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Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics

Moody"s Analytics

Join Chief Economist Mark Zandi, Marisa DiNatale and Cristian deRitis as they discuss key indicators and other aspects of the global economy. Contact us at insideeconomics@moodys.com. Visit online at www.economy.com/economicview

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00:52:50

Giddy to Great

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/12/08

Inside Economics discusses the December jobs report, which left Mark feeling “giddy”, Cris “cheerful”, Dante “happy”, and Marisa “great”. The team considers the jobs numbers in the context of other recent labor market indicators which show a resilient but moderating job market. And they end with an assessment of whether the recently boomy labor supply and strong productivity growth are sustainable.Follow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn for

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01:28:22

Mayer on Mortgages and Multifamily

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/12/01

Chris Mayer, Professor of Real Estate Economics at Columbia University and CEO of Longbridge Financial, joins Mark, Marisa, and Cris to discuss reverse mortgages and the state of the residential real estate market. While the single-family market may tread water, multifamily may be in for a serious correction. Mark wonders if we can avoid the fallout from this economic meteor. For more about Christopher Mayer, click hereFollow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on

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01:15:07

Jigowatts and EV Jitters

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/11/24

Inside Economics considers the economy’s performance and prospects through the prism of the electric utility industry with the Chief Economist of American Electric Power, Dan White. It was great to catch up with Dan, a former colleague, and get his insight on how American households and businesses are doing. He also ponders the transition to green energy. Follow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn for additional insight.

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01:08:14

Trade, Taco Bowls, and Theme Parks

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/11/17

Fred Hochberg, Fmr. Chairman & President of the Export–Import Bank of the United States and author of Trade Is Not a Four-Letter Word: How Six Everyday Products Make the Case for Trade, joins the Inside Economics team to discuss all things related to global trade. The discussion takes up the U.S.-China relationship, the future of globalization, and how trade policy may change after the 2024 election. Marisa’s visit to Disneyland is a (largely irrelevant but entertaining) theme throughout. For more

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01:24:18

Bazemore on Housing & FHLBs

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/11/10

Teresa Bazemore, CEO of the San Francisco Federal Home Loan Bank, joins the podcast to discuss the nation's reeling housing market, and the role of the FHLB system. There's a lot to talk about as Teresa weighs recent criticism of the FHLBs in the wake of the banking crisis earlier this year, and the recent report from the FHLBs' regulator, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, proposing reforms to the system.For more information about Teresa Bazemore click hereMoody's Papers discussed in this episode

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01:09:54

Strength from Weakness

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/11/04

Dante joins the podcast to break down the October employment report. With job growth moderating and the unemployment rate edging higher, the Fed’s fight against inflation should get a little bit easier. The team also takes a few listener questions about the definition of the unemployment rate and what impact softening rents will have on single-family housing. Follow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn for additional insight.

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00:48:38

Gangbuster GDP

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/10/27

The inside Economics team takes up the gangbuster GDP growth in the third quarter. Marisa walks the group though the GDP identity C+I+G+net exports and concludes that while the report overstates the case, it makes a strong case that the economy is on solid ground. Cris gives Marisa an A+ for her exposition. Good thing given their history. Follow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn for additional insight.

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01:21:39

Bonds, Baseball and Blankies

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/10/20

Mark, Cris and Marisa welcome colleague David Fieldhouse to Inside Economics to talk about the run up in long-term bond yields and mortgage rates, as well as the outlook for the consumer. The team discusses why the 10-year yield has breached 5% for the first time since before the GFC and what it might mean for the economy if rates stay higher for longer. They also consider the possibility of the yield curve reverting into positive territory soon. Mark tries to help Cris overcome his fears of a

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01:18:49

Prices, Petroleum, and Prosciutto

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/10/13

Inflation was front and center in this week’s podcast. Mark and Marisa (yes, she’s back and winning the stats game again) hosted a wonderful cast of colleagues to talk over the September CPI report, the European inflation experience, which is similar to that here in the U.S., and given recent grim events in the Middle East, energy prices. The bottom line is inflation continues to head in the right direction, but not in a straight line. Follow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and

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00:57:27

Within Statistical Spitting Distance

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/10/06

Dante joins Cris and Mark to digest the September jobs report. The outsized job gain during the month was surprising, but after Dante’s masterful dissection of the data, the group agrees there is a lot to like in the report. After the stats game, they discussion turns to the recent surge in long-term interest rates and how big a threat it poses to the economy.Follow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn for additional insight.

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01:27:45

Approaching Shutdown, Asian Flip-Flop

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/09/29

The fast approaching federal government shutdown is top of mind on this week’s podcast. Mark and Cris consider how the shutdown may play out and the economic consequences. Two other colleagues, Steve Cochrane and Stefan Angrick, then join the conversation to assess the all important Chinese and Japanese economies. Are the economic fortunes of these two massive economies flip-flopping?For China and Japan: Facing History, a book outlining the strained historical relationship between these two

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01:25:35

Economic Threats & Exponential Risk

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/09/22

Inside Economics welcomes Rob Fauber, President and CEO of Moody’s Corporation to the podcast. He discusses his concept of exponential risk and the opportunities and challenges of using AI. Rob shares what it's like to lead a global firm and answers a few get-to-know-you questions from Mark, Cris and Marisa. But before the conversation with Rob, the team discusses how worried they are about various economic threats and their potential impact on the macroeconomic economy. Guest: Rob Fauber,

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01:17:53

Smoke On the UAW Strike

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/09/14

The looming UAW strike is top of mind, and no one better to talk to about how it may play out and what it means for the economy than Jonathan Smoke of COX Automotive and our own vehicle industry expert, Mike Brisson. Bernard Yaros also joins the podcast to talk about the consumer inflation report. Mark and Cris agree that while the current economic numbers look good, there’s plenty to worry about.For more from Jonathan Smoke, click hereFollow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and

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01:15:33

AI and a Bit of Advertising

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/09/08

Given the strong counter narratives regarding the impact of artificial intelligence on the economy – from bright optimism that AI will significantly lift productivity growth and wealth to dark pessimism that it will lead to a dystopic increase in unemployment and cybercrime – we asked Martin Fleming to sort it out. And the former chief economist of IBM and current author and Chief Revenue Scientist at Varicent does just that. And Mark does a bit of advertising along the way.For more about Martin

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01:10:05

Good Report, Great Music

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/09/01

The August jobs report couldn’t have been much better. Dante and Cris called it a good report, while Mark and Marisa thought it was a VERY good report. Either way, the report has soft landing written all over it. In standing with the good cheer over the jobs numbers, the group recounted their favorite music. Some surprises there.For the full transcript, click hereFollow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn for additional insight.

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01:18:56

What Could Go Wrong?

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/08/25

The economy is performing about as well as could be expected. Growth is resilient, inflation is moderating, and unemployment is low and stable. It appears increasingly likely the economy will avoid a recession. But having said this, the Federal Reserve’s aggressive rate hikes are weighing heavily on the financial system and economy. To avoid a recession, nothing else can go wrong. In this podcast, Mark, Cris and team consider what could go wrong. For the full transcript, click hereFollow Mark Zandi

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01:17:48

Top of Mind, Turbulent Financial Times

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/08/18

Despite the light week of economic data, there was lots going in in the economy to discuss for the Inside Economics team, including the runup in 10-year Treasury yields and fixed mortgage rates. Noted investment banker Chris Whalen then joins the conversation to talk about the banking system, its’ under significant pressure, the independent mortgage banks, a shakeout is underway, and the Fed and other regulators, he’s not a fan.For more on Chris Whalen, click hereFor the full transcript, click

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01:30:43

Banner Inflation, Banking Braves Out

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/08/11

The Inside Economics team dissects the July report on consumer price inflation and concludes that inflation is on track to be back to the Fed’s inflation target by this time next year. Well, OK, Cris thought more likely the end of next year. The discussion then turned to modest fallout from the banking crisis earlier this year (at least so far) and Fed policy with University of Maryland economics professor Sebnem Kalemli-Ozcan.For more from Sebnem Kalemli-Ozcan, click hereFor the full transcript,

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00:52:28

Near Perfect, New Probability

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/08/04

It’s jobs Friday, and Mark, Cris and Dante discuss the near perfect (Dante’s description) July employment report. Job growth remains strong, but it is moderating, and should help convince the Federal Reserve that its interest rates hikes are over. The group identified a few nits in the numbers, but the report was so good Cris lowered his odds the economy will suffer a recession in the coming year. For the full transcript, click hereFollow Mark Zandi @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis @MiddleWayEcon, and

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01:22:34

Perfect PCE, Problematic Politics

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2023/07/28

Mark, Cris and Marisa (yes, she is back) welcome Matt Robison of the Beyond Politics podcast to talk policy and politics. The discussion ranges from the risk of a government shutdown and Bidenomics to a consideration of whether the nation’s politics are as fractured as they seem and who is going to be the next President. It goes without saying there was also a fulsome conversation about this past week’s economic data - could the numbers have been any better? Even “supercore” inflation was up just

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