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Hard Time: A Look At The Law Inside The Walls

Jake Welder and Jonathan Bates

To get ALL the NEW episodes, become a paid subscriber with this link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/hardtime/subscribe Thinking about a career in corrections? Thinking about committing a crime? Correctional Sergeants Jake Welder and Jonathan Bates talk about life and the law behind bars, the challenges facing America"s Forgotten Cop-- the correctional officer. The first responders on beats made up exclusively of our communities" most dangerous people. MERCH

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01:10:50

35. The Habitual Fugitive Alex Rabold

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2024/01/07

Due to listener demand, Jon has been removed from this show.Jake and Abby are the dynamic duo this time.Eerie, Pennsylvania: A Mercer County inmate escapes from two hospitals in consecutive days. Is he going for the record? (8 hospitals and a veterinary clinic in 5 days, Inmate Moritmer Shelton, 1988) Alex Rabold surrendered at the Mercer County Jail last Monday after spending the previous three days as a fugitive. "Fugitive life ain't fer me," he said, redonning the irons. He

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01:24:30

34. Falling Down: How Do You Confront Decline

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2024/01/06

ELVN. What does it stand for? The cryptic letters drawn in the blood of an unknown man shot dead in an apartment complex hallway in Alexandria Virginia on October 4th, 1996. That would be a hell of a thing if it had basis in anything other than a misremembered fourth season episode of The X-Files. In reality, it stands for "Exit, Loyalty, Voice and Neglect" and each is a way that a person responds to declining quality in a relationship or institution they are a part of. You've done

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00:42:45

33. Back To Bibb County

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2024/01/05

The Bibb Boys are Back in Town.Jonifer and those other three no good scofflaws that run off from Bibb County jail in October are all back in custody.It was a daring escape we first covered with Abby about a month ago but now the long saga of the four men that escaped from a jail in Georgia is over and done with. The sheriff, David Davis, had speculated the reason for the escape had been about the food; Jon and Jake thought that cell phones played a particular role in the runoff. Irony is complete

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01:10:05

32. Young Gun: Interview with a Rookie

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2024/01/04

Remember when you were young?We don't. In this episode Jake and Jon talk to a correctional officer who is just starting out. Reagan came from the corporate world, working with clients personably in warm and comfortable corporate environments. Now she is doing Hard Time in the booking office in a jail in California. She's here because we can already tell she is going to be a good officer, so we wanted to pick her brain about what it's like to begin the career. Jake and Jon talk about

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01:03:21

31. The High Costs of Being A CO (Part 2)

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2024/01/03

This episode Jake and Jon break down the cases of Jake and Jon, and the hardships with mental health they've both had being in corrections. Some frank conversations about what the job can do to you, what it takes out of you, and the damage it can leave behind. If you are struggling in corrections or wherever you are find help however you can get it, because you are worth it.Poop references: 1?Jake Joke: E for effort --- Send in a voice message:

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01:11:17

30. The Villalobos Incident

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2024/01/02

Washington County, Oregon: Edi Villalobos, accused as a murderer, was on the loose for several hours after eluding his guards at a court hearing and sprinting out of the building. While going through jury selection for his trial over the stabbing death of a man in 2021, Villalobos decided things weren't going too well and made a break for it. He went full FUGITIVE. He got past the officers transporting him, through the courthouse and its security, and made his way to a nearby apartment

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01:09:39

29. Public Menace: How Cell Phones Inside Get People...

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2023/12/31

Jon is dying. Upper respiratory infection and a day burning refuse in the cold has taken its toll. Jake is sick of the shit as well, and is not "doing well sir." The result is too unhappy middle aged white men (Jake may be a black silhouette with a question mark on it) giving their conservative takes on things. So they are bringing a lot of innovation to the talk/podcast field. They discuss the conflict, and how prisons are using technology to clamp down on smuggled cell phone useage

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01:22:11

28. Breaking Out of Bibb County

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2023/12/31

Abby's back. And sheeeee's pissed. After months of trying to break the case of that Philadelphia Eagles guy that escaped and wreaked havoc all over Pennsylvania, and her requests to return being denied by Jake (Jon claims ignorance), she has come for her 𝘧𝘪𝘭𝘵𝘩𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘦.Withstanding the 𝘧𝘪𝘭𝘵𝘩𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘦 as always is Jake "MF" Welder, whose last name at this point just adds to his pointless mystery. Jon is also in this episode. The three break down the

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01:31:29

26. On Fire: The Burning of Huntsville State

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2023/12/28

Correctional Officers are the ultimate first responders: policing the population, enforcing the laws, dealing with both perpetrators and victims. They also have to respond to emergency medical situations-- controlling bleeding, performing CPR. And yes, they have the be the first to respond to fires inside the facilities. Fire can and do occur inside prisons, especially in older facilities, or in any prison that contains an arsonist and an opportunity.In this episode we examine a fire which

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01:24:50

25. No One Is Safe: Georgia Down

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2023/12/28

Bobby Kicklighter, an 88-year-old Korean War veteran and town historian is murdered in his house. The investigation uncovers a massive a conspiracy of racketeering, felony murder and other egregious crimes. The Ring Leader? Nathan Weekes-- already incarcerated at a Georgia Department of Corrections facility. The murder was a hit-gone-wrong: Weekes had ordered an assassination on a correctional officer for being incorruptible and cracking down on his highly lucrative behind-bars contraband ring.

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00:41:34

24. Eaten Alive in Fulton County

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2023/12/28

The failed Rumble pilot. Jake is in jail this weekend paying his debt to society (He racks up debts at local libraries, printing off memes and dad jokes and never pays the front desk), so this week we're playing an episode that almost got off the ground.Drew Breasy came to me with a proposal: bring Hard Time to Rumble. "They're desperate for content on that platform. That kind of desperation makes your content look acceptable," he said. "You don't have to tell me five

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00:55:30

23. Stillwater Prison Blues

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2023/12/28

In this episode Jake and Jon break down the ABC Kiefer Sutherland drama "Designated Survivor," and they do a deep dive on this past weekend's riot with a lowercase R at Stillwater Prison, a state facility in eastern Minnesota. The media can't get to the truth and wouldn't tell it anywway, so they dig up crybaby hugathugs and disgraced former employees to sell the next best thing to the soon-to-forget masses. Deleted in the middle is a 45 minute episode about football, which

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00:54:03

22. Juarez: The Lost Episode

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2023/12/28

Somehow evading release in the original Patreon run, this OG episode talks about an attack on the Prison in Juarez, Mexico that left 14 people dead. In the United States, correctional officers usually look at prisons as the threat from within-- it's a whole other story when you're attacked from the outside. Also in this episode, the world's most dangerous prisons, and some fast facts about them that put perspective on the most lethal American lockups. --- Send in a voice message:

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01:11:17

21. The Devil Is A Sissy: An Awesome Name For An Episode

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2023/12/28

Last night Jake, Jon and Carli all sat down just to shoot the shit. No agenda. Yeah they talked about being correctional officers, but they also talked about Halloween, football, hockey, Beignet, plans for the future, their first jobs, the moment they "became" COs, and the 1995 Oscar Award Winning Sean Patrick Flanery film "Powder." Just something to have on while you do chores or fall asleep. --- Send in a voice message:

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01:32:49

20. No Control: Being Detained in the Borderland

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2023/12/28

In this episode, Jake and Jon discuss spontaneous emergencies, improvised weapons, and how some officers just make things worse; How sergeants undermining officers can cause problems with long lasting repercussions; how officers have to be in charge but also choose their battles; the big topic is allegations of sexual abuse at federal illegal immigrant detainment facilities, how the government cannot handle the surging problem, the ethics of private ownership of prisons-- prepare for a RANT on

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01:13:23

19. Dallas County Dilemma: Alias Valerie Jackson

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2023/12/28

This one is the tough one, the one Jon has been avoiding successfully for 18 episodes-- a listener request at that-- TRANS POLICY in jail and prison. Now, Jon left corrections in 2015, just slightly before the rational thought in the universe decayed, and so that he doesn't sound like an ignorant asshat, he brought along two friends still in the CORRECTIN' BIZ to tell him what it's like these days in facilities which force at the point of the gun the greatest societal controversy of the

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01:24:50

17. Fugitive Road: Michael Burham's Summer Vacation

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2023/12/28

In this stunning return to the second of the two kinds of episodes we do, JAKE ABBY and JON join up to chit chat about another daring escape-- this time, Michael Burham jumped the joint in Warren County. But how does this happen? Negligent officers? Deficient processes? Dilapidated facilities? A smuggled spoon and a Rita Hayworth poster? Burham disappeared like a fart in the wind and even though he's safely back, it'll be hell to pay for whoever can be made to take the blame. Politicians

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01:45:48

16. The Murder of Deputy John Durm

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2023/12/28

Jake and Jon talk about the line of duty murder of Marion County Deputy John Durm, who was strangled to death by an inmate inside a vehicle sallyport in June of 2023. Durm was a deputy for 38 years-- and his wife and son work in the same department. Emotions break a bit when discussing the tragic loss of life, and the potential failures of proper tactics and staffing. Durm was by himself when he returning an inmate to a facility with an inmate accused of shooting death of his ex-girlfriend. The

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01:30:39

15. Taming Savages: Tomorrow Treatments For...

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2023/12/27

Jake and Jon jaw-jack about working on vacation; culturally appropriate names for wanton acts of roguery; some random downbeat filthy implications; Jake reviews "Sound of Freedom," acudetox as a treatment for mental health problems for inmates; how to save face; what actual science is like; EMDR as a treatment for mental health problems for inmates; finally revealed-- why cats are always on HARD TIME; first responders and cannabis for stress relief beards; ignorance on current events, and

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01:05:17

13. The High Costs of Being A CO (Part I)

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2023/12/27

In this downbeat episode, Jake and Jon discuss some of the high personal costs that can come with being a CO. They also break down what is the realistic role of a correctional officer in rehabilitation compared to what the public expects. No discussion of corrections would be complete without mentioning how problems get paperwhipped and performance is punished. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/hardtime/message

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