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Museum Confidential

Philbrook Museum of Art

Museum Confidential is a behind-the-scenes look at museums hosted by Jeff Martin. The show is a co-production of Philbrook Museum of Art and Public Radio Tulsa. New episodes every two weeks.

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28:01

Edward Hopper Was Here

Museum Confidential ·

2019/11/22

The name "Edward Hopper" is synonymous with loneliness. Hotels and motels play a central role in Hopper’s art. "Edward Hopper and The American Hotel" recently opened at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts in Richmond. It is the first in-depth look at this side of Hopper’s work and features a recreated room based on Hopper’s “Western Motel.” The space serves as a fully functional hotel room. Every night sold out before opening day. On this episode we chat with the show’s curator, Dr. Leo Mazow.

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27:01

Building Stories

Museum Confidential ·

2019/11/01

Sometimes a place becomes a museum by accident. This takes the perfect mix of history, people, luck, notoriety, and course, art. One of the best examples of this rare occurrence is the legendary Chelsea Hotel in New York City. Acclaimed author Fiona Davis writes novels about famous New York buildings. She recently wrote about the Chelsea Hotel, so we checked in with her to talk all about it.

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26:46

Springsteen's Stuff

Museum Confidential ·

2019/10/18

Bruce Springsteen just turned 70. But The Boss shows no signs of slowing down. In his hometown of Freehold, New Jersey, there’s a new exhibition at the Monmouth County Historical Association. It’s called, quite simply, SPRINGSTEEN: HIS HOMETOWN. On this episode we talk all things Bruce with Eileen Chapman, Director of The Bruce Springsteen Archives and Center for American Music at Monmouth University.

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28:39

Dr. Seuss: Lost and Found

Museum Confidential ·

2019/10/04

In 2013, while looking through a forgotten box of archival materials, Dr. Seuss’s widow, Audrey Geisel, discovered a folder containing a collection of sketches for a project called “The Horse Museum.” It was only about 80% finished and contained no completed artwork. Editors at Random House set out to complete the book and hired Australian illustrator Andrew Joyner to provide the art. A true love letter to museums and a wonderful primer on art history, “Dr. Seuss’ Horse Museum” was released a

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31:00

Go Forward, Move Ahead

Museum Confidential ·

2019/09/19

Spoiler: Adam Lerner isn’t your average museum director. For the past 10 years, Adam ran the show at MCA Denver. His impact on the institution, the city, and in many ways, the industry, is undeniable. Adam recently stepped down to explore new adventures. We were asked to do an exit interview of sorts. Recorded live in Denver.

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31:36

Getting High with Killer Mike

Museum Confidential ·

2019/09/06

During our summer break, we headed down to Atlanta to interview hip-hop artist and activist, Killer Mike. He’s known widely for his work with Run The Jewels, but this trip was to talk about museums. Specifically, Atlanta’s High Museum of Art. A little over a year ago, Mike became a board member at The High. We wanted to check in and see how it’s going. What follows is a chat with Mike and High Museum Director Rand Suffolk. Recorded in the studios of public radio WABE in Atlanta.

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38:25

Jason Lee

Museum Confidential ·

2019/06/28

For our 2019 Summer Special we chat with photographer, actor, and legendary skateboarder, Jason Lee (Mallrats, Almost Famous). Lee spent a good portion of 2018 road-tripping through Oklahoma taking photos for his first solo museum show. On view at Philbrook Downtown until November 10.

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27:01

Live From New Orleans: Don Wildman

Museum Confidential ·

2019/05/31

For our Season 2 finale we headed down to the Big Easy for a live show to kick off the annual conference of the American Alliance of Museums (AAM). We set up shop inside the beautiful and mouthwatering Southern Food and Beverage Museum for a chat with Don Wildman, host of the long running Travel Channel show, “Mysteries at the Museum.”

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26:41

Every Picture Tells a Story

Museum Confidential ·

2019/05/10

There are many examples of writers using paintings and other visual art as inspiration to create an entirely new work. Think The Girl with a Pearl Earring or even The Da Vinci Code. That’s exactly what award-winning writer Donna Baier Stein did when she decided to write a new collection of short stories based on works by iconic American artist, Thomas Hart Benton. The issues Benton dealt with through the height of the Great Depression and on still resonate and echo today. We recently sat down with

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25:18

What Is A Curator?

Museum Confidential ·

2019/04/26

In our first show recorded in front of a live audience, we explore what it means to be a curator with Philbrook Museum of Art Chief Curator Catherine Whitney and Gilcrease Museum Senior Curator, Laura Fry. Your grandmother probably went her whole life without saying she “curated” something. And while so many people these days claim to curate this or that, the only ones that can truly own the title are actual curators. Featuring cameos by comedian Pete Holmes, exit signs, and the National Mustard

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27:25

Confronting An Ugly Past

Museum Confidential ·

2019/04/11

We recently stumbled upon a fascinating blog post written last year by Graham Boettcher, Director of the Birmingham Museum of Art in Birmingham, Alabama. The headline read, “DIRECTOR RECKONS WITH ART MUSEUM’S UGLY PAST” and looks at the museum’s troubling Jim Crow-era policies in the first dozen years of its existence. We sat down with Graham to discuss this and much more.

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28:22

Museum Storage Wars

Museum Confidential ·

2019/03/29

Museums have a problem. Too much stuff. But whereas you can take a few carloads to Goodwill or set up a yard sale, museums don’t have that luxury. Sometimes they end up building costly expansions just to contain the overflow. New York Times reporter Robin Pogrebin visited museums of various budgets and sizes to see just how big a problem museum storage has become.

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32:01

Ask The Experts 2.0

Museum Confidential ·

2019/03/01

Time for our annual round table chat with three experts from different parts of the art world. The roster includes Hrag Vartanian, editor of the popular arts and culture website Hyperallergic, Philbrook Director Scott Stulen, and artist Sharon Louden who is currently putting the finishing touches on a brand new installation in the Philbrook Rotunda. The installation will be on view through the rest of 2019.

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31:52

Glenstone, A Labor of Love

Museum Confidential ·

2019/02/15

Less than 20 miles from Washington D.C., there’s a place called Glenstone. It was founded by Mitch and Emily Rales and opened in 2006. Last fall Glenstone took a big leap into the next chapter. But what is Glenstone? It’s an art museum. It boasts over 200 acres of grounds. It’s private. It’s free. Kids and chewing gum aren’t allowed (that’s a little controversial). They only allow a few hundred folks at a time. No pictures. No phones. But don’t be easily distracted by those shiny objects. Mitch and

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29:45

Paintings for the Future

Museum Confidential ·

2019/02/01

For the #1 slot on his Top 10 Best Art Shows of 2018, New York magazine art critic Jerry Saltz selected an exhibition at the Guggenheim by Swedish artist Hilma af Klint titled “Paintings for the Future.” “The most magnificent sight in New York this year was the drop-dead first gallery showing of kaleidoscopically colored, structurally complex, completely abstract paintings made in the first two decades of the 20th century by unacknowledged Swedish visionary Hilma af Klint.” Since opening last

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27:59

The Savior

Museum Confidential ·

2019/01/18

Art conservation: It’s sort of a magic trick. But there are immensely talented people using skills and techniques passed down over generations alongside the latest technology. On this episode we chat with Julian Baumgartner of Chicago-based Baumgartner Fine Art Restoration. Julian has taken his family business into the 21st century by embracing new media, becoming a bit of a social media star in the process.

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26:11

The Underground Museum

Museum Confidential ·

2019/01/04

Close your eyes. Imagine a museum. Chances are we’re all seeing a variation on a theme. Open galleries, high ceilings, there’s a guard in the corner wearing a navy or perhaps maroon blazer. It’s quiet, it’s cold, it’s a museum. Those are the stereotypes of course, but you see where we’re going. Museums are, or at least, can be, much different. One of the places trying to change the way we interact with these spaces is The Underground Museum in Los Angeles. We recently sat down with the museum’s

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31:56

The Grand Vienna Museum: On Wes Anderson and Juman...

Museum Confidential ·

2018/12/21

Several years ago, the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna, Austria began inviting artists to sift through the museum’s more than 4 million objects and create exhibitions filtered through the artist’s own unique point of view. Recently, the museum asked Wes Anderson, the Oscar-nominated director of “The Grand Budapest Hotel” and “The Royal Tenenbaums”, and his partner, acclaimed designer, writer, and illustrator, Juman Malouf, to take on the same gargantuan task. They ended up choosing 423 objects

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27:39

Ninth Street Women

Museum Confidential ·

2018/12/07

Pulitzer Prize Finalist Mary Gabriel joins us to talk about her acclaimed new book, Ninth Street Women. After WWII, when names like Pollock and Rothko were entering the American mainstream, five women dared to enter this male-dominated space–not as muses but as artists. From their New York studios, where they worked, drank, fought, and loved, they kicked open doors for themselves and everyone that came after. On this episode we get to know Lee, Grace, Helen, Joan, and Elaine.

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25:46

The World Famous Crochet Museum

Museum Confidential ·

2018/11/21

On this episode we head to California’s High Desert with our roving correspondent, Preston Poe (of “The Preston Poe Show” podcast). As we often say, there are many kinds of museums. One of them is a tiny spot in a repurposed photo processing booth now dedicated entirely to crochet. The museum’s founder, as you’ll hear, knows how to spin a yarn or two. And rightly so.

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