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That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they"re based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have

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122:35

Ballerina w/ Matthew Lillard

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/07/11

This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo). This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike. SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 Vanity Fair The Daily Mail Cleveland.com Syracuse.com The Florida Times-Union Los Angeles

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114:13

Forgiving Rollins w/ Dreama Walker

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/07/04

In this episode, Liza and Kara cover “Forgiving Rollins” (Season 16, Episode 10), discuss the crimes of former Canadian colonel Russell Williams, and speak to the delightful Dreama Walker (Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23, Compliance). SOURCES: Wikipedia - Russell Williams (criminal) The New York Times Toronto Star Maclean's CBC Vancouver Is Awesome: Vancouver News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Legal Help For Sex Discrimination And Harassment Next week’s episode will be “Ballerina” (Season 10,

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121:22

PTSD w/ Dominic Fumusa

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/06/27

This week Kara and Liza recap “PTSD” (Season 10, Episode 9), investigate the murder of Maria Lauterbach, and have a thrilling chat with the talented Dominic Fumusa (Nurse Jackie, Sex and the City). SOURCES: CBS News CNN 1 CNN 2 The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 Dayton Daily News The Columbus Dispatch Army.mil NBC News 1 NBC News 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Sexual Violence in the Military: A Guide for Civilian Advocates Next

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123:03

October Surprise w/ Kirk Acevedo

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/06/20

This week Liza and Kara recap “October Surprise” (Season 15, Episode 6), dissect the infamous Anthony Weiner saga, and speak to the phenomenal Kirk Acevedo (Oz, Band of Brothers). SOURCES: CNN The New York Times Wikipedia - Anthony Weiner sexting scandals New York Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Weiner (2016) Documentary Next week’s episode will be “PTSD” (Season 10, Episode 9). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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137:18

Privilege w/ Michael Learned

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/06/13

Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Privilege” (Season 4, Episode 17), discuss both the William Kennedy Smith rape allegations and the murder of Shiori Ino, and have a delightful chat with the legendary Michael Learned (The Waltons, Dahmer). The Party Is Cancelled https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-local-correspondents/the-party-is-cancelled SOURCES: WikiSummaries - William Kennedy Smith Is Accused of Rape Summary Savvy Tokyo News24 Japan Today The Japan Times Medium History.com CBS News Los

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130:07

Alien w/ Amy Pietz

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/06/06

On this episode, Kara and Liza break down “Alien” (Season 7, Episode 11), discuss the infuriating Sharon Bottoms Mattes case, and talk to the electric Amy Pietz (Caroline in the City, The Office). SOURCES: Los Angeles Times The Advocate The Washington Post The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 National Center for State Courts www.jmichaelbone.com Psych Central www.pvalaw.com Stop Abuse Campaign Wikipedia - Richard A. Gardner The Leadership Council Foundation for Child Victims of the Family

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123:33

Diss w/ Amber Stevens West

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/05/30

This week Liza and Kara recap “Diss” (Season 20, Episode 22) and highlight several high-profile celebrity controversies including the Kim Kardashian Paris robbery and the Jay-Z / Nas feud. Plus, they have a wonderful chat with the talented Amber Stevens West (The Carmichael Show, 22 Jump Street). SOURCES: Highsnobiety NBC News Pitchfork CNN Newsweek Buzzfeed News 1 Buzzfeed News 2 Vanity Fair VICE WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Using Snapchat to Rob

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134:49

Comic Perversion w/ Jonathan Silverman

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/05/23

Today Liza and Kara recap “Comic Perversion” (Season 15, Episode 15). They analyze the charges against comedian Adam Scott Richmond and the crimes of another comedian Vince Champ. Plus, they have a wonderful convo with the great Jonathan Silverman (Weekend at Bernie's, Brighton Beach Memoirs). SOURCES: Complex The Guardian Los Angeles Times Wikipedia - Vince Champ Quad-City Times CBS News Bring Me The News Star Tribune WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Comedy Gives

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128:53

Asunder w/ Nestor Serrano

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/05/16

This week Kara and Liza break down “Asunder” (Season 2, Episode 7), discuss the ousting of former Boston police commissioner Dennis White, and have a lively chat with the prolific Nestor Serrano (24, Revenge). SOURCES: ScienceDirect WBUR-FM 1 WBUR-FM 2 WBUR-FM 3 USA Today The Washington Post The New York Times CommonWealth Magazine Wikipedia - Marty Walsh Boston Herald WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Pandora's Project https://pandys.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Comic Perversion” (Season 15, Episode

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112:38

Parole Violations w/ Michael Chernus

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/05/09

On this week’s episode Kara and Liza cover “Parole Violations” (Season 16, Episode 17), they discuss the unsettling Cierra Ross case, and have a fantastic conversation with the delightful Michael Chernus (Severance, Dead Ringers). SOURCES: WLKY WAVE HuffPost NBC Chicago CBS News Raw Story WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Anti-Recidivism Coalition https://antirecidivism.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Asunder” (Season 2, Episode 7). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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125:45

Inconceivable w/ Kevin Kane

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/05/02

On this week’s episode Liza and Kara break down “Inconceivable” (Season 9, Episode 14), discuss the fascinating story behind Ashley X, and have a great chat with Kevin Kane (Inside Amy Schumer, Life & Beth). SOURCES: Wikipedia - Ashley Treatment National Library of Medicine The Guardian Forbes The Arizona Republic People WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Chick Mission https://www.thechickmission.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Parole Violations” (Season 16, Episode 17). Learn more about your ad

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117:44

Inheritance w/ Nelson Lee

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/04/25

Today Kara and Liza recap “Inheritance” (Season 3, Episode 8), they analyze the disgusting crimes of “The Beast of the Bastille," and they have a delightful convo with actor Nelson Lee (Stargirl, Mulan). SOURCES: Newsweek The Guardian Wikipedia - Guy Georges WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Things to Know If You Love a Multiracial Child https://www.embracerace.org/resources/topic/resources-for-raising-mixed-race-children Next week’s episode will be “Inconceivable” (Season 9, Episode 14). Learn more

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118:30

Branded w/ Bess Rous

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/04/18

On this week’s episode Liza and Kara break down “Branded” (Season 12, Episode 6). They dissect two separate true crimes - the Richard Lee McNair prison break and the Masami Yoshinaga rape case. They also have a fantastic conversation with the wonderful Bess Rous (Murder in the First, Renfield). SOURCES: Wikipedia - Millennium (novel series) Wikipedia - Richard Lee McNair Wikipedia - 1995 Okinawa rape incident Los Angeles Times The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 CNN WHAT

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151:44

Lost Reputation & Above Suspicion w/ Paget Brewster

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/04/11

Today Kara and Liza recap two monumental SVU episodes “Lost Reputation” & “Above Suspicion” (Season 14, Episodes 1 & 2), they explore the wild escapades of the Anna Gristina and Jason Itzler escort rivalry, and they chat with the phenomenal Paget Brewster (Criminal Minds, Friends). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 The New York Times 6 The New York Times 7 The New York Times 8 The New York Times 9 The New York Times

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119:52

Haystack w/ Ashley Williams

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/04/04

This week Liza and Kara discuss “Haystack” (Season 8, Episode 15), they cover the tragic death of Melinda Duckett, and they have a joyous convo with the effervescent Ashley Williams (How I Met Your Mother, Sister Swap). SOURCES: Newsweek Sarasota Herald-Tribune Wikipedia - Death of Melinda Duckett Bay News 9 The Seattle Times Florida State Department of Children & Families 1 Florida State Department of Children & Families 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: LifeWire https://www.lifewire.org/ Next week’s

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138:47

Unholiest Alliance w/ Robert John Burke

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/03/28

On this week’s episode Kara and Liza recap the second half of a two-parter with “Unholiest Alliance” (Season 17, Episode 18), they dive into the horrific true crime cover-up behind the murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, and they have a moving conversation with the magnificent Robert John Burke (Rescue Me, Wakanda Forever). SOURCES: Netflix - The Keepers New York Post 1 New York Post 2 New York Daily News Daily Mail WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Survivors Network of those Abused by

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113:02

Manhattan Transfer w/ Abigail Savage

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/03/21

Today Kara and Liza discuss the first episode of a two-parter, “Manhattan Transfer” (Season 17, Episode 17). They also analyze the pivotal work of the undercover Catholic nun organization Talitha Kum and have a great convo with actor Abigail Savage (Orange Is the New Black). SOURCES: Huffington Post TalithaKum.info 1 TalithaKum.info 2 NBC News YouTube - Currents News Ms. Magazine Catholic News Agency The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Talitha Kum https://www.talithakum.info/en Next week’s

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121:01

Poisoned Motive w/ Jessica Camacho

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/03/14

This week Liza and Kara cover the episode “Poisoned Motive” (Season 14, Episode 22), explore the unsettling Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt, and speak to the effervescent Jessica Camacho (The Flash, Watchmen). SOURCES: Los Angeles Times 1 Los Angeles Times 2 Wikipedia - Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt Police 1 Cornell Law NPR WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Cohen Veterans Network https://www.cohenveteransnetwork.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Manhattan Transfer” (Season 17, Episode

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129:03

Pattern Seventeen w/ Josh Pais

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/03/07

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pattern Seventeen” (Season 16, Episode 9), discuss the horrific crimes of Charles William Davis, Jr., and chat with the magnificent Josh Pais (Funny Pages, Ray Donovan). SOURCES: Wikipedia - Charles William Davis The Washington Post Reno Evening Gazette The Baltimore Sun Justia US Law Criminalminds.fandom.com Murderpedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: https://www.endthebacklog.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Poisoned Motive” (Season 14, Episode 22). Learn

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138:11

Chasing Theo w/ Rachelle Lefevre

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/02/28

Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Chasing Theo” (Season 18, Episode 8), analyze both the disappearance of Melissa Brannen and the Goldman child abduction case, and have a great convo with Rachelle Lefevre (Twilight, Under the Dome). SOURCES: The Washington Post 1 The Washington Post 2 The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 The New York Times 6 The New York Times 7 Today Naples Daily News Homefacts: Neighborhood

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