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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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1:02:14

BTB Ep 395: Are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce an...

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2023/10/01

TOPICS: Are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce an item? Ryan and Katie Z discuss; AI Overlord Tip of the week; the text of the Protect Working Musicians Act has been released; we interview music executive JasonDavis of One One 7. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting oneone7.comRate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on

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1:00:30

BTB Ep 394: The Protect Working Musicians Act is...

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2023/09/24

TOPICS: Ryan continues to obsess over Marlins third baseman Jake Burger; the Protect Working Musicians Act is back in Congress again and we hope that Congress will pass this important law to help independent creators level the playing field with big tech; DistroKid acquires Bandzoogle; AI OverlordTip of the Week; we interview award-winning tech and entertainment industry podcast Stephen Robles. Find out more about our guest’s podcast, YouTube channel, and newsletter by visiting beard.fm

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1:01:08

BTB Ep 393: Future trends in music; Is TikTok killing...

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2023/09/17

TOPICS: Is Dr. Pepper with creamer delicious?; Jimmy Buffett was an incredible businessman; Ryan and Zak talk about future trends in music; Is TikTok killing the traditional music video; Zak answers a listener question about how music producers can get the best performance out of the musicians they record.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the

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1:01:30

BTB Ep 392: Taylor Swift cuts out the movie studios;...

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2023/09/10

TOPICS: Taylor Swift cuts out the movie studios (who are in the middle of a labor dispute) to distribute her new “Eras” concert tour film; does social media hurt artists’ creativity?; we interview Professor Tony Iliakostas of New York Law School about the role that AI plays in copyright law. Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on

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BTB Ep 391: Eminem's message to a presidential...

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2023/09/03

TOPICS: Eminem to Vivek Ramaswamy: Stop using my music; getting musicians to buy your merch; creating content calendars; we interview we interview alt blues singer-songwriter ZZ Ward. ZZ’s newalbum “Dirty Shine” is available on September 8th and you can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.zzward.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like

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1:02:18

BTB Ep 390: Can AI-generated works get copyright...

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2023/08/27

TOPICS: A federal judge rules on whether AI-generated works can be protected by copyright; ElisaRockDoc breaks down her hosting gig at GenCon; we interview acclaimed entrepreneur and musician Miki Agrawal. Check out Miki’s debut album “It All Exists” (under the moniker Soul Gaze) and find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.mikiagrawal.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the

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1:07:33

BTB Ep 389: Saving money on copyright registration;...

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2023/08/20

TOPICS: Co-host Zak Sloan brings back his Orson Welles impression for the AI Overlord Tip of the Week; advice on saving money on copyright registration and why you shouldn’t do the “poor man’s copyright”; we interview NYC songwriter Diane Gentile about the state of live music post COVID lockdown. Diane’s new album “The Bad and the Beautiful" is coming out in September and you can find out more about her work by visiting https://www.dianegentile.comRate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business

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1:01:35

BTB Ep 388: Is AM/FM radio less important for...

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2023/08/13

TOPICS: Does terrestrial radio have less of an impact for musicians?; How does TikTok pay royalties; Should songwriters use AI?; AI Overlord Tip of the week; we interview Veda Cruz, entertainment attorney and corporate counsel for game developer Gearbox Publishing. You can check out our guest on Instagram and Twitch @vaulthunterveda.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast

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1:01:18

BTB Ep 387: Overcoming burnout as a creator; we...

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2023/08/06

TOPICS: We celebrate Producer Lauren’s birthday; Ryan gets a taste of TikTok virality; we talk about coming back from burnout as a creator with Katie Zaccardi; AI Overlord Tip of the Week; we interviewBay Area singer and DJ Barbara. If you're in LA, check out Barbara performing at the We Found New Music Showcase at Hotel Ziggy on Wednesday, 8/9 at 7pm. She'll be singing unreleased tracks from her album Palm City Dreams out later this year. RSVP for this free show here:

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1:01:13

BTB Ep 386: Why did Twitter change its name to X?;...

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2023/07/30

TOPICS: We talk about the rise of NPC creators; why did Twitter change its name to X?; we talk to singer-songwriter and TikToker Emilee Moore about her groundbreaking Pixar-inspired songs and videos. Follow Emilee on TikTok @emilee.moore and check out her latest single "If I Don't Have You" on all streaming platforms.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like

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1:01:04

BTB Ep 385: SAG - AFTRA Strike; Kaity and James from...

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2023/07/23

TOPICS: SAG-AFTRA's 160,000 members are on strike, joining the WGA; Keith McNutt of the Entertainment Community Fund; AI Overlord Tip of the Week; we interview Katy and James from Sunflower Fox and the Chicken Leg. Their latest single "Naughty Little Girl" is available now and you can find out more about our guests’ work by visitingwww.sunfoxband.com.Support the Entertainment Community Fund by visiting www.entertainmentcommunity.org.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes,

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1:04:03

BTB Ep 384: Stop throwing stuff at musicians at...

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2023/07/16

TOPICS: Ryan and co-host Gideon King talk about the recent trend of stupid music fans throwing cell phones, sex toys, and dead people’s ashes at musicians at concerts; changes in music technology; we interview music manager Emily Cameron (ATC Management) about protecting artists’ rights. You can follow ATC Management on Instagram and Twitter @atcmanagement.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the

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1:03:05

BTB Ep 383: Instagram Threads is here; we interview...

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2023/07/09

TOPICS: July is here and that means that the Barbie/Oppenheimer premiere is fast approaching; AI DJs; Instagram Threads is here; we interview attorney and TikTok sensation Reb Masel about balancing her work as a lawyer and as a TikTok creator and podcaster. Check out Reb’s podcast Rebuttal on all major platforms and follow her on TikTok and Instagram @rebmasel.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break

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1:02:03

BTB 382: The end of the Kesha - Dr. Luke legal saga;...

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2023/07/02

TOPICS: Ryan and Elisa talk about their obsession with The Legend of Zelda; AI Overlord Tip of the Week; we break down the end of the Kesha - Dr. Luke legal saga; we interview musician and financeCEO Gideon King about how he has applied the skills he learned on Wall Street in the music world. The new EP of his band Gideon King and City Blog titled “Splinters” is coming out later this year and you can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting

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1:01:26

BTB Ep 381: Can songwriters unionize?; lawyer &...

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2023/06/25

TOPICS: With the WGA and possible SAG-AFTRA strike, we look at whether songwriters can also unionize to get better working conditions; effective networking tips; we interview entertainment lawyer and LAFilm School professor Joshua Lastine about the strike and get his advice on how to ask for more in your negotiations without seeming like a jerk. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visitingwww.lastineentertainmentlaw.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes,

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1:00:24

BTB Ep 380: “Don’t follow your passion. Follow your...

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2023/06/18

TOPICS: The problem with “Follow your passion” as advice; a special Father’s Day AI Overlord Tip of the Week; we interview Andrew Shapiro and Meg Pollaro of indie rock duo Twilight Muse. Their new albumdrops on June 23rd and you can find out more by visiting www.twilightmuse.nyc.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on Facebook and tell

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1:01:21

BTB Ep 379: Dua Lipa survives a copyright lawsuit; we...

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2023/06/11

TOPICS: Dua Lipa survives a copyright lawsuit (and why that is good news for all creators); 100 Greatest Disney Songs; AI Overlord Tip of The Week; we interview filmmaker and LA Film School instructor DerekToombs. Find out more about our guest’s work by following @newfangledmpc on Twitter.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on Facebook

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1:01:03

BTB Ep 378: Getting merchandising trademarks;...

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2023/06/04

TOPICS: Ryan and ElisaRockDoc get really excited about the Heat and the Panthers making the finals of their sports; strategies for creators to get trademark registrations in merchandising; Hurricane names;Elisa talks about the two new audiobooks that she narrated,Julieta and the Romeos and The Luis Ortega Survival Club. Both audiobooks are available now and Elisa does an amazing job narrating them!Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google

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BTB Ep 377: Zak Sloan and Producer Lauren hold down...

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2023/05/28

TOPICS: Zak Sloan and Producer Lauren discuss the future of AI in creative works; AI Overlord Tip of the Week; WGA Strike, Universal Music embracing AI, the death of Tina Turner, and interview Musician and host Andy Frasco, about his music, mental health and his World Saving Podcast and partnership with Volume.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like

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1:00:18

BTB Ep 376: CD Baby making copyright registration...

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2023/05/21

TOPICS: Ryan and Producer Lauren talk about how easy it is for guys to do high school theatre; CD Baby is partnering with Cosyndto offer a copyright registration platform within CD Baby; AI Overlord Tip of the Week; we interview Ophelia’s Electric Soapbox Venue Ross James about strategies for indie creators to get booked in mid-sized venues.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business

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