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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

Cloud Security Podcast by Google focuses on security in the cloud, delivering security from the cloud, and all things at the intersection of security and cloud. Of course, we will also cover what we are doing in Google Cloud to help keep our users" data safe and workloads secure. We"re going to do our best to avoid security theater, and cut to the heart of real security questions and issues. Expect us to question threat models and ask if something is done for the data subject"s benefit or just for

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21:33

EP158 Ghostbusters for the Cloud: Who You Gonna Call...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2024/02/05

Guest: Jason Solomon, Security Engineer, Google Topics: Could you share a bit about when you get pulled into incidents and what are your goals when you are? How does that change in the cloud? How do you establish a chain of custody and prove it for law enforcement, if needed? What tooling do you rely on for cloud forensics and is that tooling available to "normal people"? How do we at Google know when it’s time to call for help, and how should our customers know that it’s time? Can I

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25:27

EP157 Decoding CDR & CIRA: What Happens When SecOps...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2024/01/29

Guest: Arie Zilberstein, CEO and Co-Founder at Gem Security Topics: How does Cloud Detection and Response (CDR) differ from traditional, on-premises detection and response? What are the key challenges of cloud detection and response? Often we lift and shift our teams to Cloud, and not always for bad reasons, so what’s your advice on how to teach the old dogs new tricks: “on-premise-trained” D&R teams and cloud D&R? What is this new CIRA thing that Gartner just cooked up? Should CIRA

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25:12

EP156 Living Off the Land and Attacking Critical...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2024/01/22

Guest: Sandra Joyce, VP at Mandiant Intelligence Topics: Could you give us a brief overview of what this power disruption incident was about? This incident involved both Living Off the Land and attacks on operational technology (OT). Could you explain to our audience what these mean and what the attacker did here? We also saw a wiper used to hide forensics, is that common these days? Did the attacker risk tipping their hand about upcoming physical attacks? If we’d seen this intrusion

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38:36

EP155 Cyber, Geopolitics, AI, Cloud - All in One Book?

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2024/01/15

Guests: Derek Reveron, Professor and Chair of National Security at the US Naval War College John Savage, An Wang Professor Emeritus of Computer Science of Brown University Topics: You wrote a book on cyber and war, how did this come about and what did you most enjoy learning from the other during the writing process? Is generative AI going to be a game changer in international relations and war, or is it just another tool? You also touch briefly on lethal autonomous weapons systems and

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35:41

EP154 Mike Schiffman: from Blueboxing to LLMs via...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2024/01/08

Guest: Mike Schiffman, Network Security “UTL” Topics: Given your impressive and interesting history, tell us a few things about yourself? What are the biggest challenges facing network security today based on your experience? You came to Google to work on Network Security challenges. What are some of the surprising ones you’ve uncovered here? What lessons from Google's approach to network security absolutely don’t apply to others? Which ones perhaps do? If you have to explain the

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28:41

EP153 Kevin Mandia on Cloud Breaches: New Threat...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/12/18

Guest: Kevin Mandia, CEO at Mandiant, part of Google Cloud Topics: When you look back, what were the most surprising cloud breaches in 2023, and what can we learn from them? How were they different from the “old world” of on-prem breaches? For a long time it’s felt like incident response has been an on-prem specialization, and that adversaries are primarily focused on compromising on-prem infrastructure. Who are we seeing go after cloud environments? The same threat actors or not? Could

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26:03

EP152 Trust, Security and Google's Annual...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/12/11

Guest: Michee Smith, Director, Product Management for Global Affairs Works, Google Topics: What is Google Annual Transparency Report and how did we get started doing this? Surely the challenge of a transparency report is that there are things we can’t be transparent about, how do we balance this? What are those? Is it a safe question? What Access Transparency Logs are and if they are connected to the report –other than in Tim's mind and your career? Beyond building the annual

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26:06

EP151 Cyber Insurance in the Cloud Era: Balancing...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/12/04

Guest: Monica Shokrai, Head Of Business Risk and Insurance For Google Cloud Topics: Could you give us the 30 second run down of what cyber insurance is and isn't? Can you tie that to clouds? How does the cloud change it? Is it the case that now I don't need insurance for some of the "old school" cyber risks? What challenges are insurers facing with assessing cloud risks? On this show I struggle to find CISOs who "get" cloud, are there insurers and underwriters who get it? We recently

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26:17

EP150 Taming the AI Beast: Threat Modeling for Modern...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/11/27

Guest: Dr Gary McGraw, founder of the Berryville Institute of Machine Learning Topics: Gary, you’ve been doing software security for many decades, so tell us: are we really behind on securing ML and AI systems? If not SBOM for data or “DBOM”, then what? Can data supply chain tools or just better data governance practices help? How would you threat model a system with ML in it or a new ML system you are building? What are the key differences and similarities between securing AI and

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28:37

EP149 Canned Detections: From Educational Samples to...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/11/20

Guests: John Stoner, Principal Security Strategist, Google Cloud Security Dave Herrald, Head of Adopt Engineering, Google Cloud Security Topics: In your experience, past and present, what would make clients trust vendor detection content? Regarding “canned”, default or “out-of-the-box” detections, how to make them more production quality and not merely educational samples to learn from? What is more important, seeing the detection or being able to change it, or both? If this is about

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29:44

EP148 Decoding SaaS Security: Demystifying Breaches,...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/11/12

Guest: Adrian Sanabria, Director of Valence Threat Labs at Valence Security, ex-analyst Topics: When people talk about “cloud security” they often forget SaaS, what should be the structured approach to using SaaS securely or securing SaaS? What are the incidents telling us about the realistic threats to SaaS tools? Is the Microsoft 365 breach a SaaS breach, a cloud breach or something else? Do we really need CVEs for SaaS vulnerabilities? What are the least understood aspects of

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22:51

EP147 Special: 2024 Google Cloud Security Forecast...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/11/08

Guest: Kelli Vanderlee, Senior Manager, Threat Analysis, Mandiant at Google Cloud Topics: Can you really forecast threats? Won’t the threat actors ultimately do whatever they want? How can clients use the forecast? Or as Tim would say it, what gets better once you read it? What is the threat forecast for cloud environments? It says “Cyber attacks targeting hybrid and multi-cloud environments will mature and become more impactful“ - what does it mean? Of course AI makes an appearance as

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24:27

EP146 AI Security: Solving the Problems of the AI...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/11/05

Guest: Wei Lien Dang, GP at Unusual Ventures Topics: We have a view at Google that AI for security and security for AI are largely separable disciplines. Do you feel the same way? Is this distinction a useful one for you? What are some of the security problems you're hearing from AI companies that are worth solving? AI is obviously hot, and as always security is chasing the hotness. Where are we seeing the focus of market attention for AI security? Does this feel like an area that's

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20:36

EP145 Cloud Security: Shared Responsibility, Shared...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/10/29

Guest: Jay Thoden van Velzen, Strategic Advisor to the CSO, SAP Topics: What are the challenges with shared responsibility for cloud security? Can you explain "shared" vs "separated" responsibility? In your article, you mention “shared faith”, we have “shared fate”, but we never heard of shared faith. What is this? Can you explain? What about the cloud models (SaaS, PaaS, IaaS), how does this sharing model differ? While at it, what is cloud, really? [yes, we really did ask this!]

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EP144 LLMs: A Double-Edged Sword for Cloud Security?...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/10/23

Guest: Kathryn Shih, Group Product Manager, LLM Lead in Google Cloud Security Topics: Could you give our audience the quick version of what is an LLM and what things can they do vs not do? Is this “baby AGI” or is this a glorified “autocomplete”? Let’s talk about the different ways to tune the models, and when we think about tuning what are the ways that attackers might influence or steal our data? Can you help our security listener leaders have the right vocabulary and concepts to reason

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25:58

EP143 Cloud Security Remediation: The Biggest Headache?

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/10/16

Guests: Tomer Schwartz, Dazz CTO Topics: It seems that in many cases the challenge with cloud configuration weaknesses is not their detection, but remediation, is that true? As far as remediation scope, do we need to cover traditional vulnerabilities (in stock and custom code), configuration weaknesses and other issues too? One of us used to cover vulnerability management at Gartner, and in many cases the remediation failures [on premise] were due to process, not technology, breakdowns

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32:46

EP142 Cloud Security Podcast Ask Me Anything #AMA 2023

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/10/09

Host: Stephanie Wong, Product Manager, Google Cloud Guests (yes, really, we are the guests!): Anton Chuvakin Tim Peacock Topics: Could you tell us how you ended up in security? What was the moment you realized that Cloud security was different from well, regular, security? Anton is always asking this “3AM test”, where did that come from? How do you source topics for the podcast? What advice would you give to folks who are interested in getting into security? … and other fun

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25:28

EP141 Cloud Security Coast to Coast: From 2015 to...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/10/02

Guest: Jeremiah Kung, Global Head of Information Security, AppLovin Topics: Before we dive into all of the awesome cloud migrations you’ve experienced and your learnings there, could we start with a topic of East vs West CISO mentality? We are talking to more and more CISOs who see the cloud as a net win for security. What’s your take on whether the cloud improves security? We talked about doing some “big” cloud migrations, could you talk about what you learned back in 2015 about the

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27:18

EP140 System Hardening at Google Scale: New...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/09/25

Guest: Andrew Hoying, Senior Security Engineering Manager @ Google Topics: What is different about system hardening today vs 20 years ago? Also, what is special about hardening systems at Google massive scale? Can I just apply CIS templates and be done with it? Part of hardening has to be following up with developers after they have un-hardened things – how do we operationalize that at scale without getting too much in the way of productivity? A part of hardening has got to be

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24:15

EP139 What is Chronicle? Beyond XDR and into the Next...

Cloud Security Podcast by Google ·

2023/09/18

Guest: Chris Corde, Sr Director of Product Management - Security Operations, Google Cloud Topics: You cover many products, but let’s focus on Chronicle today. An easy question: Chronicle isn’t an XDR, so what is it? Since you’ve joined the team, what’re you most proud of shipping to clients? Could you share more about the Mandiant acquisition, what’s been a happy surprise and what are you looking forward to making available to customers? Some believe that good security operations

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