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The TEC Talk Podcast: Presented by Natural Encounters, Inc.

Natural Encounters, Inc.

Join co-hosts Chris and Ari for a discussion of animal training, behavior, human-animal relationships, and all things NEI-TEC (the Natural Encounters Inc Training and Education Center), and featuring guests from the NEI team and around the professional animal care world! Email us at podcast@naturalencounters.com if you have a question or something you"d like us to discuss on the show!

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Episode 182: The "P" Stands for "Applications" (with...

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2023/10/12

It's an NEI reunion as Ari and Chris are joined once more on the show by Tim Van Loan! Tim talks about his new role as Curator of Animal Well-being and Behavior at The Living Desert Zoo and Gardens, and we chat about what each of us have been doing during our week at the Ranch as NEI hosts the AZA's Animal Training Applications (ATA) and Managing Animal Enrichment and Training Programs (MAETP) professional development courses. So many great experiences, so many great stories, so many acronyms! Have

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Episode 181: Life is Life-ing Really Hard This Week

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2023/10/05

Chris is joined this week by his thoughts on the long drive home from the Ranch to chat about the ABMA Midyear Board Meeting, the Great Mews Project of 2023, his awe-inspiring co-workers, and 3 recommended episodes of the podcast "WorkLife with Adam Grant" (which I totally know is the name of that show). Have a question for us? A topic you think we should talk about? A suggestion for a way we should change things up in the future? By all means, let us know at podcast@naturalencounters.com!

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Episode 180: Catching Up With Old Friends, Stepping...

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2023/09/28

Fresh off the plane from the other side of the Atlantic, it's the return of NEI President and CEO Steve Martin! Chris and Steve sit down to chat about Steve's visit to IAATE's 2023 UK Symposium (can't wait to give our hawks some biscuits!), some cool new training going on with a young harpy eagle at the Ranch, and our excitement about hosting the upcoming AZA Animal Training Applications in Zoo and Aquarium Settings and Managing Animal Enrichment and Training Programs courses. Too! Many! Fun!

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Episode 179: "ChoiceNControl" for the Human Animal

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2023/09/21

Ari and Chris chat about our field's favorite term that's not actually a word - Choice and Control! They discuss what they are, how they're related, and what they mean for animal care before digging into what they mean when applied to the humans that work on our teams. So many great things to dig into here - learned helplessness, the illusion of choice, the problem with "over-democratizing decisions," and communicating expectations are just some of the many fun things we touch on - turns out being a

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45:30

Episode 178: DIY, AZA, and Other Paths to Leadership...

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2023/09/14

Chris is at the 2023 AZA Annual Conferece in Columbus, OH, and continues his collection of "PDC Podcast People" by chatting with Misha Body and Dr Taylor Gilley! They've both had fascinating paths through the animal care field and are both committed to helping to grow the zoo and aquarium leaders of today and tomorrow - I have a feeling it won't be the last time we have either of them on the show! For more information about what these amazing folks do, you can reach out to them at

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Episode 177: Habits (of the Atomic Variety)

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2023/09/07

With our backstage painting project complete, Ari and Chris discuss the excellent book Atomic Habits by James Clear! Have a question, topic, or suggested guest for the show? Let us know at podcast@naturalencounters.com! --------------------------------- The TEC Talk Podcast is proud to be sponsored by Audible.com! To support the show and get a free 30-day trial of everything Audible has to offer, visit http://www.audibletrial.com/tectalk- thanks Audible!

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Episode 176: Hurricanes, USDA, Abraham Lincoln, and You

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2023/08/31

With much of Florida dealing with a very unwelcome out-of-state guest named Idalia, Chris and Ari take some time to talk about NEI's prepartions for being licensed and inspected by the USDA for the first time. We talk about the history of the organization (happy 150th birthday, USDA!), the new relationship the organization has with bird facilities like ours, and the ins and outs of all the USDA-related projects we're taking on across our 3 locations. Have a question you'd like us to answer, a topic

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Episode 175: Be a Pelican, Not a Pelican't (with Greg...

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2023/08/24

With Ari in Minnesota hanging out with a certain cool bird show crew, Chris is pleased to welcome back Greg Peccie, Director of Animal Health and Welfare at Riverbanks Zoo! Building on our conversation from when Greg was last on the show (Episode 95, for those keeping score), we dive into the challenge of hiring, retaining, and developing people at a time when our industry is undergoing a lot of change. We discuss navigating the modern job application and interview process, the importance of "right

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48:46

Episode 174: Minnesota Nice (with the Minnesota Zoo...

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2023/08/17

Chris and Ari are melting in Central Florida, but luckily they're joined by some very cool people in a much cooler climate - Dan Blair, Meg Meyer, Kayla Rowand, Brianna Thorson, and Laurel Mochinski (along with special guest start Cori Dawson) from Minnesota Zoo's World of Birds Show (Presented by Wings Financial)! We get to discuss the team's experience booting up a brand new show from scratch, Laurel's history with the bird show dating back to when it was run by some guy named Steve Martin (sounds

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Episode 173: Butterflies, Immediate Butterflies (with...

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2023/08/10

With Ari taking some much-deserved vacation, Chris is joined by NEI's own Shayna Gruman! For the week of Shay's one-year work anniversary we talk about her history in the field, how the job has lived up to the expectations she had before meeting and working alongside us while still in the Moorpark Exotic Animal Training and Management program, what she's learned at our facilties in Florida and at her current gig at our show at Roger Williams Park Zoo in Rhode Island, and what she feels she's still

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Episode 172: Final Thoughts on Conversing Crucially...

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2023/08/03

We finally finished our homework! Ari and Chris sit down for the fourth and final episode of their TEC Talk Book Club to discussion of Crucial Conversations: Chapter 10: Putting it All Together: Tools for Preparing and Learning Chapter 11: Yeah, But...: Advice for Tough Cases Chapter 12: Change Your Life: How to Turn Ideas into Habits If you've joined us on our maiden voyage of the TEC Talk Book Club, let us know what you've thought about it! If you have any feedback for us, for the show, or for

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Episode 171: Wait, Who Shot the Dog First? (The Ten...

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2023/07/27

Ari and Chris are back in their office to finish off their incredibly-surface-level review of The Ten Laws of Shaping from Karen Pryor's Don't Shoot the Dog! In our wrap-up episode for this topic we realize that we don't know who first "shot the dog," we don't remember when we talked about "ending on a good note" (but we're pretty sure we did), and we don't know where our old copies of the book are and exactly how they differ from the one we're using now. Hey, we're being vulnerable, ok?!!? Have an

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Episode 170: Be Careful How You Spend Your Equats!...

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2023/07/21

With Ari away at the IAATE midyear meeting, Chris takes advantage of some time at the Roger Williams Park Zoo in Providence, Rhode Island, to chat with a few amazing folks, Director of Education Shareen Knowlton and Manager of Ambassador Animals Jen Rudolph! We learn a bit about Shareen and Jen's paths through the field, the advatanges of starting in the field "late", the importance of eliminating the "siloing" of teams in a facilty, the influence of Brené Brown, and the value of knowing how many

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Episode 169: Employee of the Month, EVERY MONTH!...

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2023/07/13

With Chris somewhere in Europe again (we think) Ari sits down with Erik Montgomery, Director of Operations for the Natural Encounters Conservation Fund, to chat all things NECF! Erik and Ari tak about NECF's work donating 100% of the funds they collect to various in situ conservaton programs that really need it, benefitting everything from lions and vultures to pangolins and gharials, what those three R's in the chasing arrow recycling symbol really mean, and how mining for sand on the other side of

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Episode 168: "The Asian Chick in the Back of the...

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2023/07/06

Ari and Chris are excited to be joined by Jennie Janssen, Assistant Curator at National Aquarium and President and Co-Founder of Minorities in Aquarium and Zoo Science (MIAZS)! Jennie shares her history in the aquarium industry, how a case of mistaken identity helped reinforce a lack of diversity in the field, and how her non-profit is providing a resource for people at all levels to help make the professional animal care world a more open, inviting, and equitable place for everyone. To find out

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Episode 167: As Always, "It Depends" (The Ten Laws of...

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2023/06/29

Chris and Ari return to Karen Pryor's Don't Shoot the Dog! to discuss another batch of guidelines from her "Ten Laws of Shaping"! Solid advice all around, with the added spice of some thoughts on where and when folks might want to consider veering away from them when it's in the best interest of the animal, the session, or the project. For this second go around, we discuss Laws 4-7: When introducing a new criterion, temporarily relax the old ones. Stay ahead of your subject: Plan your shaping

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Episode 166: Animal Podcasters of the World Unite...

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2023/06/22

What's better than an animal training and behavior podcast? FOUR OF THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME! Chris and Ari fulfill a longtime dream and bring together the hosts of the TEC Talk Podcast, the Zoo Logic Podcast, the Animal Training Academy Podcast Show, and Animal Behavior Conversations (The Podcast of the ABMA) into one giant supercast! We sit down with Dr Grey Stafford, Ryan Cartlidge, and Shane Gorbett to talk about why we started our shows, the challenges with organizing, booking, and recording

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Episode 165: Once Upon A Time in Rhode Island (with...

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2023/06/15

Chris is MIA (still in America, just lost his voice) but Ari soldiers on with the help of Sean Hoelle, Kassidy King, and Morgan Lopes, part of the staff of NEI's "Rhode Show" at Roger Williams Park Zoo in Providence, Rhode Island! The crew chat about how the show has been going, building new relationships at a new facility, and being TikTok famous after an epic flyoff. We also learn some things that are uniquely Rhode Island, because this may be the smallest state but it definitely has some big

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Episode 164: Staying Constructive in an Evolving...

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2023/06/08

Chris has the plague! But don't worry, he is resting at home and Ari is joined this week by NEI trainer Lizzi Fricker (which is definitely her last name, as we learn during this episode). They chat about how Lizzi started in the field, the culture shift that is occuring for zoo professionals industry-wide, how to communicate at high levels with your team when we aren't taught that important skill, moving beyond an "us against them" mentality to get to a solution-oriented level of professionalism,

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Episode 163: How is "DRSA" Not a Thing? (The Ten Laws...

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2023/06/01

Ari and Chris reconvene in their office to discuss Don't Shoot the Dog's Ten Laws of Shaping! Having not read the book in years, we were interested to look at Karen Pryor's ten suggestions for successful shaping through the filter of our current training practices and understanding of the science of behavior change. Because we can talk forever about this stuff we only get through the first 3, so this is the first episode in a new TEC Talk mini-series - how fun is that? (Also, we're making it clear

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