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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong

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41:52

2024 Naughty and Nice Special

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2024/12/20

Welcome to the Chat and Cheese Podcast's holiday extravaganza, where HR gossip meets holiday cheer — and no one is safe. It’s like your company holiday party, but with more alcohol and fewer awkward dance moves (maybe). Holiday Coal Recipients: The Master of Deception The Corporate Grinch The Kings of "Almost There" Holiday Heroes: The Billion-Dollar Badass The Pop Powerhouse The Viral Appetizer Wizard Final Thought: Whether you’re running from accountability or running the world, Chad &

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Using Internal Comms to Shape Employer Brands

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2024/12/18

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese corner Audra Knight, the employer branding wizard at Foundation Medicine, to spill the tea on how companies can stop being boring and actually build a brand people care about. Audra preaches the gospel of internal communications, because apparently, it’s not enough to just have a logo and a “We’re Hiring!” post on LinkedIn.She dishes on the art of getting your employees to share their stories without bribing them (much), making your

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34:49

Firing Squad Illoominus' Noelle London

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/12/16

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Noelle London, founder and CEO of Illoominus, discusses her AI-powered people intelligence platform designed to integrate and analyze HR data. She shares insights on the challenges of dirty data, the importance of strategic partnerships, and the competitive landscape in HR technology. The conversation also covers funding strategies, the role of Techstars, and how Illoominus aims to provide actionable insights for HR leaders to make informed

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45:08

Meta, Microsoft, and Google Go Nuclear

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2024/12/13

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics ranging from personal anecdotes about pets and sleep deprivation to the unsettling news about drones in New Jersey. They delve into the implications of workplace stress and corporate responses, highlighting a controversial case of a company firing employees due to stress. The conversation shifts to the role of AI in recruitment and marketing, followed by a light-hearted update on their fantasy football

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6:00

Shredded: Paradox, iCIMS, Korn Ferry, HiringBranch,...

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2024/12/12

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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50:42

Chris Forman

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2024/12/11

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, hosts Joel Cheeseman and Chad Soash welcome Chris Foreman, founder and outgoing CEO of AppCast. The conversation covers Chris's background, the evolution of AppCast, its market position, and the state of the job board industry. Chris shares insights on the importance of performance advertising, the challenges faced by job boards, and the dynamics of partnerships with major players like Indeed and StepStone. The discussion highlights the need for

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13:58

Navigating DEI's Shifting Landscape in Recruitment

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/12/11

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Julie Sowash, executive director of Disability Solutions, survived Chad & Cheese’s snarkapalooza to talk AI ethics, data transparency, and why hiring underrepresented talent is more than a checkbox exercise. She preached the gospel of blending tech with human connection (shocking, we know) and reminded companies that “diversity commitment” isn’t code for “nice press release.”Julie also spilled on how 2024’s economic rollercoaster crushed some dreams but

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11:04

Targeting Candidates with AI and LLMs

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/12/09

Welcome back to HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, where Chad and Joel serve up spicy takes and recruiting truths hotter than a Nashville summer. This week, they wrangle Courtney Dempsey, the tech-savvy maestro behind Southern Rock Restaurants’ hiring empire. With 160 restaurants and a hiring strategy sharper than a deli slicer, Courtney spills the secret sauce: targeting job seekers while the rest of us are dreaming about tacos at 3 AM. Hear how she uses LLMs like they’re her personal AI attack dogs,

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48:08

Rippling Snakes Deel

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2024/12/06

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Joel and Chad discuss various topics including their experiences with Chipotle and the implementation of Paradox, the impressive growth of their podcast as highlighted by Spotify's year-end wrap-up, the rise of social commerce particularly through TikTok, and the potential for LinkedIn to enhance job applications through video content.They also touch on LinkedIn's recent layoffs and speculate on the future of ERE and its SourceCon conference. In this

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6:47

Shredded: Beamery, Uber, LinkedIn, Vinter, Popp AI,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/12/05

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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26:16

If It Ain't Broke, Break It with General Honoré

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/12/04

Brace yourselves: The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back, this time with retired Lieutenant General Russell L. Honoré—who proves you can train and lead half a million troops and drop some epic truth bombs on HR, AI, and America’s obsession with cheap stuff.In this spicy episode, we cover: HR Meets Boot Camp: General Honoré schools us on why leading people isn’t about asking, “You’re good, right?” and walking off like a clueless middle manager. Robots Can’t Cook Gumbo: Automation might make life

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9:56

The Evolving World of Recruitment Marketing and...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/12/02

John Graham, Shaker’s VP of Employer Brand Strategy, hit RecFest USA with a mic drop on recruitment marketing and employer branding as we careen into 2025. His talk? A mix of AI hype, DEI drama, and a reality check for those clinging to the idea of "jobs for life" like it's still 1985.Graham’s big reveal: employer branding is less about forever and more about for now, pivoting to a launchpad for career development instead of a golden handshake into retirement. He also dove into AI, calling it both

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38:01

JIVE TURKEYS 2024 Edition

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2024/11/29

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, hosts Joel and Chad celebrate Thanksgiving with humor and insights, introducing the concept of 'jive turkeys' in the recruiting world. Discussions around their personal Thanksgiving experiences, define what a jive turkey is, and highlight notable HR Jive Turkeys of 2024.The episode also features guest insights from Emi Beredugo, Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze, and Maureen Clough aka Mo. So, grab a turkey leg, some stuffing, a beer, and get ready for fun,

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13:20

Embrace the Learning Curve with Chloé Rada

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/11/27

The boys sit down with Chloé Rada, Senior Director of Talent Attraction at ZoomInfo, a title so fancy it barely fits on a business card. With over two decades of experience (read: she’s seen it all), Chloé’s here to school us on how to build an employer brand that doesn’t scream “we’re trying too hard.”Chloé talks about her mission to snag top-tier engineering talent while rolling out international internship programs—because apparently ZoomInfo doesn’t have enough geniuses yet. She champions

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20:57

Revolutionizing HR with Stefan Premdas

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/11/25

From the SmartRecruiters booth at the HR Tech conference, the guys interviewed Stefan Premdas, who transitioned from a background in biomedical engineering to HR, focusing on talent operations and recruitment at various firms before joining sweetgreen. Stefan discussed the evolving HR landscape, introducing the concept of "people experience" and how his team at sweetgreen manages the entire employee lifecycle with an emphasis on integration. He highlighted sweetgreen's approach to employee

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57:42

Snagged and Bagged: JobGet's Big Move

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/11/22

This week on The Chad and Cheese Podcast: It's a world of layoffs, aliens, and bad burgers as Chad brags about sunny Portugal while Joel freezes in the Midwest. From AI pimps hustling Instagram to job board dinosaurs facing extinction, the duo dives into an Acquisition Palooza that proves even startups can have a midlife crisis. Plus, they tackle the age-old question: How much Shake Shack can you eat at 30,000 feet? Spoiler: Not enough. Strap in for hot takes, cool beers, and the slow but inevitable

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Shredded: JobGet, Adzuna, Recruiter.com, LinkUp,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/11/21

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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13:39

Why AI Can't Replace Recruiters (Yet)

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2024/11/20

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Dean Da Costa joins Chad & Cheese to share fresh recruitment advice. He urges recruiters to challenge norms, verify AI-generated data, and focus on the human touch. Da Costa emphasizes personal branding, as candidates often research recruiters, and suggests exploring platforms beyond LinkedIn to reach diverse talent. He highlights the irreplaceable value of genuine interactions over automation and advocates for a supportive, knowledge-sharing recruiter

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20:38

400,000 Referrals with Patti Tabris

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2024/11/18

Live from the SmartRecruiters booth at the HR Tech conference in Las Vegas, the boys hosted a session with Patti Tabris, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at ResultsCX, who shared insights into leveraging employee referrals for recruitment. With 20,000 employees, ResultsCX has seen tremendous success by generating over 400,000 referrals in two years, highlighting referrals as a potent yet often underutilized recruitment strategy. Patti emphasized that continuous improvement and innovation in

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58:00

ZipRecruiter's Pathetic Performance

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2024/11/15

This week, the boys are joined by Lieven from House of HR to discuss various topics including layoffs in the industry, the impact of AI on startups, social media regulations for youth, and recent innovations in recruitment. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by companies in the current economic climate, as well as insights into quarterly earnings reports from major players in the recruitment space. The conversation delves into the dynamics of job platforms, particularly focusing on the

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