25

Episode 23.15: The Many Traveled Rhodes

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2023/05/11

What would yacht rock be without the Rhodes electric piano? Or, put another way, what would the Rhodes be without yacht rock? John and Tom examine the history, the technology, the evolution and the allure of the Fender Rhodes — a hallmark of the West Coast sound. We compare and contrast with the Wurlitzer and the Yamaha DX7 that, by all accounts, replaced the Rhodes for a bit. Recommended Listening/Viewing: The History of Rhodes - Rhodes Music Jay Graydon’s Official Web Site: The Famous E

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00:40:55

Episode 23.14: Ole Borud and Lars-Erik Dahle

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2023/05/04

Beloved fire keepers Ole Borud and Lars-Erik Dahle (bassist for Ole) join John and Tom to discuss their musical journey and eventual foray into the West Coast waters. With influences and a catalogue that includes everything from metal to R&B and from jazz to funk, Ole’s unique blend of upbeat genres is irresistible and unmistakable. His latest single features none other than Bill Champlin, Jay Graydon and Michael Omartian — true legends of yacht rock and music generally! Mentioned and

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00:43:07

Episode 23.13: CoMFY: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

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2023/04/27

Thanks to Listener Dennis, the yacht rock community has a new acronym to bandy about: CoMFY! “Commonly Mistaken for Yacht (Rock)!” are those songs that we repeatedly see being identified as yacht rock but in reality are anything but. This week the guys examine the concept of CoMFY and run through a number of songs to debate which are the good misses, which are the bad misses, and which songs are just plain ugly when mistaken for yacht rock. In the process, we come up with a few new acronyms of our

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00:49:55

Episode 23.12: Steve Porcaro Interview, Part 2

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2023/04/20

John and Tom welcome back Steve Porcaro for Part 2 of our interview with the legendary synthesizer virtuoso from Toto and countless session gigs. We pick back up from our discussion of the Rosanna solo to learn some surprising details about the synth parts in Africa. Plus, the truth behind the fabled serendipity that led to Michael Jackson’s “Human Nature,” a stint with Yes, and why Steve loves what he’s doing today. That and so much more, as we look back from yesteryear and track forward all the

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00:56:03

Episode 23.11: Steve Porcaro

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2023/04/13

John and Tom welcome the legendary Steve Porcaro to the podcast for a special two-part interview. Best known as synthesizer virtuoso from Toto and frequent session keyboards player, Steve shares what’s keeping him busy these days, some fantastic stories from yesteryear, and a few fun facts that even the biggest Toto/Porcaro fans might not know. Come back for Part 2 of our conversation with Steve Porcaro next week! Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and

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00:44:25

Episode 23.10: The March to Madness Concludes!

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2023/04/06

At long lost, the March to Madness concludes, and one Steely Dan song will be dubbed the maddest of the mad science! Count ‘em down from the Hey Sixteen to the Fan-Favorite Four...and ultimately to the “one shining moment” when we crown our winner. This week’s guest bracketologist: Tune in to hear what connection “Listener Mike” has to the podcast! Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify Yacht Rock

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00:44:11

Episode 23.9: March to Madness with Inside MusiCast,...

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2023/03/30

Eddy Cabello and Rick Such of Inside MusiCast return to the podcast for Part 2 of the Second Round of the March to Madness tournament. Time to finalize the “_________” 16. Tune in to see if their collaboration survives a knock-down, drag-out fight over some difficult matchups in which only the maddest survive! (And tune in to hear what we ultimately dub the seminal 16 in this tournament.) Our “brothers from others’ mothers” had so much insight to share that we have to break this round into two

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00:46:23

Episode 23.8: March to Madness, with Inside MusiCast

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2023/03/23

Eddy Cabello and Rick Such of Inside MusiCast rejoin the podcast to help us whittle the March to Madness tournament down to the “_________” 16. Tune in to see if their collaboration survives a knock-down, drag-out fight over some difficult matchups in which only the maddest survive! (And tune in to hear what we ultimately dub the seminal 16 in this tournament.) Our “brothers from others’ mothers” had so much insight to share that we have to break this round into two parts as well. Look for the

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00:53:01

Episode 23.7: March to Madness, Round One Part B

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2023/03/16

Rejoin the March to Madness, as we continue busting brackets with our all Steel Dan tournament (with a dose of solo Fagan thrown in) to see which song emerges as the yacht rock community’s fan favorite. Have you filled out your own brackets yet? Is your pick still alive? This week, it’s Pete Fogel, someone with very close ties to the mad scientists themselves, helping us pick the second side of the four-region field of 64. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References

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00:55:08

Episode 23.6: The March to Madness!

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2023/03/09

The annual Out of the Main tournament is back for a third run. This year, we are busting brackets with all Steel Dan matchups (with a dose of solo Fagan thrown in) to see which song emerges as the yacht rock community’s fan favorite. Fill out your brackets, pick your favorites, and tune in to see how your picks compare against those of our guest selection committee. This week, it’s Ben Montgomery, co-host of the Records Revisited podcast, helping us pick one side of the four-region field of 64. Tip

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00:47:00

Episode 23.5: Who Wore It Best, Vol. 2

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2023/03/02

Back by popular demand! A three-bout card, pitting artists against one another to determine the reigning champion — multiple artists, one song. How would you have scored these title fights? Echoes of Love Doobie Brothers vs. The Pointer Sisters Dancing Tonight Michael Johnson vs. Bill Labounty Tied Up Lee Ritenour vs. Olivia Newton John Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify Yacht Rock

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00:39:05

Episode 23.4: Artist Exploration: Greg Guidry

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2023/02/23

The podcast explores the life, career and catalogue of yacht rock artist Greg Guidry. If you’re familiar with Guidry’s work, you will hopefully join us in appreciation and admiration. His was a life that took many turns, including a tragic ending. If Guidry is new to you, you’ll thank Listener Dave for suggesting we do the ole’ deep dive. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist

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