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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up

There’s No Business Like... ·

2023/05/17

Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up Katie sits down with Meena Malik to discuss genuine relationship building outside of programming, focusing on the importance of the relationship between arts funders and those they fund or want to fund, the importance of building a relationship when inviting someone to have meaningful and potentially traumatic conversations, and more. Our hosts talk about impactful moments in arts education, and some resources for tough conversations in the EDI

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Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do

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2023/05/10

Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do Bryan chats with Anthony Wilkinson about his many paths into and around the performing arts. They talk about his hit show My Big Gay Italian Wedding, his start as a writer in soap operas, his public speaking, and his eventual journey to leading the Avenel Performing Arts Center. Our hosts discuss surprising audience successes, soap operas, and the need for open conversations around burnout and getting to proper staffing levels. Anthony Wilkinson

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Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment

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2023/05/03

Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment Today we hear about our "Quadproducers" first Broadway experiences. Then, Josh talks with Tracey Lawie about Booking Broadway, and the importance of representation in the arts. She discusses the rewarding parts of an art admin position, and how they are based in transformations. Tracey Lawie is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/). Americans for the Arts- Arts and Economic Prosperity - Americans For The Arts

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Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous

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2023/04/26

Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous Episode 28 starts with our Quadhosts chatting about the weather and then into talking about the presence of our families in our spaces. Then Bryan sits down with comedic magician Jonathan Burns as they chat about how he got into magic, how some of his funniest bits came about, and his post pandemic view on family and work-life balance. Information about Jonathan Burns, as well as his tour schedule can be found at www.iheartburns.com Follow us on

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Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident

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2023/04/19

Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident In this episode, the pod squad debates their preferred handheld chicken preferences and Josh has an engaging interview with Dan Mann! Dan shares his journey to becoming an agent, starting a label and publishing company, and now producing a TV Show. Dan Mann is the Owner/Agent at Agency Etc (www.agency-etc.com) in Nashville. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

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Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those Risks

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2023/04/12

Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those Risks This week, our hosts take a moment to reflect on teachers who had an impact on their lives. Brian sits down with the energetic, fountain of knowledge, Mark Wilson. They touch on a number of topics, including a masterclass on connecting with your entire community. Mark Wilson is the Executive Director of the Zoellner Arts Center at Lehigh University (https://zoellner.cas.lehigh.edu/home). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions -

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Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys

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2023/04/05

Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys On this week's episode, our hosts talk about the impact and their love of people who are passionate about what they do. Josh and Danielle sit down with one of these individuals, Natalie Marerro. Natalie talks about becoming an Executive Director at 23, the impact of Viver Brasil, and the importance of “Ancestral Keys.“ Natalie Marrero is the Executive Director of Viver Brasil (https://www.viverbrasil.com/). She is passionate about place-making for communities

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Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know...

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2023/03/29

Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know Your Marketplace In episode 24, our hosts recall adjacent experience that loosely correlated to their current careers, and Josh and Kevin sit down to talk business with Jerry Ross and Adrienne Crane-Ross. Jerry discusses his path to the industry through being in a band and managing a rehearsal studio while Adrienne recalls her path into the industry through being a sound engineer and then a multiple Emmy Award winning PBS Children’s producer. Both

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Ep. 23 Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium: The Future is...

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2023/03/22

Ep. 23 EALS: The Future is Bright! We are joined by the student leaders of the Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium (EALS), Morgan Fuller, Faith Smith, and Lisette DuFore. Katie jumped at the opportunity to chat with the future leaders in our industry to hear what is important to them as they enter the field. Our hosts share what they thought they would be doing when they were still in college, and share stories of the big actions they are taking in their organizations. American University

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Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success

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2023/03/15

Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a story

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Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship

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2023/03/08

Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship On this episode, our hosts recall thing that drew them into booths at conferences, and Bryan sits down to talk business with Stephen Sunderlin. Stephen shares his story of moving to NYC and eventually becoming the Artistic Director at Vital Theatre Company. Stephen shares the benefits of connections, the details of producing new works, the importance of good marketing materials, and the value of being open to working every experience in

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Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.

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2023/03/01

Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next. Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together. Follow us on social

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Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big

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2023/02/22

Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big This week's episode is a special one! It is the first of two that highlights the individuals that introduced our hosts. Our hosts talk about getting that phone call, and then Bryan, Danielle, and Kevin share their conversation with Christine Cox. Christine shares her journey from playing a Princess to owning her own agency and gives incredible insight on the risk vs. Reward of artist acquisitions and contract types. Christine Cox is the Owner and Founder of

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Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building

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2023/02/15

Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building Our hosts talk about their favorite experience on stage. Katie chats with Christi Dortch about her career journey, when to listen to what your community is ready for and when to push them. Katie and Christi also discuss the relearning of in person communication coming out of the pandemic zoom meeting norm. The interview covers 3 things that you can use to shape your strategic plan and Christi discusses the function of state consortiums. Christi

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Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly?

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2023/02/08

Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly? Our hosts talk about the instruments they played when they were younger, and the importance of arts education. Bryan takes an opportunity to chat with Marian Liebowitz about her teaching background and the importance of the business side of our industry, as well as her unique approach to curating artists. Marian Liebowitz is the owner of Marian Liebowitz Artist Management (https://www.marianliebowitz.com/) as well as a former performer and

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Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts...

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2023/02/01

Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing Josh Holliday joins our host, Katie, to demystify Arts Marketing by giving real examples of how to create a marketing plan, how PR differs from marketing, and more. Our hosts talk about their favorite marketing campaigns, and revel in the masterclass that Josh Holliday presented in this short interview. Josh Holliday has a career in Arts Marketing, founded Fresh Coast Perspective (https://www.freshcoastperspective.com/), and is currently

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Ep. 15 Ken Waldman: Alaska’s Fiddling Poet

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2023/01/25

On this episode, Bryan sits down with Alaska’s Fiddling Poet, Ken Waldman. Bryan and Ken talk about Ken’s life on the road, his time as an educator, how he approaches his work including conferences, and even gives us a snippet of his work. Our hosts talk about trying to explain what it is they actually do, and explore the genuine approach that Ken takes to relationship building in the indusrty. Ken Waldman is a musician, author, poet, and founder of Nomadic Productions

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Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time

There’s No Business Like... ·

2023/01/18

Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time Our hosts reflect on their first mentors and the impact they had. Josh found some time at International Entertainment Buyers Association (IEBA -https://www.ieba.org/) Conference to sit down with Larry Kosson. Larry shares his origin story, and talks about his true passion, mentorship. Larry was awarded the 2019 Mentorship Award from the Western Arts Alliance (WAA - https://www.westarts.org/) . Larry Kosson is the Founder and President of Kosson Talent

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Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds Growth

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2023/01/11

Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds Growth We kick off this week with stories from past APAP (Association of Performing Arts Professionals) Conference before Katie dives into a conversation with Krista Bradley. Krista shares the journey that landed her at APAP, why cultural humility is important, and why you should listen to your impulses. Krista Bradley is the Director, Programs and Resources at APAP (https://apap365.org/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions

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Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to...

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2023/01/04

Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to Wonder Bread Our hosts talk about tech riders, before an engaging conversation with this week's incredible guest, Pat Hazell. Pat shares his insights on storytelling, “renting seats,” contracts, and shares his journey and only begins touching on his career. Pat Hazell is a writer, producer, director, podcaster, comedian, and more. He is the founder and Chief Creative Officer of Sweetwood Creative (http://sweetwoodiscreative.com/) and the host

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