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Industry Relations

Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider"s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

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41:06

Headlines, Mid-Year, and Tax Free Proposals: A Hahn...

Industry Relations ·

2023/05/17

How is NAR doing at mid-year? Also, get Rob’s undivided attention as he reacts to the latest real estate headlines. It’s a special special Hahn solo episode of Industry Relations, as Rob breaks down everything you need to know about the recent NAR mid-year and even reveals his tax free proposal to combat housing issues. Don't miss out on all of the news and insights surrounding real estate — tune in for this can't-miss episode! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms

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47:32

Commission Lawsuits: Real Estate Armageddon or No Big...

Industry Relations ·

2023/05/10

It’s real estate armageddon! Ok, maybe not. But is it close? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent commission lawsuits that have been plaguing the real estate industry. In the Moehrl vs. the National Association of Realtors, et al. case, the plaintiffs are pursuing over $13 billion in damages as they claim that they had to incur a cost that ideally should have been paid by the homebuyers themselves in a fair and competitive market, which is the buyer's agent commission. Rob and Greg

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54:13

Why Real Estate Needs Separation of Church and State

Industry Relations ·

2023/05/03

What’s it like being a technology company in the world of real estate and MLS? And why does it seem like there needs to be some "separation of church and state." in real estate? Join Rob and Greg in this episode of Industry Relations as they chat with Stuart White, CEO at Realtracs. They delve into the tech side of real estate and why Realtracs is paving the way in treating MLS members. To see how Stuart and his team are leading real estate tech visit them at Realtracs. Listen to the podcast on

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45:18

Fear or Optimism: What Drives the Housing Market?

Industry Relations ·

2023/04/26

Do you fear the current state of the housing market? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the current market conditions and why it's important to approach the situation with a balanced perspective. While optimism is certainly warranted, it's crucial to acknowledge the reality of the situation and understand potential pitfalls that may arise. Tune in to this episode where Rob and Greg talk about why we need to temper optimism with reality. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all

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48:50

How Can We Make Housing Affordable For Everyone?

Industry Relations ·

2023/04/19

How can we make housing affordable for everyone? Rob and Greg explore how we can make housing more accessible and affordable for all. From creative solutions to policy changes, watch as we unpack the different strategies available to make housing affordability a reality. Tune in now to learn how you can help create a future where housing is within reach! Listen to the podcast on Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450 Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

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42:07

The Future of Real Estate Auctions

Industry Relations ·

2023/04/12

DPX–or Decentre Property Exchange–is an online marketplace for real estate. And it comes from the heart and mind of Rob Hahn as a potential solution to current real estate buyer/seller woes. As Rob states, DPX offers transparency, highest price for a property, efficiency, faster transactions, and a better consumer experience. It’s also duly noted that Rob Hahn, as the mind behind DPX, is treated in this episode more as a guest than a co-host as he is pretty much interviewed by the Fab Greg

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58:40

Moehrl v. NAR: Rob Walks Greg Back from the Ledge

Industry Relations ·

2023/04/05

Could we be witnessing the biggest lawsuit in American real estate? Moehrl v. NAR has officially turned into a class-action lawsuit, which could have major repercussions on how commissions are earned and paid. It could also mean the country’s largest organization for REALTORS could be in some serious financial trouble should the plaintiffs win their case. This episode of Industry Relations dives into the history of this lawsuit and what potential outcomes could be. Let’s go! Listen to the podcast on

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54:27

A Fresh New Way of Beating a Dead Horse

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/29

What should it take to be a realtor? And, perhaps a better question, what does it currently take to be a realtor? Homebuyers are using realtors more than ever before, but Rob seems to think that doesn’t mean realtors are performing better; in fact, it’s quite the opposite. This episode of Industry Relations dives into the world of the National Association of Realtors, the standards by which realtors operate, and whether or not today’s realtor is actually living up to the NAR’s own mission of

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54:11

SVB Failure: Good or Bad For Real Estate?

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/22

How will the Silicon Valley Bank failure affect real estate? Was the government stepping in a good move? Rob and Greg take a dive into the Silicon Valley Bank failure, exploring what caused it to crumble and how its collapse could shake up real estate. Was it a perfect storm or a moral hazard? Will it be good or bad for real estate? Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg:

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53:35

Movies, Music, and Anything But Real Estate

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/15

Rob and Greg are out this week. So here's one of Industry Relation most popular episodes: Is there anything Rob and Greg can’t banter about? Turns out, not really! In this special episode of Industry Relations, our two real estate gurus take a break from debating MLS, Zillow, and the housing market, and turn their attention to something far more important (or, at least more fun): the greatest movies of all time! And as one could presume, the debate gets quite heated. Listen to the Industry

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49:50

Scottsdale and Sister Wives

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/08

It’s the crisis no one is talking about…yet. Demographics and the dropping birth rate across the globe—just how could the changing family dynamic impact or be a predictor for the future of the housing market? From sister wives to banning online dating, Rob and Greg give us some interesting solutions to the birth rate crisis and explain why it’s something everybody should be paying attention to. BirthGap documentary link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6s8QlIGanA Listen to the Industry

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55:34

A Little Chat about ChatGPT and the Recent CoStar Move

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/01

Why is Andy Florance not acquiring Realtor.com? Could ChatGPT help us finally determine what the value of an MLS is? Just what is and isn’t copyrightable when it comes to real estate data? This episode of Industry Relations dives into recent CoStar moves, how AI is infiltrating real estate, and whether Rob and Greg are just making a big deal out of nothing. Toward the end of this episode, Rob and Greg dive into Sam DeBord’s recent article “The Value of MLS: ChatGPT, Commissions and the Other 4Cs,”

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54:24

The Big Why, the Key Issue, and the Consequences of...

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/22

Lawsuits are on the horizon – but how will it affect NAR and the real estate market? Why are these lawsuits even happening, and what’s the one issue that they revolve around? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg make their predictions for what the consequences of these lawsuits will be and whether or not you should be worried. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and

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43:34

The Impact of NAR vs DOJ

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/15

NAR wins a major hurdle in the DOJ antitrust probe. But what does it mean for the rest of the real estate industry? How will this affect other lawsuits? In this episode of Industry Rob and Greg do what they do best and give their take on the impact of the NAR and DOJ antitrust probe. Why Rob believes that this is far from over and why Greg thinks there’s going to be a lot of industry mistakes made in the near future. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to

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37:52

CoStar Buying Realtor.com Rumors

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/08

There's been a lot of talk lately about CoStar buying Realtor.com. Will it happen or is it just a rumor? What advantages would CoStar have if they do acquire Realtor.com? With a history of bold predictions and Nostrodamus-like moments, Rob and Greg share their thoughts on what’s most likely to happen. Find out why Rob believes multi-brands aren’t a good thing and Greg shares how this could help with CoStar’s SEO. Lots of thought experiments in this episode as they unravel the rumors behind CoStar’s

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50:15

Shifting Priorities of MLS Organizations

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/01

What are some of the shifting priorities at MLS organizations? Have you ever wondered what challenges MLS orgs are facing? In this episode on Industry Relations Greg chats with special guest, Katie Smithson CRO at CRMLS to to break down the transforming priorities within the field. Tune in for all the current industry intel and how MLS organizations are shifting priorities. Nestfully PR mentioned in the show. CRMLS Press Release Styldod Reach out to Katie either by email katie@crmls.org,

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53:10

Making Better Agents and Listings

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/25

Ever wondered how to get the most out of your listings and become a better agent? Making yourself a better agent and improve your listings is easier than you think. In this episode, Rob & Greg touch on the different technologies and marketing strategies that agents can use to get an edge in sales. Tune in for why Rob believes great photography is the best way and why Greg thinks it’s just putting lipstick on a pig and pricing is the best strategy. UPDATE 1-26-2023 A representative of Homes.com has

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56:45

How New Construction is Impacting the Housing Market

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/18

How does new construction and existing inventory affect the housing market? Rob and Greg unpack the complexities of new construction's influence on the housing market, with help from an actual expert Kevin Oakley with Do You Convert. In this episode, gain some unique insight into how new developments shape today’s property sector. Join us, as we take a deep dive into how new construction impacts the housing market. Link up with Kevin. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast

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45:13

Real Estate Economics in 2023

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/11

What’s the real estate market going to look like in 2023? 2022 was a lackluster year and with layoffs and new leadership in the industry what does it all mean? Rob and Greg take on these questions and utilize their amateur economic skills to the fullest in this episode. Another steak bet is on the line. So who’s going to be the one ending up buying a whole cow in this take on 2023 industry economics? Connect with Sharran Check out Mike Simonsen’s YouTube mentioned in the show Listen to the

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23:45

2022 Highlights from Industry Relations

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/04

What were the best moments and highlights in 2022 from Industry Relations? In this special episode we take a look back at some of the best times in the Industry Relations podcast. From the winners and losers between Zillow, Opendoor and the FTC; to Wall Street's take on real estate. This episode is packed with fun quotes; mentions of asteroids and red waves in the best way only Rob and Greg can say. Check out this 2022 highlights from Industry Relations. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast

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