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That"s So Second Millennium

Paul Giesting, William Schmitt

Taking science AND faith seriously.

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Episode 054 - TSSM Season 2

That"s So Second Millennium ·

2019/04/08

In this episode we roll out a new format for Season 2. We recap Season 1 (April 2018 - March 2019) and the three focus areas of the podcast so far: Discussion of the fundamentals of the question whether it's reasonable to believe in both science and the Catholic Christian faith, and some exploration of particular topics, like the role of geology in the interpretation of the book of Genesis. Review and comments on the speakers at the Society of Catholic Scientists Conference 2018. Interviews with

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Episode 053 - Chris Baglow & Jay Martin: beyond faith...

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2019/03/31

0:00 - The question of relativism vs. hyperrationalism 1:00 - God's love is not a "fact" but, say, hominid ancestry is 1:30 - Tapping into the belief in the rationality of science to bring back belief in reality in faith 2:30 - "Kicking in the back door of relativism" 4:00 - Linkages between theology, philosophy, and science: e.g. logical consistency 5:30 - Effects on the rest of schools that participate in the Science & Religion Initiative 6:30 - Encouragment to integrate, say, history, economics

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Bonus Episode - Patricia Bellm: Compartmentalization...

That"s So Second Millennium ·

2019/03/28

Compartmentalization by students at Notre Dame Bill: ethics as a checklist The Science & Religion Initiative (see Baglow & Martin interview) The need to get the same message in the biology class and in theology class The change in the teachers after a few days in the workshop: divisions fade out It's a challenge having an "athletics" teacher in the program (phys ed)... Yet there are things: doping and respect of the body Patricia believes "you become what you eat" applies to violent video games as

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Episode 052 - Chris Baglow & Jay Martin: the...

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2019/03/25

0:30 - McGrath Institute for Church Life: Science & Religion Initiative outreach to high school teachers to integrate science & faith 2:00 - Gulf Coast Faith Formation Conference (a good time to be away from Notre Dame) 3:00 - Summer seminars: Foundations Notre Dame, Foundations New Orleans, Capstone 4:00 - Foundations ND: lecture based, top scholars in specific disciplines, with workshops 6:00 - Foundations NO: experimental work and discussions 7:00 - Dialogue between science & theology teachers

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Bonus Episode - Patricia Bellm: Bible interpretation

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2019/03/21

The Bible as an instrument of getting to tell people what to do Flood geology and cramming one's ideas into a "literal" reading Adam and the Genome

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Episode 051 - Patricia Bellm: Responsibility and...

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2019/03/18

What do we want to do in this podcast? Goals for the year Values of experience, e.g. Mexico: solar ovens from recycled materials Credit consulting, etc., for exploited women in Mexico The little estate in Mexico Back to credit cards & exploitation of ignorance Responsibility of those to whom much is given Bringing it around to science Career and sacrifice and little deaths Chris, the handicapped man at the ND Center for Social Justice The ethics of "fixing" or preventing Chris from being the way he

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Bonus Episode - Patricia Bellm: Miguel from Mexico

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2019/03/16

The blind man who could see more than his neighbors... asking Patricia about German reunification The industries that used up his sight

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Episode 050 - Craig Lent: decoherence, entropy, and...

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2019/03/11

0:00 - Three issues: entropy, decoherence, Schrodinger vs. Dirac equations 2:30 - Schrodinger uses a non-relativistic Hamiltonian, with a p^2/2m kinetic energy 3:00 - Dirac equation absorbs special relativity by shifting from scalar to spinor field 4:00 - Quantum field theory as a further extension, accommodating fields that include many particles 5:00 - Field Lagrangian and all the particles and interactions in the Standard Model 6:00 - Even "everyday" gravity is in some sense accommodatable in the

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Episode 049 - Craig Lent: physics and humanity

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2019/03/04

0:00 - Introduction 1:00 - The power of physicalism/reductionism: a tremendously powerful method 2:00 - Course on physicalism and Catholicism; Sean Carroll's least hysterical "poetic naturalism" 3:00 - The lack of evidence for "emergence" in the sense of "downward causation" 3:30 - Soft and hard emergence 10:15 - Materialism vs. physicalism and reductionism: philosophical materialism 13:00 - Are human beings exhausted by this account of reality? 14:00 - The break with the mechanical universe of 19th

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Bonus Episode - Patricia Bellm: Marriage & canon law

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2019/02/28

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Episode 048 - Terry Ehrman: God vs. Godzilla, carmen...

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2019/02/25

0:00 - Science is materialist by method, but scientists need not and should not be materialist by philosophy 2:00 - The world must be real and intelligible for science to make sense 3:00 - And faith provides a philosophical basis that allows this to happen 3:30 - Students' testimony on faith and science 4:30 - Removing the faith/science obstacle is only one step on the road toward faith 5:00 - God vs. Godzilla 6:00 - The true God and His use of secondary causes 11:00 - Creation as carmen Dei (song

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Episode 047 - Terry Ehrman: theology and ecology,...

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2019/02/18

0:00 - Introduction 1:00 - Catholic roots 2:00 - Early sense of vocation 4:00 - Lure of biology and ecology, early experiences in the field 9:00 - Swing to doing theology with reference to ecology rather than ecology with reference to theology 11:00 - Intellectual honesty in philosophy, science, theology 13:30 - Science, Creation, Theology course 15:00 - A theology course with a lab component 19:00 - (Fr. Terry loves basswood trees. They were a go-to example of a specific created type of

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Episode 046 - Daniel Hinshaw and the frontier between...

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2019/02/11

I started off this part of the interview by asking Daniel about his own journey through life and faith. His early love was history, despite having a father who was also a doctor and an academic. His interests only turned to medicine after a time in Peru and exposure to brutal poverty, and then like many of us, he drifted into an academic career. Later in life he has been able to return to that original motivation. Daniel and his wife were brought up in the Seventh Day Adventist faith, and still

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Episode 045 - Daniel Hinshaw and the human microcosmos

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2019/02/04

Today we start a two-part series with Daniel Hinshaw, a professor emeritus of surgery at the University of Michigan, who has come to focus on palliative care for the dying. He sees his work as having deep roots in the Christian tradition, and has written on the subject of "kenosis" (the Scriptural concept of "emptying" or "reduction" or "wasting away" that is key to our understanding of the Incarnation and the Passion of Jesus Christ) as a useful concept for understanding our own mortality, at the

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Episode 044 - The Brain and The Pain of Being Human

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2019/01/28

In this episode, we expand on our introduction to the brain by discussing some theories - ranging from well-documented to rather speculative - about the specific structures of the brain that are active (or less active) in situations ranging from autism to depression, stress, and trauma. At the end we spend a few minutes on a preliminary critique of the materialist reductionary attitude ("interpretation" is too grandiose a word for it) toward brain science by many of its practitioners and

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Episode 043 - Introduction to the Brain

That"s So Second Millennium ·

2019/01/21

In this episode, we lay out the basic groundwork for future discussions of the human brain. The brain we humans have apparently evolved in three stages. This can't help but be a tremendous simplification, but it's a commonly encountered statement and seems to have considerable explanatory power. The lowest part of the brain, the brain stem (the medulla, etc.) and the cerebellum, control unconscious processes, most of which we cannot take into conscious control even if we want to. Often this is

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Episode 042 - TSSM in 2019, part 2

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2019/01/14

What sense can we make of the ancient and medieval idea that "the soul is the form of the body" in the light of contemporary neuroscience and psychology? Highlight this idea's differences from Platonic and Cartesian dualism. History of psychology as a discipline. Psychology has not evolved (a) master paradigm(s) that compel the bulk of the field to adhere to them the way that plate tectonics did for geology, Newtonian classical physics and then quantum and relativity did for physics, etc. Peace of

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Episode 041 - TSSM in 2019

That"s So Second Millennium ·

2019/01/07

Themes we'd like to grapple with in the Year of Our Lord, 2019, and beyond: Last year was largely about the intellectual challenge leveled by many against religion, and we will continue talking about that as the podcast moves forward. Paul's mission this year to work through Road to Reality This year we also want to broaden the scope to include places where religion and faith converge, which means we're going to discuss psychology. Looking forward to the SCS conference topic for this coming year:

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Episode 040 - Kirby Runyon: Christian planetary...

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2018/12/31

I had the chance to have an unofficial interview with Kirby Runyon. (Planetary science is a very publicity-heavy field, and planetary scientists often labor under certain constraints regarding their contact with the media. We avoided mentioning his institutional affiliation to emphasize the point that this interview in no way characterizes any official position by his institution. You can find out where he works, and get access to some of his work, via web search if you are curious, and there's a

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Episode 039 - Star of Bethlehem

That"s So Second Millennium ·

2018/12/24

In this episode we try to give a little workshop on thinking for yourself about a thorny passage in the Bible, specifically what we are to make of this star that supposedly influenced the Magi (wizards? astrologers?) from "the east" to come to Jerusalem looking for Jesus. ----more---- Skype had some audio problems for the first few minutes, but it corrected itself after that. Sorry for the poor sound quality there at the beginning. Our first step is to engage in a little exploration of a common

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