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It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the

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25:39

Do You Have to Be Friends with Everyone? with Dr....

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/06/06

What should you do if someone wants to be friends, but you’re not into it? Boundaries are part of all human relationships, but they are TRICKY. This week, part two of our show about boundaries - how to make them, how to keep them, and sometimes, how to breach them - with special guest Dr. Alexandra Solomon, host of Reimagining Love. Notable quotes: Boundaries are essentially “need negotiation” between humans. - Megan Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your

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27:11

Tricky Boundaries & Skillful Negotiation with Dr....

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/05/30

What do you do when someone cuts you out of their life? How do you back away slowly from someone you really don’t want to be around? Boundaries are part of all human relationships, but they are TRICKY. This week, part one of our show about boundaries - how to make them, how to keep them, and sometimes, how to breach them - with special guest Dr. Alexandra Solomon, host of Reimagining Love. Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail,call us at (323)

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37:08

Do I Stay or Do I Go? Caregivers Under Stress; with...

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2022/05/23

It’s no secret that healthcare professionals and caregivers of all kinds are stretched beyond their limits. We can’t look to healthcare systems themselves to give us the care and attention we need, so where CAN we go for support (and answers)? Don’t miss this week’s episode with guests Koshin Paley Ellison and Chodo Robert Campbell of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care. To submit your questions by voicemail,call us at (323) 643-3768or visit megandevine.co In

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25:15

The Love-Filled World

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/05/16

You ever feel like there’s not enough love and support to go around? Like, there’s a severe shortage of compassion in the world, both for you and well, everyone? Me too, friends. This episode is basically my TED talk, if I had one, on how we create that support-filled world we all want (and deserve). It’s my personal favorite episode of season one. In this episode we cover: Why comparing divorce to death, or pet loss to child loss, is a Very. Bad. Idea. (usually) Is it ok to be

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32:02

Lost In Translation: Relationships Under Stress

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/05/09

This week on the show, we're talking about something that pretty much everyone can relate to: wonky interpersonal relationships. Even in the best of times, human relationships can be tricky. Honestly, it's a wonder we create the social bonds we do considering how many things get in the way of a good connection. Tune in to find out how to help nice people get better at helping you, and how to step out of endless arguments that aren’t going anywhere. Don’t miss it! In this episode we

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30:37

What Happens to Childhood Grief When You Grow Up?

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/05/02

Our early childhood experiences of grief - and how our family systems dealt with loss - have a huge impact on our adult behaviors and relationships. This week, author Allyson Dinneen (Notes from Your Therapist) joins me as we discuss generational grief stories. We also have the first of many conversations addressing your number one most asked question: how does a grieving therapist (or another healthcare provider) go back to work? About this week’s guest: Allyson Dinneen is a marriage and

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37:05

Grief By Any Other Name: Looking Back to Look Ahead

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/04/25

Episode 20! We made it to the end of season one! This week, a conversation with co-producer Tanya Juhasz on our favorite moments of season one, and why it’s so hard to get people to listen to a show about difficult things - like grief. Bonus: we discuss how grief gets passed down in family systems, and how grown ups can give their kids what they wished they’d had for themselves. Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail,call us at (323) 643-3768or

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28:37

Palliative Care Is For Everyone (yeah, even YOU) with...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/04/18

Wait, isn't palliative care something hospice does before somebody dies? Well, yes, but that’s just part of the story: palliative care covers a whole lot of health conditions, even temporary medical health setbacks. Palliative care is like symptom relief for the emotional challenges of being alive. Doesn't that sound really interesting? Find out what it is, and why it applies to YOU in this week’s episode. Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by

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28:53

Shouldn’t You Be Used to That By Now? Human feelings...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/04/11

If you work in an industry where loss is all around you, do you ever get used to it? Should you get used to it? Is there any way TO get used to it? With questions from a fitness instructor that lead us into discussions about emotions and boundaries and the risks of being human in the workplace - if you’ve ever wondered if you should be better at turning off the pain around you, this one’s for you. PS: if you’ve got friends or family working in tough professions (including the fitness industry!), be

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33:33

Unequal Loads: Women and Caregiving Stress

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/04/04

The division of labor inside a family system is never equal, is it. What happens when grief hits the main caregiver, and they just can’t keep giving? This week on the show, we discuss gender roles, invisible labor, and the redistribution of the workload inside families, with special guests Eve Rodsky and Dr. Aditi Nerurkar of the Timeout: A Fair Play podcast. Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.coIn this

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24:20

What’s the Deal with Prolonged Grief Disorder (and...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/03/28

PROLONGED GRIEF DISORDER! It’s everywhere - social media, The New York Times, The Washington Post… it’s the hot new medical condition everyone’s talking about. But why is everyone so mad about it? This week on the show, an overview of this hotly contested “new” human disorder, and what it means for the average person, for healthcare providers, and honestly - for the whole world. This is one medical diagnosis that affects everyone. Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by

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36:43

Protecting Your Mental Health in the Healthcare...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/03/21

We know that healthcare workers are burned out and exhausted. Provider mental health is a huge issue… but are the institutions listening? This week, burnout expert Dr. Jessi Gold talks to us about (obviously) burnout, but also ways HCW* can start to change the workplace culture into one that actually values their human workforce. Sound unlikely? Listen in to find out. *We talk a bunch about HCW in this episode, but the topics involved are relevant to everyone who feels even a little bit exhausted

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25:25

Do You Have to Be Friends with Everyone? with Dr....

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/03/14

What should you do if someone wants to be friends, but you’re not into it? Boundaries are part of all human relationships, but they are TRICKY. This week, part two of our show about boundaries - how to make them, how to keep them, and sometimes, how to breach them - with special guest Dr. Alexandra Solomon, host of Reimagining Love.Notable quotes: Boundaries are essentially “need negotiation” between humans. - MeganWant your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call

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26:58

Tricky Boundaries & Skillful Negotiation with Dr....

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/03/07

What do you do when someone cuts you out of their life? How do you back away slowly from someone you really don’t want to be around? Boundaries are part of all human relationships, but they are TRICKY. This week, part one of our show about boundaries - how to make them, how to keep them, and sometimes, how to breach them - with special guest Dr. Alexandra Solomon, host of Reimagining Love.Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or

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26:40

Keeping Secrets

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/02/28

Your typical small talk is LOADED with inappropriate questions. Think about it: you ask a person you just met whether they’re married or if they have kids. If they’re new in town, you ask them why they moved here. The answers to those questions are rarely simple, and they sometimes lead to awkward, intimate conversations - right there, next to the bean dip. This week, we explore keeping secrets - in small talk, in the workplace, in families, and out in the wider world with listener questions about

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30:25

Grief Has Entered the Chat: Addiction, Body Image,...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/02/21

You know what makes the scary stuff easier to talk about? Making it fun. This week, my fellow “fun and scary” psychotherapist, Kat DeFatta, joins us to talk about body image, disordered eating, and how to help a friend facing a tough diagnosis. Sounds scary, but we had a lot of fun making this show. Come listen. Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.coIn this episode we cover: Why brand new psychotherapist Kat

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25:12

The Love-Filled World: Valentine’s Edition

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/02/14

Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.coSince we’ve already got February 14th assigned as a holiday, I’d like to claim Valentine’s Day not for romance, but for all love. Let’s make it a real sacred occasion - one that helps create a world where there’s more than enough love and support to go around. This episode is basically what I’d give for my TED talk, if I had one. Don’t miss it. Grief is part of love, so

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8:47

BONUS: The Half Life of Love

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/02/11

Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.coEpisode Description:A bonus episode for Valentine’s week - the love story at the core of Here After and all of Megan’s work. This episode is unlike our normal weekly show. Tune in, and let us know if you’d like more occasional bonus episodes.Resources: This essay first appeared in very slightly different form on Modern LossGet in touch: Thanks for listening to this week’s

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36:54

Do I Stay or Do I Go? Caregivers Under Stress; with...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/02/07

It’s no secret that healthcare professionals and caregivers of all kinds are stretched beyond their limits. We can’t look to healthcare systems themselves to give us the care and attention we need, so where CAN we go for support (and answers)? Don’t miss this week’s episode with guests Koshin Paley Ellison and Chodo Robert Campbell of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care. To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.coIn this episode we cover: why

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41:18

Being an Advocate For the Thing That Broke Your...

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine ·

2022/01/31

How do you go on after your most transformational experience - motherhood - turns into your worst nightmare? Emmy nominated journalist René Marsh discusses storytelling, pediatric cancer, and becoming an advocate for the cause that broke her heart. “I wrote this in my journal: if I survive this, it's not because I found some great tool to survive it. It’s that I figured out how to position my stance to carry this load forever.” - René MarshIn this episode we cover: how the experience of deep loss

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