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PODCAST

The Out of the Cave Podcast

Lisa Schlosberg

The Out of the Cave Podcast is a resource hosted by Lisa Schlosberg, LMSW, for all who struggle with emotional eating, stress eating, under-eating, overeating, mindless eating, and have a complicated relationship to food, eating, and body image.

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All Episodes

01:14:19

How to Become Unstoppable with Kristi Chaves

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/10/03

Lisa sits down with her own former coach, Kristi, who specializes in helping female CEOs rebalance their lives. Kristi shares how her mindset around her autoimmune disease realigned her life. Lisa gets honest about an area of life she struggled to balance after taking control of her relationship with food, eating, and her body and building a successful business. Topics Include: Abandoning a life where you have to prove Seeing a diagnosis as an opportunity to connect with self Attachment versus

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01:23:47

It's Not About the Food with Abby

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/09/26

Lisa speaks with group coaching alum, Abby. Abby reflects on how normalized and unquestioned toxic fitness and diet culture was in the 80s and 90s, as well as the mental impact of constantly feeling like a failure when the newest plan, diet, or program didn’t end her struggles around food and eating for good. She shares how she used food emotionally and her experience swinging from diet culture to anti-diet culture, to ultimately landing in Out of the Cave’s 14 week group coaching program. Topics

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01:20:52

Turns Out I Have Feelings with Nate

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/09/19

This week, Nate chats with Nate. Nate is an Out of the Cave group coaching alum, who is affectionately known as half of “Nelly,” as he and his wife, Kelly, went through the 14 week program together. Nate dreamed and planned very seriously to be an astronaut and fly fighter jets as a child, and recounts how that dream falling apart led to fifteen years of yo-yo dieting. Topics include: Using food and eating for comfort early on Feeling disconnected to our own bodies Swinging the pendulum from

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00:55:06

You Are Safe with Ivette

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/09/12

Ivette is a chef and a self-professed food lover, and this relatable episode chronicles her journey of yoyo dieting and breaking the cycle of shame around her body. From a very young age, she knew people were looking at her body and judging her body, so there was a lot of pressure in every area to lose weight and diet. As someone who went through both the private coaching and the group program, Ivette has a lot of wisdom to share about her journey with food and body image. Topics include: [2:10] At

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00:47:09

From Resistance to Acceptance with Jade Beall

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/09/05

Jade experienced some very strong gut reactions to hearing Lisa’s podcast for the first time but was able to work through those feeling to recognize what her brain was trying to tell her about herself. In this unplanned episode, they discuss many of the main tenets of TMS work and how people react to things they aren’t ready to hear. Topics include: [3:50] Jade’s history with TMS through the work of Nicole Sachs and Dr. Sarno. Listening to something that makes you really uncomfortable and picking

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00:54:46

The Mind-Body-Soul System with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/08/29

In this episode, we welcome back the amazing Nicole Sachs to dive deeper into the connections of the mind-body-soul system. A powerhouse in the world of TMS (Tension Myositis Syndrome), Nicole has been teaching and leading retreats for years after being mentored by Dr. Sarno himself, who coined the diagnosis after working with many patients suffering from psychosomatic conditions that caused physical symptoms. In addition to her amazing work on her own retreats, Nicole will also be one of our

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00:57:39

Learning from Being Uncomfortable with Amanda

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/08/22

As a child of divorce with an alcoholic father and an abusive mother, Amanda used food from an early age to find the comfort that her home life lacked. Chronic back pain eventually became intense enough that she was taking multiple days off in a row from work and led her to discover John Sarno and Nicole Sachs in the world of TMS study and recovery. Topics include: [2:39] The first decade or so of Amanda’s life. Realizing as an adult that your childhood wasn’t as “normal” as you thought it was and

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01:17:55

Power and Forgiveness with Hannah

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/08/15

Early ulcers as a child led to a lifelong need to control what Hannah ate. Together with Lisa, she takes us through her journey from developing an eating disorder to relapse, pregnancy, exercise addiction, and a devastating back injury. Chronic pain and the work of Nicole Sachs led her to realize she was still using food to replace her feelings and she began the intense work of finding freedom. Topics include: [2:30] A childhood illness and growing up with a sister who modeled were contributors to

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01:17:19

"Intuitive Eating"

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/08/08

At long last, a highly requested topic is discussed on the Out of the Cave pod! This week Lisa talks about intuitive eating and compares the principles set forth in the book of the same title by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch with the idea of truly intuitive, instinctual eating and understanding of yourself as a spiritual being in a physical body. Topics include: [4:06] Belief systems in relation to food and our body. The two different kinds of “intuitive eating” and what it can really mean for

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01:16:58

Turning “I Can’t” Into “I Can” with Sherene

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/08/01

Sherene has been a part of the group coaching program, as well as the alumni aftercare group. Today she shares with us her experience with multiple childhood moves, yo-yo dieting, body dysmorphia, and taking back the power to make decisions in her life. Topics include: [4:25] Sherene’s earliest memories about her body, experiencing a growing awareness of her body and shape. Learning how to be a human being and what society’s acceptable standards are. Feeling out of place as a tween following a big

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01:10:42

Your Body Is Your Friend with Ilona

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/07/25

Ilona found Lisa through the Omega Institute and was so inspired by her journey that she joined the Out of the Cave team after going through group coaching! Today she shares her experience of growing up feeling completely disconnected and dissociated from her body as a result of trauma. Ilona and Lisa discuss when weight loss feels unsafe, the impact of trauma in our relationships with food and our bodies, and allowing yourself to speak your truth. Topics include: [5:40] Food as comfort from a very

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01:18:47

Body, Identity, and Culture with Jen

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/07/18

Jen’s journey began by listening to this very podcast! After going through the group program and aftercare (the alumni group), she’s here on the pod that started it all for her. Jen is a scientist in the field of cancer research, a wife and mom, and she struggled for years with losing and gaining weight until she finally discovered Out of the Cave through a friend. Together, Jen and Lisa discuss the relationship between body, identity, and culture, the journey of allowing and discovering, and how

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01:02:57

Authenticity Over Attachment with Monica

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/07/11

This week we have former client Monica joining us on the pod! She recently completed the 14 week group coaching program and is here today to share more about internalizing the voices of others and how to heal from that. She and Lisa discuss the importance of having a supportive community while doing this work, as well as building an awareness of when you are perpetuating abuse against yourself. Topics include: [2:40] Food and its role in early childhood trauma. The role external figures play in

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00:57:11

Relapse and Recovery Pt. 2

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/07/04

THANK YOU to every single person who took the time to listen to last week’s pod. We received more feedback than ever before, and your texts, emails, comments, and DMs made a huge impression. Sometimes the most important thing is just knowing that you’re not alone, and that your struggle is echoed by so many others around the world. Thank you so much for all your support and kindness, and I hope that you also feel all of the love that our community is putting out into the world. ❤️ Today Lisa

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01:39:20

Relapse and Recovery (Sharing My Own Story)

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/06/27

After a recent upheaval in her life, Lisa experienced a relapse in her relationship with food, dealing with emotions by eating and feeling like she needed food to survive. Despite the intense shame and fear, she was able to use years of doing the work to help herself out of it, but it wasn’t easy. Alé Cardinalle returns to the podcast to interview Lisa about these recent changes in her life, how to deal with intense emotions and fear, and what relapse actually means. Together they connect the

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01:25:19

Self and Spirit with Caroline Lee Dewey

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/06/20

Caroline Lee Dewey is a transformational coach, healer, medium, all around amazing human being, AND one of our amazing guests for the Out of the Cave and Into Your Power Retreat happening in San Diego this September. We are so thrilled to welcome her onto the podcast, where she shares with Lisa and with you her story, the aspects of healing, her definition of spirituality, and so much more. Topics include: [6:00] Meeting each other through the Omega retreat with Nicole Sachs and passing on messages

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01:25:24

Releasing Guilt and Building Self-Trust with Kristen

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/06/13

One of Lisa’s early clients, Kristen is not alone in being unable to recall the early years of her life in relation to food. Under pressure to keep the peace in the family, get good grades, and participate in sports, she turned to food unknowingly as an emotional coping tool. Topics include: [8:20] Kristen was the peace keeper in her family, under an immense amount of pressure to bring home good grades and participate in sports. Food and reading and schoolwork became things she could immerse herself

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01:25:39

Generational Healing and the Power of Being Present...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/06/06

Kathryn has been through every stage of Lisa’s work! Since her first experience in one of Lisa’s workshops to going through the group and now as a current member of the aftercare program, she joins Lisa to discuss her journey through chronic pain, finding joy in movement, and the actual magic of truly feeling your feelings. Topics include: [13:28] After her mother got gastric bypass surgery at the age of 70, Kathryn recognized that she hadn’t meant to pass on a harmful mindset, but after Kathryn’s

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01:22:32

Out of the Cave and Into Your Power with Alison Midollo

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/05/30

We are so excited to welcome back the incomparable Alison Midollo! One of Lisa’s closest friends and collaborators, Alison was on the OOTC pod back in December for the episode Inner Peace (check it out at https://anchor.fm/lisa-schlosberg/episodes/Inner-Peace-with-Alison-Midollo-e1bs785) and is here today to talk some more about the upcoming Out of the Cave and Into Your Power Retreat happening in San Diego CA at the end of September. Topics include: [1:55] Introductions and setting intentions for

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01:24:17

The Intersection of Brain and Body with Eddy Lindenstein

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2022/05/23

Lisa is joined by Eddy Lindenstein, host of The Mind and Fitness Podcast, to talk about control, peace, and the difference between working out because you love what your body can do versus working out because you’ll be terrified if you don’t lose weight. Topics include: [3:08] Eddy describes his background and work with the Mind and Fitness Podcast, which reached episode 226 as of May 19, 2022. Then Eddy and Lisa start his childhood relationship with food. [12:43] After moving from Chico CA to

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