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The TEC Talk Podcast: Presented by Natural Encounters, Inc.

Natural Encounters, Inc.

Join co-hosts Chris and Ari for a discussion of animal training, behavior, human-animal relationships, and all things NEI-TEC (the Natural Encounters Inc Training and Education Center), and featuring guests from the NEI team and around the professional animal care world! Email us at podcast@naturalencounters.com if you have a question or something you"d like us to discuss on the show!

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Episode 162: Disaster Response (with ZDR3's Julia...

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2023/05/25

Ari hosts while Chris is stuck on a train somewhere in Europe, but it's far from a disaster because Julia Wagner, ZDR3's Executive Director, joins the show to talk about all things disaster response, from hurricane season to mental health support. Julia shares with us the inner workings of the ZDR3 network and how they response when a disaster strikes. This important episode will get you thinking about your facility's plans to deal with the unimaginable and provide some comfort in knowing there are

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Episode 161: Best. Zoom. Background. EVER!

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2023/05/18

Ari is back in Orlando so Chris had to flee Florida again - too much podcasting power to keep in one city! Ari recounts her time at AZA Croc School, while Chris shares his adventures bopping around Lake Geneva in Switzerland and the his experinces with the questionable taxidermy of the UK as he tags along on his wife's work trip. Who, incidentally, is not a spy. Nope. Not at all. Have a question or a topic you'd like us to discuss on a future episode? Let us know at

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Episode 160: Return of the TEC Talk Book Club...

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2023/05/11

With Ari busy teaching a training course at Croc School (who knew crocs even went to school, amazing!), our hosts meet up via the power of the Internet for another TEC Talk Book Club episode about Crucial Conversations! This time we cover Chapters 7 (STATE My Path), 8 (Explore Others' Paths), and 9 (Move to Action) - let's conversate! Have a suggestion for a topic or a theme for a future episode? By all means, let us know at podcast@naturalencounters.com!

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Episode 159: Spending Time in the Messy Middle Bit...

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2023/05/04

May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and Chris and Ari are very excited to be joined by Shannon McKinney and Hannah Fulmer from GRAZE (Growing Resiliency for Aquarium and Zoo Professionals)! After a bit of background about their histories in the animal care field and how it lead to the formation of GRAZE, Shannon and Hannah help us dig into a lot of great topics: the importance of taking responsibility for one's mental health, looking at the "other side of the coin" to talk about things like "post

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Episode 158: One Order of Show Feedback, Hold the...

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2023/04/27

Chris and Ari share a microphone to discuss how they provide show feedback! They discuss the general format for how and when they present it, share some specific notes from shows they've watched in the past (because neither of them ever delete Notes from their phones), contemplate how starting a feedback session with a positive note is not the same thing as the infamous "poop sandwich", and share tips for how to make giving and receiving show feedback easy and welcome. Have a question or a topic

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Episode 157: Happy Third Anniversary, TEC Talk!

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2023/04/20

Despite being separated by 4,700 miles and the Pacific Ocean, Ari and Chris sit down to celebrate the third anniversary of the TEC Talk Podcast! We share our highlights from the last three years and hopes for the future of the show - thank you to everyone who's come along for the ride with us and supported the show by listening! Have a questions or a topic you'd like us to discuss on one of our future episodes? Let us know at podcast@naturalencounters.com!

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Episode 156: Listener Feedback for Pod-iversary Eve

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2023/04/13

With the third anniversary of the show looming, Ari and Chris reflect on some emails and show reviews we've recently received, tease an upcoming episode with some exciting guests, take a look at our listenership's current geographic breakdown, and count down our current Top 10 "most experienced" episodes! Have a topic you'd like us to discuss, or wanna come join us on the show? Let us know at podcast@naturalencounters.com! Links from the episode: "Suffering in Silence: Caring for research animals

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Episode 155: Out of Control! (with Steve Martin)

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2023/04/06

Chris is in Arkansas doing his best to dodge tornados, so this week Ari has the opportuntiy to sit down with the one and only Steve Martin (President/CEO of Natural Encounters, Inc.) to talk about one of his favorite training topics: control! They discuss what it is, how to utilize it as a reinforcer in training sessions, and how to give control away. Don't miss this deep dive into this important - and sometimes overlooked - primary reinforcers. Have a questions or something you'd like us to

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Episode 154: The TEC Talk Book Club Strikes Back...

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2023/03/30

The TEC Talk Book Club returns to cover chapters 4-6 of Crucial Conversations with NEI's Bella Sorensson! Having just completed the book with the other awesome folks of the original NEI Book Club, Bella joins us to talk about the chapters "Learn to Look", "Make it Safe", and "Master Your Stories". We compare the book's terminology with the words we use for the same concepts in animal training ("hot terms," anyone?), share our own tendencies on the "Silence and Violence" chart, and Google the

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Episode 153: We Have Different Viewpoints of What...

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2023/03/23

Chris returns from his second bout with COVID-19 to join Ari in welcoming three cool people to the podcast, BirdTricks' Dave and Jamie Womach, and Master Falconer Daryl Peterson! We chat about the unusual path that took the Womachs from a traveling family on the road with Dave's work as a "thrillusionist" (see, we're not the only ones with crazy jobs!) to the founders of a company dedicated to "saving parrots one person at a time," to meeting up with Daryl to learn more about birds of prey and the

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Episode 152: Professional Relationships with Animals

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2023/03/16

Chris is out sick and Ari is up at the crack of dawn to bring you this Morning Coffee SoloCast! Join her as she shares some thoughts on professional relationships with animals. As Ari ponders her decision to take her dog in for surgery she explores our relationships with the animals we care for and how we can set healthy boundaries that help us make the best decisions for the animals in our care without having our judgment clouded by emotions. Have a question or a topic you'd like us to discuss on

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Episode 151: So Many Good Steves! (Live from the 2023...

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2023/03/09

Greetings from the 2023 ABMA-IMATA Joint Conference in Atlanta! Chris sits down with fellow ABMA Board Members and all-around awesome people Christina Lavallee from Zoo Atlanta, Justin Garner from Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, Shane Gorbett from Columbus Zoo and Aquarium, and Scott Trauger from Natural Encounters, Inc., to chat about how the conference has gone so far, and about what we're excited about for the rest of the week. We discuss the opportunity for the newest people in the field to be

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Episode 150: Welcome to the TEC Talk Book Club!...

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2023/03/02

The show returns to its influenza roots to celebrate 150 episodes with Ari home sick (just the regular flu, thank you very much) and Chris at work, talking into separate microphones, to discuss the first three chapters of the much-referenced and highly recommended book Crucial Conversations! This is the first episode in a series of episodes that will cover the entirety of the book in monthly chunks - more info soon on when we'll be covering more of the book for folks who would like to follow along

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Episode 149: Better Humans All Around (with Shelby...

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2023/02/23

Ari and Chris sit down for a chat with Bearizona's very own Shelby Jecius! Shelby shares the path through the animal field that lead to her current role as a Supervisor at the wildlife park, and (after getting "voluntold" to be a guest on the show by fellow Bearizona Supervisor, Kyle Alexander) to share how the book "Crucial Conversations" has helped her become a better leader, communicator, and animal trainer. Shelby is definitely someone who talks the talk and walks the walk, and we're so happy to

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Episode 148: Pet Floofy Kittens (Live from the 2023...

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2023/02/16

Ari sits down after the 2023 IAATE Conference Icebreaker with some of the amazing attendees and board members to talk about what they're looking forward to at this year's conference. They chat about fish behavior, turtle collanders, magical alligator trainers, carrot gavels, and PTSD (Peacock Trauma Swamp Disorder). Big thank you to Marco Zeno, Kristin Dean, Erin Katzner, Josh Kuszmaul, Jose Bello, Helen Dishaw, and Kit Lacy for joining in the fun! Have a question or a topic you'd like us to discuss

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Episode 147: The First Rule of Book Club is We Talk...

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2023/02/09

Chris is joined by NEI's Erik Montgomery, Clarie Santiago, Bella Sorensson, Kassidy King, Hunter Peck, and Cori Dawson to chat about the newly-launched NEI Book Club! We talk about the where the idea came from, how Crucial Conversations became the first title they're tackling, and how the process of getting vulnerable with each other over Zoom is going so far. These folks are the best and I'm so happy I got to spend time with them! Do you have an idea for a cool name for the new Book Club? Please

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Episode 146: Multitasking to Talk About Multitasking

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2023/02/02

What better way to demonstrate the challenges of multitasking than to record a podcast at 70mph? While pursuing different alternate routes to a meeting at the Ranch, Chris and Ari keep their eyes on the road while chatting about multitasking: digging into why it's a bad idea, why it's not even really tackling multiple tasks at once, findings that suggest that it could lead to long term cognitive and developmental problems, some alternatives that are safer, more efficient, and more effective, and the

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Episode 145: When "Helping the Animal" Hurts the...

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2023/01/26

After a discussion of the current global makeup of our listenership (based on some very dubious analytics), Ari and Chris (and Ari's dog, Archer) dig into the following training-related statement: "sometimes when we try to help the animal, we hurt the behavior." This chat goes all sorts of places, including... The problems with prompts The relationship between persistance and resiliency The roles that biology and control (maybe) play in intrinsic reinforcement Motivation's role in "grit" The

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Episode 144: Keep It 100! (with Adam Triska)

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2023/01/19

Ari and Chris sit down with NEI Senior Trainer Adam Triska to chat about his first day of shows as our newest stage presenter at The Theme Park Which Must Not Be Named (#SG@AW)! Adam talks about the pre-NEI experiences that lead up to this new achievement, his process of going from learning the script to doing the show in front of an audience, how he felt before, during, and after his first show, and getting feedback on his performance from the senior staff at the stage. Hooray for personal and

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Episode 143: Inspiration at the Shrub of Living...

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2023/01/12

Recorded LIVE at NEI's January 2023 Professional Contemporary Animal Training and Management Workshop, it's the TEC Talk Podcast! Chris sits down with some of the staff and attendees of the workshop to chat about how the week's gone so far: training highs, personal revelations, cool connections via "The Kingdom of Animals" and Moorpark's EATM program, and new ideas about how to close out our episodes are all discussed - big thanks to Elijah, Shelby, Meg, Erica, Jess, Hailey, Dan, and Kate for their

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