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Perpetual Traffic

Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today. Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case

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37:20

Stop Wasting Your Time on MQLs: 5 Steps to Get More SQLs

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/11/26

Ralph and Lauren tackle the challenges marketers and business owners face when managing lead generation and sales processes. They break down the critical differences between Marketing Qualified Leads (MQLs) and Sales Qualified Leads (SQLs) and share actionable strategies for optimizing ad algorithms and leveraging CRM data effectively. The conversation highlights the power of transparency and alignment within teams and with agency partners to maximize ROI. With a focus on practical insights, they

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49:13

The 3 Big CRO Myths DEBUNKED with Raphael Paulin-Daigle

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2024/11/22

Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo tackle some of the biggest misconceptions about Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO) with industry expert Raphael Paulin-Daigle. They dig into why obsessing over conversion rates alone can backfire and why metrics like lifetime value (LTV) and average order value (AOV) matter more in the long run. The discussion also hits on how platforms like TikTok are shaking up the CRO space and what that means for modern businesses. Raphael shares his story of turning a passion for

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01:01:38

[INSANE Case Study] How to Spend LESS & Make MORE on...

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2024/11/19

Ralph and John dig into a case study that flips conventional marketing on its head, showing how rethinking ad spend can drive unexpected results. They explore why focusing on Media Efficiency Ratio (MER) instead of ROAS can uncover hidden opportunities for growth. Through examples and real-time analysis, they reveal strategies for reallocating budgets, cutting unnecessary costs, and achieving better outcomes. Along the way, they take live questions and break down how metrics can reshape business

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01:01:51

YouTube vs. TV: Which Is Better?

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2024/11/15

Ralph and John Moran get into the complexities of multi-channel attribution, with a strong focus on YouTube's challenges and potential for growth. He and John break down how businesses can better understand YouTube’s role in driving conversions, even when the platform's metrics might make it seem like the weak link. They talk about real-world testing strategies, including post-purchase surveys and ad copy tweaks, to capture a clear picture of what works. By taking a holistic approach, Ralph explains

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38:44

What Worked in 2024 that We Want to Double Down on in...

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2024/11/12

Lauren Petrullo welcomes Eddie Maalouf, founder of BAD Marketing, to discuss strategies for navigating the evolving marketing landscape. They talk about how affiliate marketing, influencer trust, and tailored content creation are shifting in 2025, especially for e-commerce, local businesses, and info products. Eddie shares firsthand insights on creating impactful ads, handling post-holiday marketing, and using AI effectively without overcomplicating campaigns. This conversation dives into what's

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31:19

The 3 Most Frequently Asked Questions from Marketers...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/11/08

Ralph talks about the big questions clients are asking as they gear up for 2025: planning strategies, managing campaign expectations, and optimizing ad performance. He breaks down examples from brands across various sectors—covering everything from case studies on large national brands to niche and hospitality businesses. Ralph shares insights on how Tier 11 approaches campaign iterations, creative strategies for user-generated content, and the layered landscape of influencer marketing. This episode

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35:56

7 Key Takeaways to Supercharge Your Business Growth...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/11/05

Ralph and Lauren talk about the value of in-person connections and insights from recent conferences. Ralph shares his experiences from a Smart Marketer event, pointing out the importance of networking beyond scheduled sessions and the impact of an engaged audience. Lauren adds her perspective, gearing up for WebinarCon, where she anticipates learning cutting-edge techniques in webinar funneling. Together, they discuss key takeaways, from maximizing product launches through presales to scaling

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33:51

[BodySculpting Case Study] How We Made $2,304,177 in...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/11/01

Ralph and Lauren are talking about the power of brand-building and marketing strategies that go beyond typical sales tactics. They explore how case studies from diverse industries—like the spa and beauty sectors—point out the importance of a full-funnel approach, from initial brand awareness to strategic entry offers that pave the way for higher-value conversions. Drawing from real client results, they stress the value of patient, data-informed decisions and share insights on crafting a layered

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53:34

How to Charismatically Market Your Business Like...

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2024/10/29

Ralph and Lauren dive into the importance of authenticity in personal and business branding. They discuss how letting unique traits shine can create a memorable and compelling brand identity. They also tackle the impact of charisma and the role of bold, sometimes polarizing choices in differentiating yourself from competitors. Discussing that standing out means attracting the right audience and being unafraid to repel others, Ralph and Lauren explore how leaning into one’s true personality can be a

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01:01:14

How Radioactive Octopus Balls Made Us Better Marketers

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/10/25

Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo dig into the dynamics of masterminds and how they shape the business landscape. They share their experiences from attending high-ticket masterminds and discuss takeaways for business owners, including the importance of creative fatigue in marketing, how AI-generated images are disrupting LinkedIn ads, and why sleep hygiene is crucial for entrepreneurial success. Their reflections offer both humor and insight, giving you a glimpse into the challenges and rewards of

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58:26

The 2-Step Google Strategy to Blow Up Your Service or...

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2024/10/22

Ralph Burns and chief strategist John Moran from Tier 11 break down a detailed case study focused on optimizing a Google ad campaign for a service-based client. They discuss the challenges of scaling in competitive markets using a two-step strategy combining TCPA and MaxClicks campaigns. John talks about how they achieved a 140% revenue increase while reducing ad spend by 27%, providing insights into managing media efficiency and gaining early wins. It's a deep dive into the mechanics of ad

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49:02

[‘Case’ Case Study] How Tier 11 Grew this eComm Brand...

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2024/10/18

Ralph and Lauren dig into a case study that showcases how data-driven decisions can bring major growth. They walk through a real-world example of how focusing on creative strategies and identifying key target audiences led to a 40% year-over-year increase in sales. Ralph and Lauren talk about the power of analyzing both demographic data and customer acquisition costs, making a strong case for why businesses need to focus on simplicity and precision in their marketing. Curious about how to double

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58:33

Declassified: Secret Meta Ad Creative Strategies...

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2024/10/15

Ralph Burns and John Moran are joined by Lauren Schwartz, of The Loft 325, to talk about the significant role that creative strategy plays in digital marketing, particularly when paired with effective media buying. They discuss the importance of merging creative elements with data-driven traffic strategies, focusing on how user-generated content (UGC) performs compared to more product-focused ads. They explore a specific case study involving pet wellness ads, analyzing why certain ads—especially

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58:48

Meta Vs. Google: Enemies No More? How They Work...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/10/11

Ralph Burns and John Moran discuss the evolving synergy between Meta and Google, taking a look at how these two platforms can work together to drive powerful marketing results. They revisit the legendary Michigan Method and adapt it for 2024, revealing innovative strategies for scaling ad campaigns and optimizing creative testing at scale. With in-depth insights into advanced techniques for audience targeting, budget management, and real-time campaign adjustments, this episode offers cutting-edge

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40:05

Fire Your Overpriced Marketing Consultant & Use AI...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/10/08

AI marketing expert Russ Henneberry is sharing his advice on how marketers can leverage AI tools to their full potential. From his journey in digital marketing to the creation of AI marketing hubs, Russ will walk you through the usual mistakes marketers make with AI and how to solve them by customizing AI to your specific business needs. Be sure to tune in to hear how to overcome the "cold start" problem and use AI to enhance your content creation, copywriting, and overall marketing

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35:01

The 5 Laws to Achieve Your Dreams: Bob Burg’s Proven...

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2024/10/04

Ralph and Lauren welcome Bob Burg, author of The Go-Giver, to discuss the opinion that true success in business comes from focusing on giving value rather than just getting results. Bob breaks down the philosophy of putting others first and how doing so can actually lead to greater success, both financially and relationally. Bob also talks about the five laws of stratospheric success he wrote about in his book. The five laws are the Law of Value, the Law of Compensation, the Law of Influence, the

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46:26

How to Target ACTUAL Cold Traffic on Meta (Hint: It’s...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/10/01

Ralph and Lauren talk about the challenges of Meta’s audience segmentation and how to drive better results by focusing on new customer acquisition. Joined by Scott Desgrosseilliers, they break down key marketing performance indicators and share strategies for building effective funnels, analyzing traffic, and optimizing campaigns. With insights into attribution, trends, and preparing for Black Friday, this episode provides practical tips for scaling traffic and improving return on ad spend. Plus,

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41:16

How to Create a Killer AI Chatbot in 4 Steps

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/09/27

Ralph and Lauren are discussing the challenges of balancing business growth with client work, all while managing travel and life on the go. They share tips on how leadership meetings can keep your team aligned and reveal exciting announcements about their own businesses. Ralph and Lauren also break down the growing role of chatbots and AI in handling customer service, including when to introduce them and how they can save time and money. Tune in to hear examples of how AI is transforming business

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39:05

3 Essential Marketing Performance Indicators You’re...

Perpetual Traffic ·

2024/09/24

Ralph Burns, Lauren Petrullo, and Scott Desgrosseilliers talk about how to measure marketing success using specific performance indicators. They break down the importance of tracking new website visits, the cost of acquiring new customers, and how to use tools like Wicked Reports to make smarter decisions with ad spend. The conversation also touches on how to balance cold and warm traffic, and how these metrics can guide a company's growth strategy. If you want to understand how data can improve

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58:37

(Part 2)How to Use TikTok Ads The Right Way to Grow...

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2024/09/20

Ralph and Lauren welcome Bahar Bozdogan and Sheraz Amin to the show. They discuss how TikTok has evolved from a fun app for dances and memes into a serious marketing tool for businesses. The experts talk about the power of measurement, attribution, and lead generation on the platform. Exploring how brands can use TikTok’s tools to understand customer behavior, improve ad performance, and even drive e-commerce sales through TikTok Shops. If you're curious about how TikTok can work for your business,

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