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The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.

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37:47

Abortion Changes Politics

The Gist ·

2022/07/05

Sarah Longwell, host of the podcast The Focus Group—and also host of actual bona-fide, gold-standard focus groups—reports on the changing sentiment after the Dobbs ruling. Plus, a president tries to shame companies into lowering prices, while a governor thinks now is the time for fiscal stimulus. And the Highland Park shooter is, in some ways, atypical, but, at the same, time horrifyingly familiar. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show,

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27:03

BEST OF THE GIST: Is SCOTUS Legit?

The Gist ·

2022/07/02

On this week’s installment of Best Of The Gist, we listen back to a chunk of Mike’s September 2020 interview with Jonathan V. Last, editor of The Bulwark. Last explains that although remaining optimistic with regards to the legitimacy of the SCOTUS, he is ultimately losing faith that some voters care not for a system of governance that is capable of functioning competently. Then, we listen to Mike’s Monday Spiel on a similar theme. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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42:08

Big Lies Never Seem To Die

The Gist ·

2022/07/01

The 1954 film Salt Of The Earth was made under enormous strain. The production crew had been blacklisted; the cast was half professionals, half laborers; and J. Edgar Hoover's FBI was interfering with this supposed piece of communist propaganda. Writer and creator John Mankiewicz, along with director Aaron Lipstadt, discuss The Big Lie, their Audible Original story (via Fresh Produce Media) of the making of the film. Plus, no one much likes fact-checking Biden, and a USB stick lost in Japan leads to

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33:38

General Optimism

The Gist ·

2022/06/30

When it comes to Ukraine, former U.S. Army Lieutenant General Ben Hodges is more hopeful than much of the military establishment. The former Commanding General of the United States Army in Europe makes his case. Also on the show, the Supreme Court's makes for confusing case law...sometimes they're textualists, sometimes they find different justifications to suit their actual doctrinal goals. And in the Spiel, President Biden thinks the U.S. is experiencing comparatively low inflation, even though

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31:45

Treating Cassidy Bombastically

The Gist ·

2022/06/29

Does Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony change everything, clarify vividly, or demand corroboration urgently? Possibly, definitely and not necessarily says Quinta Jurecic, Senior Editor at Lawfare. Plus, Mike analyzes the idea of an "Inverse-OPEC" not to be confused with the Upside Down NATO, and the Double Reverse Unesco. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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35:18

The Heinz Hits The Fan

The Gist ·

2022/06/28

Cassidy Hutchinson, former Mark Meadows aid testifies before the committee that Donald Trump...did a lot. A Very lot. Plus, Princeton Professor of Sociology Patrick Sharkey and author of the 2018 book Uneasy Peace: The Great Crime Decline, the Renewal of City Life, and the Next War on Violence, talks about if we are indeed experiencing that next war. Plus, the left critique of Democratic leaders not doing enough to fight for abortion rights. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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36:59

Is SCOTUS Illegitimacy Talk Legit?

The Gist ·

2022/06/27

After Dobbs, the Supreme Court can lay claim to a lot of pejorative: “extreme,” “unsafe,” “unfair,” “unkind” …but what about “illegitimate?” Also, how Chief Justice Roberts’ lonely status is entirely unsurprising. Plus Mike interviews Kim Masters of The Hollywood Reporter and host of KCRW’s The Business about the massive Netflix sell off, and how it changes what we, and Wall Street, thought about streaming. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on

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29:30

BEST OF THE GIST: The Case Against The Two-Party System

The Gist ·

2022/06/25

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, with recent gun reform regulations in our near past, the January 6th Hearings ongoing, and the ramifications of the overturn of Roe versus Wade yet to fully wash over us, we find ourselves yet again wondering about the future of our democracy. If only something could be done to lessen the chasm between the two parties…like maybe stop thinking about our politics as a binary equation? We thought it a good moment to listen back to Mike’s January 14, 2020

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33:05

Roe's Shockingly Expected Demise

The Gist ·

2022/06/24

The Supreme Court says we have no right to our rights, and it leaves women to suffer. Mike looks at historic death rates from abortion and advances a constitutional argument to protect the youngest victims. We’re also joined by Ben Wittes, Editor In Chief of Lawfare to talk about the Senate’s Jan 6th hearings, discuss which version of stupid-versus-crazy best serves Trump as a legal defense, and what the costs of prosecution might be. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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33:41

Tracy Flick Strikes Back

The Gist ·

2022/06/23

In his latest novel, Tracy Flick Can’t Win, author Tom Perrotta attempts to wrestle his iconic character (which Reece Witherspoon helped to brand in the 1998 film Election) away from the zeitgeist and return her to the fictional universe he created for her. Mike and Tom discuss how one does that exactly. Also, you may not be following the internet the way Donald Trump does. And in the Spiel, Mike mulls over the Supreme Court ruling on guns. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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35:24

The Presidential Sofa Stuffed With $4 Million

The Gist ·

2022/06/22

When $4 to $8 million was allegedly stolen from his ranch, which had been hidden inside a sofa, South African president Cyril Ramaphosa was accused of covering up his status as crime victim. Mike attempts to track a tale that winds its way through Windhoek, a spy master, an antelope auction, and, possibly, a one-armed soccer star. Plus, Sunshine Hillygus, Professor of Political Science a Duke, talks about the wrong way we try to convince young people to vote. And a January 6th insurrectionist gets

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32:49

ALL The Colors Of The Rainbow (Except One)

The Gist ·

2022/06/21

The Pride flag is synonymous with inclusion…unless, of course, you are the color indigo. Confused? That’s why we’ve convened another Vexillology Corner with Ted Kaye, secretary of the North American Vexillological Association and the author of Good Flag, Bad Flag. Plus, the Texas Senate committee on the Uvalde shooting convenes, as the US House of Representatives January 6th commission continues. And in the Spiel, a misleading CNN report purports to find massive racial disparities in hundreds of

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5:18

Introducing History is US

The Gist ·

2022/06/20

Written and narrated by award-winning author and Professor of African American Studies at Princeton University, Dr. Eddie S. Glaude, “History is US” is a 6-part audio documentary produced and developed by C13Originals that asks questions about who we are as a nation, and what race might reveal about our current crisis. Through the voices of distinguished historians and scholars, this limited series gives listeners the background and education to understand how we got here and how we can all use

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37:07

BEST OF THE GIST: Eddie Glaude

The Gist ·

2022/06/18

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, we listen back to Mike’s August 7, 2020 interview with Dr. Eddie Glaude, Jr. of Princeton University. The two discussed Glaude’s newest book and its release in the context of the recent civil uprisings. Begin Again: James Baldwin's America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own poses a fundamental argument around how getting it wrong culturally has hurt the fabric of our nation. Glaude helps make sense of where we are today and explains that Baldwin understood

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37:26

Napoleon Dynamite Meets Sid And Nancy

The Gist ·

2022/06/17

Kyle Gallner and Emily Skeggs talk about their movie "Dinner in America" about a a repressed suburban Michigan girl and the punk rocker who injects some needed chaos in her life. Plus how an alleged insurrectionist relates to a Lizzo lyric and in the Antwentig, a dispute over a barren rock is offered up as a lesson for us all, but especially Vladamir Putin. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit:

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37:50

The Elephant (NON) Woman

The Gist ·

2022/06/16

A State Court sensibly says elephants aren't people. But when a court case is filed, it gives legitimacy to an argument no matter how fetched. Also, Former United States Circuit Judge and conservative icon Michael Luttig lets the January 6 commission know that Donald Trump is still a clear and present Danger. Plus, former Barak Obama Aid and Pod Save America host Dan Pfeiffer joins us to discuss if jettisoning objectivity helps us all and where he places his podcasting endeavors in the media

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32:13

Facebook, Fox And Far-Fetched Fictions

The Gist ·

2022/06/15

Dan Pfeiffer, former a senior advisor to President Barack Obama, is out with a new book “Battling the Big Lie: How Fox, Facebook, and the Maga Media Are Destroying America”. Plus did a US Representatives give reconnaissance tours the day before the January 6 insurrection? And a farewell to the comedy, and hypothetical question stylings of Justice Stephen Breyer. Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Learn more about your ad choices

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37:00

A California Template For Assault Weapons Ban

The Gist ·

2022/06/14

California children are half as likely to be shot as kids in other states, and per capita California has experienced fewer mass slaughters than the nation as a whole. One reason is the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control act of 1989. We Talk to Mike Roos about the ins and outs of getting that legislation passed. Plus, What would we think of the assaults on the capitol is they took place in another country. Mike defends America more than you'd think, maybe more than it deserves. Produced by Joel

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36:05

The Project That Collects And Projects Violence

The Gist ·

2022/06/13

Dr. Jillian Peterson Professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Hamline University is President and cofounder of The Violence Project. She has been analyzing the commonalities of mass shooters for years and has developed a profile of the perpetrators. She also has a wealth of knowledge mass shootings based on data, case histories and in-person interviews. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit:

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44:14

BEST OF THE GIST: Larry Wilmore and James Kirchick

The Gist ·

2022/06/11

In August 2016, Larry Wilmore’s talk show was canceled. The Nightly Show focused on issues like equality, activism, and how racism subtly wormed its way into American life. In hindsight, it feels ahead of its time. In this installment of Best Of The Gist, we will listen back to that June 9, 2017 interview with Wilmore, who then launched a podcast, Black On The Air, which continues to this day. But first, some say the power in Washington DC can be found in control of the purse strings, other say its

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