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Emerging Form

Christie Aschwanden

Emerging Form is a podcast about the creative process in which a journalist (Christie Aschwanden) and a poet (Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer) discuss creative conundrums over wine. Each episode concludes with a game of two questions in which a guest joins in to help answer questions about the week"s topic. Season one guests include poets, novelists, journalists, a song writer, a circus performer, a sketch artist and a winemaker. emergingform.substack.com

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Episode 62: An Exploration of Poetic Process

Emerging Form ·

2022/03/31

How does a poem emerge? So many ways to do it right, says Rosemerry. But in this episode, we take an intimate and critical look at one poem, “For When People Ask,” and talk about the genesis of the poem, how it changed and transformed, how the metaphors grew and how people responded to it. We also talk about saving first drafts–or not, trusting the process, leaning into uncertainty, letting our creative process be led by honesty, getting our egos out of the way, and, of course, paradox. **For When

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31:47

Episode 61: telling personal stories involving...

Emerging Form ·

2022/03/17

How can we better navigate difficult topics when telling personal stories? In this episode of Emerging Form, we talk with podcasting host Arielle Duhaime-Ross about their podcast episode “My Cousin Baptized My Dead Relatives Into the Mormon Church” which aired on VICE News Reports. We talk about steps they took to understand the story from different perspectives, how the narrative form emerged, how the process itself helped Arielle to arrive at a difficult peace, and why having a storyteller lay out

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32:24

Episode 60: What happens when your creative outlet...

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2022/03/03

Photo of Stéphanie by @steph_stf_photography“Is my career done?” That’s what aerialist Stéphanie Ortega wondered when her touring with Cirque du Soleil abruptly ended at the onset of the pandemic. We speak with her about the fear, anger, and loss of identity in the wake of losing her creative practice–and how she found resilience, purpose, and new ways of pursuing her art before the proverbial show got back on the road. Rosemerry also talks about getting her show back on the road–performing for a

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Episode 59: The neuroscience of creativity with Dr....

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2022/02/17

When you’re actively engaged in creative practice, what’s happening in your brain? We ask research scientist and writer Emily Willingham to talk about the science of creativity. Her clear communication about neurons and cognitive processes open up a new understanding of not only how the brain works but also the three key features of creativity, two kinds of thinking that go into creative process, plus the importance of flexibility, storytelling, openness and awe. The business of Emily’s life has

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Episode 58: Orchestrating a Large Collaboration with...

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2022/02/03

What do you look for in collaborators? How do you find them? Is it better to collaborate with friends? We speak with singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist and film composer Leah Shaw about putting together her full-length album Play Beautifully, a sonic exploration of loss, healing and self-transformation. She talks candidly about the balance between control and collaboration, learning new skills, and learning to trust the input and inspirations of others as she pursued her own passion project

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31:58

Episode 57: How play can fuel creativity with...

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2022/01/20

Image: Catherine, Christie and Rosemerry Feeling stuck or stumped in your creative practice? Maybe what you need is more fun. In this episode we speak with Catherine Price, author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again. Her definition of fun feels utterly apropos of creativity. She defines fun as the spirit of playfulness—in which you engage with no attachment to outcome; connection—in that you share the experience with another; and flow—in that you become so engaged you lose track of time. We

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30:20

Episode 56: New Year 2022

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2022/01/06

What does a new calendar year mean for your creative process? In this episode, Rosemerry and Christie return to their creative goals from last year – did they meet them? They talk about Christie’s annual report model for creatives, about how a magic wand might help you identify your creative goals for 2022, and how they are hoping the form might emerge in the next year. Plus they offer new guiding phrases for thinking about creative process and how Christie’s radio gave her the wisdom she needed for

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Episode 55 bonus: We're writing again!

Emerging Form ·

2021/12/02

In this bonus episode, Christie and Rosemerry read some of the new works they’ve created since the trauma of the last four months.Finding My Friend’s Unwritten Poems, Christie at Last Word On NothingDigging Potatoes, 2021, by RosemerryCondition, by RosemerryPlease note: after we recorded this podcast, we experienced yet another sad event and we need to take a short break to focus on self-care. We will return next month, and when we do, we will have some very exciting news to share. In the meantime,

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27:51

Episode 55: Why do we do this (creative practice)?

Emerging Form ·

2021/11/25

Photo: Photo: Rosemerry and Christie celebrating Rosemerry’s birthday on a recent sleety/snowy day in Telluride.In this episode of Emerging Form, Rosemerry and Christie discuss how their recent traumas affected their creative output and how taking a break from writing ultimately helped their creative process. A quick note: after we recorded this podcast, we were hit with yet another cascade of sadness and we need to take a short break to focus on self-care. We will be back in a few weeks, and when

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37:27

Episode 54: What's at stake, with Jack Ridl

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2021/11/11

Why invest in your creative life? In this episode of Emerging Form, we continue with our Soul Food Series with poet and teacher Jack Ridl. He talks about how our creative endeavors link us to the big history and reconnect us with what really matters. Then he brings us the news of the heart, reading poems from How to Love the World: Poems of Gratitude and Hope. An episode full of inspiration, invitation and devotion--an episode to send you to the canvas or stage or blank page with a renewed sense of

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Episode 53: Reflection with Susan J. Tweit

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2021/10/28

“Learn. Fail. Grow.” That’s part of the creative action plan for award-winning writer and Susan J. Tweit. In this episode of Emerging Form, we continue our Soul Food Series and talk with Susan about the importance of reflection--how writing not only helps us to meet difficult moments, but also helps us to find “deeper levels and better understanding” as time passes. We talk about the process of reflection and how it leads our writing toward the universal. As Susan says, “Without reflection, what’s

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37:41

Episode 52: What does it mean to show up? With Jude...

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2021/10/14

What Does It Really Mean to Show Up? In this episode, we speak with Rosemerry’s mentor and beloved friend Judith Jordan Kalush about how the way we meet our daily life intimately informs our creative practice. Are we listening? Are we distracted? Are we opening? Do we feel our connection to the rest of the world? What are we choosing to tune into? It’s a powerful episode with no platitudes, but with hard-earned deep wisdom that comes from devotion.Jude Jordan Kalush is an unpindownable wonder of a

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Episode 51: Beyond the Binary with Wendy Videlock

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2021/09/30

“In our evolution, we are coming to understand nuances and in betweens are necessary to living a full life,” says poet and painter Wendy Videlock. She quotes F. Scott Fitzgerald: “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless yet be determined to make them otherwise.” In this episode, we continue to explore how life itself is the

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Episode 50 bonus: Finding solace in poetry and music

Emerging Form ·

2021/09/23

In today’s bonus episode, Rosemerry and Christie discuss the poetry and music that have been getting them through this difficult time. Fall (Herbst) by Rainer Maria Rilke The Thing with Feathers by Chris BurskLet X=X, Laurie AndersonNo One, Alicia Keys*Photo by Finn Trommer This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit emergingform.substack.com/subscribe

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Episode 50: Creativity in times of trauma

Emerging Form ·

2021/09/16

This is the most difficult episode we’ve ever recorded. In the span of two weeks, Christie and her family were thrown into a scary state of limbo and Rosemerry experienced an unthinkable loss. In this episode, we discuss what we’ve noticed about our relationship to creativity in this time of upheaval. Rosemerry explains how her 15-year practice of writing daily poems helped prepare her to meet this moment of grief, and Christie discusses her reluctance to solidify this experience by turning it into

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Episode 49: Storytelling with Andy Offut Irwin

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2021/09/02

In this week’s episode (recorded in late July), we jump right in with our delightful guest, Andy Offut Irwin. One of the most sought after performing storytellers in the United States, Andy has been a Featured Teller at the National Storytelling Festival more than ten times. He has appeared fourteen times as Teller in Residence at International Storytelling Center. Among other gigs, Andy has been a Guest Artist at La Guardia High School of Art, Music, and Performing Arts in New York (The “FAME!”

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Episode 48: Never Say You Can't Survive with Charlie...

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2021/08/19

Sometimes, telling a story can save you. In this episode, we speak with novelist, short story writer and journalist Charlie Jane Anders about her new book, “how writing helps us set rules, create frames, and surprise ourselves with what is possible. “Stories keep us alive,” she says. We also talk about writing and politics, writing the story you want to read, changing gears and creativity as a “saving grace.” Charlie Jane Anders is the author of Victories Greater Than Death, the first book in a new

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Episode 47: Imposter syndrome with Jessica...

Emerging Form ·

2021/08/05

Have you ever felt like an imposter in your own creative life? As if you are not truly as competent as others perceive you to be? In this episode of Emerging Form, we talk about imposter syndrome with violinist, award-winning author and scholar/associate professor Jessica Chiccehitto Hindman. Imposter syndrome is not always just your crazy brain telling you that you're not good enough — sexism and racism really does hold people back, she says. Her debut book, Sounds Like Titanic: A Memoir, explores

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Episode 46: Rosemerry and Christie talk about failure

Emerging Form ·

2021/07/22

Failure is, of course, a big part of life, and learning how to meet it in healthy ways is a major part of creative process. In this episode, Rosemerry presents six or more ways we might fail, drawing from Twyla Tharp’s The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life. Rosemerry and Christie talk through the different kinds of failure--their experiences and successful ways to move through each kind of failure. They also talk about second chances, change, public vs. private failure, and the importance

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Episode 45: Protecting Your Creative Time with...

Emerging Form ·

2021/07/08

Two of the most important tools any creative has? Your experiences and your time to create. And your biggest impediment? Distractions. In this episode of Emerging Form, we speak with author Catherine Price about how to strengthen “the muscle of attention,” how to set boundaries for yourself, how to give your brain space and how to change your habits. She focuses on our relationship with our phones—designed to be a tool, they are often our biggest distraction, stealing not only our time but also our

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