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Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk"s enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

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32:08

Origins Part 2: The Prodigal Sons of Post Punk

Curious Creatures ·

2021/11/16

In which Budgie and Lol discover they were a little scared of normal. We knew what we didn’t want to sound like, but loved the Ramones/the Clash/Bowie/Buzzcocks and T-Rex. Music was the future there were no niceties for us. A cup of tea and potato for two was it! Punk put different people in the spotlight, something was happening. Then the fairytale evaporated and they had to find out who they were. You have to be destroyed in the fire to come out anew. Budgie and Lol ricocheted around the world

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34:58

Origins Part 1: Rogues and Ruffians

Curious Creatures ·

2021/11/09

In which Budgie and Lol reveal it all started at the fairgrounds of England. Like a Stephen King novel? The teddy boys, rockers and… girls! Pink Floyd played our bowling alley! Post war England was grim and our true education was punk. Out of the depression we escaped through music. Even the Partridge family! Budgie learns stagecraft in his secret life. Lol stays up all night at Robert's. Desperation and osmosis drove us on. To where? Hear the answer in Part 2 next week! Curious Creatures:Website:

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22:38

Strange Shows Pt. 1: Gangplanks and Flashlights

Curious Creatures ·

2021/11/04

In which Budgie goes to the Florida keys with the Banshees and Sioux only has a flashlight for her light show! Sometimes the best shows are when nobody is there. Lol was scared in Denver on Halloween by Fred Munster! A misty lake in Finland never gets dark for Lol and the Cure. Budgie feels the heat with Love and Rockets in Arizona . It's Hot, hot, hot with Lol in Texas. Those British boys abroad! From hysteria in Newcastle to perfect calm in Tokyo. Lol, and Budgie have seen it all. Gangplanks and

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53:13

Tim Burgess: Psychedelic Guru of Manchester

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2021/11/02

Budgie and Lol hear about Tim's first memory of Little Jimmy Osmond at 6 years old and then Buzzcocks in 1978 at ten years old. He got let in the back door of clubs went on stage in the late 80's doing his thing and nobody has told him to get off yet. The sun came out in Manchester and everyone started dancing! Tim ended up In Los Angeles as part of his childhood fantasy. We discuss destruction-touring and making records. On Head on the Door Lol nearly set the studio alight with model racing cars

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23:35

Religion

Curious Creatures ·

2021/10/28

Roped into a cult at birth. Weddings ( and funerals) were an early source of income for Lol. The Latin mass was mysterious to us ! At the advent of the folk mass, our faith lapsed but the guilt remains, however. Confession is not necessarily good for the soul if you can be revealed! Lols is not a fan of organized religion. At 14 it all changed. Budgie was powered away for decades until at 38 he finally got a handle on his own feelings. Budgie surmised it's a very strange theatrical show they run at

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51:10

Terri Nunn: Ambitious Voice of Berlin

Curious Creatures ·

2021/10/26

Terri Nunn (Berlin) joins Lol and Budgie this week on Curious Creatures. Lol and Budgie discover that the journey is half the battle. The three discuss whether or not musicians have social issues, and if music is the bridge (apparently it’s good for your heart). Lol, Budgie and Terri wonder if the magic of music lasts forever. Do kids listen to and draw their own inspiration from their parents’ music now? Terri talks about having the opportunity to go back and reassure her younger self that it’s all

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25:02

Fashion Faux Pas

Curious Creatures ·

2021/10/21

1970s why Punk just had to be! Everything was flared! I ain't no square with my corkscrew hair Trex Bryan Ferry and Jelly sandals! #1 and #2 Crop. Two partings, Find yer gang! Lol reveals he might have bought the bondage strides Pete Burns actually had a pair of Bondage strides and Paul Rutherford was very jealous. Homemade buttons (badges) Clash jacket made Lol get some slogan on his clothes. Budgie and Lol loved the Holey MOHAIR JUMPERS. YES YES YES! Cold little Punkies! Lol thinks Creepers

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44:02

Michael Dempsy : Recollections of An Imaginary Boy

Curious Creatures ·

2021/10/19

Lol and Budgie are joined by Michael Dempsey, the third founding member of The Cure. Lol and Budgie discover that Michael really dug Lol’s hairdo. They find out they were both misfits of no fixed abode in a progressive In-a-Gadda da-Vida” where “Electric Warriors” congregated against the miasma of Apathy. Michael notes that not being able to play is a singular benefit. They had chips and beer, and watched the Banshees from the wings which is where they learned their stagecraft. Budgie talks about

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39:36

James Murphy Part Two : The Weird Kid in My Town

Curious Creatures ·

2021/10/12

James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) is back to chat with Lol and Budgie for the second time. Lol and Budgie discover that James really digs crazy music. They talk about the Road to Damascus leading to the Fountain of Eternal Youth, along with creating and why mistakes matter! Later Lol and Budgie discover drumming on chunks of metal, a love of staircases, and composing on steering wheels waiting for the lights to change.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and James in this week’s episode,

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37:09

James Murphy Part One : Sex and Drugs and Northern Soul

Curious Creatures ·

2021/10/05

James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) joins Lol and Budgie on this episode of Curious Creatures. Budgie and Lol discover that James knows all about the English Doom. They discuss the Power of newness. Limitations are good now, everyone thinks they’re cool. James says he loves Lol and Budgie (and they love him back). Later Lol and Budgie discover leather pants.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and James in this week’s episode, visit us online at

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4:29

Curious Creatures Season One Trailer

Curious Creatures ·

2021/09/29

Curious Creatures is hosted by Lol Tolhurst and Budgie. Lol is the co-founder of The Cure and Budgie was the drummer for Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Slits, Big in Japan, and co-founder of The Creatures. The duo have over 100 years of combined experience to draw upon since their beginnings as punk pioneers. In each episode of Curious Creatures, Lol and Budgie explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. They welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed

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