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All of the Above Podcast

All of the Above

Welcome to All of the Above, the show that gives you an un-standardized take on education! We"re your home for news and analysis of all the complex, relevant, and controversial issues impacting our schools today. Hosted by the super-dope duo of history teacher Dr. Manuel Rustin and principal-leader Jeffrey Garrett, two Black male lifelong educators based in Los Angeles. This is the podcast version of our video series. Check out the dopest education show on YouTube and subscribe to our channel at

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00:53:10

The Best Way to Teach - Passing Period #101

All of the Above Podcast ·

2023/07/15

This Week: A study out of the UK suggests that the “best” way to teach might look differently from subject to subject. Shocker, we know. But the interesting part is that the results might be counterintuitive in this era of common core math, and more progressive pedagogy aimed at achieving college readiness for all. Also, this week the Biden administration announced plans to fix administrative flaws in the income driven repayment plans for federal student loan borrowers, automatically crediting them

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01:23:07

#105 - Preparing Teachers for Ethnic Studies w/ Dr....

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2023/07/08

The Ethnic Studies dopeness keeps on coming! In our latest look at the growth and implementation of K-12 Ethnic Studies, we explore a university-school partnership focused on preparing current classroom teachers for excellent high school Ethnic Studies implementation. We’re joined by Dr. Jason Kim-Seda, a researcher, instructor, and program designer for the College of Education at CSU Los Angeles whose work includes building capacity of Ethnic Studies teacher teams. He speaks with us about Ethnic

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01:12:01

#104 - Gen Z Enters the Teaching Profession w/ Bryant...

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2023/06/24

From low compensation, rising costs of living, and the tragic reality of school shootings to book bans, critical race hysteria, and threats against “woke” teachers–this sure seems like a hell of a time to decide to enter the teaching profession. And yet, a whole new generation of teachers are spending this summer getting ready to start their credentialing programs or prepping for their first year of teaching. How do we support and sustain this aspiring group, and what’s their outlook on the state of

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01:13:15

#103 - Avoiding Burnout with Rebekah Shoaf and...

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2023/06/10

Why am I doing this? Is this still right for me? Why am I not finding the same type of joy and meaning in my work that I once did? These are a few of the questions that many educators grapple with when experiencing burnout. In a profession that is especially grueling for justice-oriented folks, how do we sustain talented, dedicated, super-dope educators who are questioning whether they still have it? This week we’re joined by Rebekah Shoaf and Meredith Matson–authors of Educating with Passion and

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00:46:44

Pride Month Protest and Mentoring for New Teachers -...

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2023/06/03

This Week: It’s Pride Month, and there’s some not good news coming out of the city of LA, where a group of hateful community members showed up to protest a Pride Month assembly at a local elementary school. And, we dig into a fascinating story from NPR on new teacher mentoring, rooted in rural Alaska, where a mentor takes 3 planes and a snowmobile to mentor new teachers in remote villages. Manuel and Jeff discuss the role and effectiveness of mentoring and reflect on their own experiences as new

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01:11:44

#102 - Ethnic Studies in High Schools w/ Dr. Theresa...

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2023/05/27

California’s high school class of 2030 will be the first statewide cohort in the nation required to pass an ethnic studies course in order to graduate. Although this groundbreaking step stands in sharp contrast to the banning and censorship efforts taking place in states like Florida, California’s ethnic studies mandate is not without its critics and detractors. This week we sit with Dr. Theresa Montaño and Lupe Cardona to explore the promise and the pushback around offering ethnic studies at every

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00:49:41

SURPRISE!!! Studies Show More Funding Improves...

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2023/05/20

This Week: The notion that “throwing more money at schools” isn’t a serious policy solution has dominated the policy landscape for decades, thanks in significant part to one Eric Hanushek. His work has been cited in court cases, and public discourse since the 80s to suppress efforts at more just and equitable funding for schools. Well, turns out that even Hanushek's own research now supports the very idea he has spent a career opposing. Maueul and Jeff discuss the religious pseudoscience of

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01:02:21

Bulletproof Whiteboards and Civil Rights Complaints -...

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2023/05/13

This Week: we got a bunch of hood stuff to get into today! Manuel’s students present their ethnic studies genius, AOTA listener Mike chimes in on last week’s episode on teacher pay with an interesting debate, a MN school district buys bulletproof whiteboards for kids to fend of school shooters, and one person files more than 7k civil rights complaints to the US Dept of Ed all by themselves last year. Manuel and Jeff discuss! Get your All of the Above swag, including your own “Teach the Truth”

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01:02:50

Civics Scores Are No Bueno, and Debating Teacher Pay...

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2023/05/07

This Week: The 2022 NAEP 8th grade civics scores are out, and the clickbait headlines are flowing. But what does the data really mean, and how should we feel about the lack of progress? Also, Manuel and Jeff weigh in on an age-old debate - should teachers who work in hard to staff schools, or schools serving marginalized communities, be paid more? Is the opposition from unions just entrenched politics of the past that preserve an unfair system? Are these policies a temporary band aid that won’t

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00:55:46

Celebrations and Hidden Problems with College...

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2023/04/29

This Week: It’s a growing annual tradition, schools celebrating college decision day with fanfare, pomp and circumstance. With that backdrop in mind, Manuel and Jeff explore a record setting senior who was admitted to 125+ colleges and earned more than $9M in scholarships, and students in CA who got into their dream school, got max financial aid awards, and still can’t afford to go. Plus, the College Board backtracks on their capitulation to white supremacists, but is it enough to resolve the

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01:19:14

#101 - Larry Ferlazzo on boosting student motivation!

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2023/04/22

It’s an age-old question: Why aren’t my students as excited about this super-awesome lesson plan as I am?? Of course, it would be wonderful if every student arrived to class with deep, passionate motivation to learn each day. Seeing as how that’s not quite the reality in our schools, this week we explore what role teachers play in creating the conditions for students to develop an intrinsic motivation for learning. We’re joined by veteran teacher and author extraordinaire Larry Ferlazzo to examine

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00:53:44

Bumps in teacher prep program enrollment could mean...

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2023/04/15

This Week: Manuel heads to Sacramento to hang out with all the most brilliant educators in CA working on teacher diversity, and a new piece in The 74 cites federal data showing, surprisingly, a bump in enrollment in teacher prep programs throughout much of the country. Could this mean the beginning of the end of the teacher shortage crisis? Or is this just a blip on an otherwise downward trending graph? Manuel and Jeff discuss. Get your All of the Above swag, including your own “Teach the Truth”

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00:45:21

Community College Exodus- Passing Period #94

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2023/04/08

This Week: College enrollment overall has been on the decline for several years now, but with enrollment down nearly 40% in the nation’s community colleges, big questions arise - where are the students going? Is this a good thing, or a bad thing? What’s not working in our 2 year schools that needs fixing? What should we do about it? Manuel and Jeff dig into the complex issues driving students away from 2 year public schools, and the importance of these institutions in a society that claims to want

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01:28:47

Episode 100!! - An educator’s view from Florida w/...

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2023/04/01

Those of us educators and advocates outside of the state of Florida have been looking at the repressive and dangerous actions of the state government in shock. As the Republican leadership in Florida passes bills fundamentally altering the landscape of education, how are educators and the communities they serve being impacted? This week we’re joined by Florida-based author, educator, and super-dope returning guest Lorena Germán to examine the impact and responses to the bans, restrictions, and

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00:54:40

LAUSD strike yields new contract, and the Texas war...

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2023/03/25

This Week: After a three day strike, with SEUI and UTLA joining forces to demand sharp raises in pay and benefits for LAUSD’s lowest paid workers, an agreement was announced with a historic 30% raise, guarantees of better working hours, and an expansion of health care coverage for employees and their dependants. Meanwhile, Texas continues the march towards right wing dystopia with a fanatical bill that under the guise of “parental rights” aims to shift public funding to religious schools, eliminate

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01:07:24

#99 - Equity gaps in extracurricular education w/ Dr....

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2023/03/18

Equity gaps in education aren’t limited to the confines of the traditional school day. Out-of-school and extracurricular enrichment experiences deliver thousands more hours of learning to kids from wealthier backgrounds than children living in marginalized communities. How might this be addressed, and where does this issue fit in the larger context of educational equity? Dr. Charli Kemp joins us this week to help us explore equity gaps in what takes place after the bell rings! Dr. Kemp is the

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00:47:39

3 year pandemic anniversary and LGBTQ families...

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2023/03/12

This Week: Three years ago the educational world came to a virtual standstill as COVID 19 would close school house doors, and reshape the experience of a generation. And, a story from NBC News profiling families of LGBTQ students who are choosing to opt out of attending college in states with new repressive, anti LGBTQ laws on the books. What will this mean for the landscape of college applications and attendance? What does this signify in the larger movement for educational justice? Manuel and Jeff

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00:47:53

AOTA goes international! And a remedy for the teen...

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2023/03/04

This Week: Jeff interrupts his tropical galavanting to check in with the All of the Above family across a 15-hour time difference. That’s dedication! Amid a backdrop of tropical waves, he and Manuel take a look at a new piece by Anya Kamenentz about a promising approach that some schools are taking to address the teen mental health crisis. In the face of a very real shortage of mental health providers, can teens be empowered to step up for each other? Manuel and Jeff discuss. Get your All of the

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00:56:20

BHM Shenanigans, and 230,000 Missing Kids from...

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2023/02/11

This Week: Sometimes you just gotta trust the youth. Hundreds of kids at a Tuscaloosa, AL high school walk out in protest after their school administration allegedly told them to not include any content from before 1970 in their Black History Month program. The College Board gets in on the fun with a flimsy response to the Florida DOE that does nothing to dispute that they capitulated to right wing extremism and white supremacists in redacting their African American Studies curriculum. Also, some

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01:13:40

#98 - Truly Terrific Teaching Today with CA Teacher...

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2023/02/06

Here at All of the Above we loooove teachers, especially super-dope ones. We’re also, perhaps, a tad bit partial to California. That being the case, it should come as no surprise to our AOTA Family that we’d bring on yet another super-dope teacher from California–Jason Torres-Rangel!! Jason is a California State Teacher of the Year and a California nominee for the National Teacher of the Year competition, and he joins us to discuss the present and future of the teaching profession. But first, Jeff

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