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That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they"re based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have

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12:11

BONUS: To Munch, Remembering Richard Belzer

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/02/24

On this special bonus episode, Kara and Liza take a few moments to remember the life and work of Richard Belzer and his portrayal of the legendary character John Munch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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113:16

The Undiscovered Country w/ Joe Tapper

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2023/02/21

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “The Undiscovered Country” (Season 19, Episode 13), discuss the devastating Charlie Gard case, and speak to the delightful Joe Tapper. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Charlie Gard case The New York Times The Independent People Reuters WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘When Doctors and Parents Don’t Agree: The story of Charlie Gard’ by Natasha Hammond-Browning https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5715039/ Next week’s episode will be “Chasing Theo” (Season 18, Episode 8).

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127:15

Turn Me on Take Me Private w/ Alex Brightman & Eva...

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/02/14

On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the creepy “Turn Me on Take Me Private” (Season 22, Episode 5) and discuss the frustrating story of former NYC paramedic Lauren Caitlyn Kwei. Plus, this episode has TWO incredible interviews - Broadway darlings Alex Brightman (Beetlejuice) and Eva Noblezada (Miss Saigon). SOURCES: New York Post Yahoo Rolling Stone WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG

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125:59

Contrapasso w/ Kathleen Munroe

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/02/07

Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Contrapasso” (Season 19, Episode 3), discuss the disturbing Sean Shaynak case, and speak to the amazingly talented actor Kathleen Munroe (FBI). SOURCES: New York Magazine 1 New York Magazine 2 The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 ABC7 New York Spectrum News The Daily Mail Jezebel New York Post Homefacts.com WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘Sexual Misconduct In The Classroom: Everything You Need to

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124:52

Shaken w/ Beverly D'Angelo

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2023/01/31

Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10), look into the history of “Shaken Baby Syndrome” and the Louise Woodward case, plus have a stirring conversation with the queen, the legend, Beverly D'Angelo. SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 The New York Times 6 The New York Times 7 Publications.aap.org The Washington Post 1 The Washington Post 2 The Washington Post 3 The Washington Post

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109:05

Real Fake News w/ Kevin Carolan

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2023/01/24

On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the all-too-real “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17), analyze the bizarre events around PizzaGate, and speak to the delightful Kevin Carolan (Can You Ever Forgive Me?). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 Time Wikipedia - Pizzagate conspiracy theory Wikipedia - Jack Posobiec Southern Poverty Law Center Esquire WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘How Americans can help stop fake news’ by Emily

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135:35

Abomination w/ Michael Boatman

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2023/01/17

This week Kara and Liza cover “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8), investigate the horrific practices of the Westboro Baptist Church, and have a fantastic convo with the wonderful Michael Boatman (Spin City, The Good Fight). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 MatthewShepard.com History.com NPR 1 NPR 2 NPR 3 Southern Poverty Law Center 1 Southern Poverty Law Center 2 The Press and Journal The Westboro Baptist Church Website CNN JohnAvlon.com Time Politico The

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111:02

Tangled Strands of Justice w/ Orfeh

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2023/01/10

This week Kara and Liza go over the episode “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19), untangle a Jane Doe case whose DNA was inappropriately utilized, and have a fantastic conversation with the fabulous Orfeh. SOURCES: NPR 1 NPR 2 NPR 3 Davis Vanguard San Francisco Chronicle 1 San Francisco Chronicle 2 San Francisco Chronicle 3 San Francisco Chronicle 4 California Legislative Information FastDemocracy New York Times 1 New York Times 2 New York Times 3 Electronic Frontier

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125:40

Home Invasions w/ Kelli Giddish

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2023/01/03

This is a historic episode. This week, Liza and Kara break down “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14) and discuss the disturbing case of Jennifer Pan. Plus, they speak to the legend, the one and only Kelli Giddish aka Detective Amanda Rollins. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Stacey Lannert Wikipedia - Jennifer Pan Toronto Life CBC 1 CBC 2 Northwest Asian Weekly Crime Traveller WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: A Daughter's Deadly Deception: The Jennifer Pan

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114:29

Persona w/ Clea DuVall

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2022/12/27

On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the haunting “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). They discuss the lives of three separate women who inspired this episode - Leslie Crocker Snyder, Marie Dean Arrington, and Kiranjit Ahluwalia. And they have a chat with the iconic Clea DuVall. SOURCES: The New Yorker Wikipedia - Leslie Crocker Snyder Wikipedia - Marie Dean Arrington Wikipedia - Kiranjit Ahluwalia We’re History Murderpedia CrimeReads The Guardian Southall Black Sisters WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG

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139:11

Intersecting Lives & Heartfelt Passages w/ Andy Karl

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/12/20

This week Kara and Liza do the unthinkable and recap two episodes - “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23), they dissect the horrific crimes of former police officer Daniel Holtzclaw, and they have a riveting chat with Andy Karl aka Sergeant Mike Dodds aka “Baby Dodds.” SOURCES: The Oklahoman Buzzfeed News The New York Times The Washington Post 1 The Washington Post 2 The Washington Post 3 Reuters The Daily Beast CNN WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Women’s Prison

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124:06

Zebras w/ Mike Doyle

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/12/13

This week Liza and Kara discuss the iconic episode “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22), examine the tragic murder of Kendra Webdale, and chat with the legendary Mike Doyle aka Forensics Tech Ryan O'Halloran. SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Daily News Wikipedia - Kendra's Law New York Magazine Gothamist WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Treatment Advocacy Center https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/ Next week’s episodes will be

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120:45

Perverted w/ Emma Myles

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/12/06

In this episode, Liza and Kara break down “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). Then they take on faking DNA, the scientific cons of Fred Zain, and the wild world of biker gangs. Plus, they have a great conversation with the wonderful Emma Myles (Orange Is the New Black). SOURCES: Grunge International Journal of Motorcycle Studies Hells-angels.com The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 Forensic Science International Wikipedia - Fred Zain The Herald-Dispatch WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: One Simple

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124:37

Dominance w/ Caren Browning

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/11/29

This week Kara and Liza recap “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20), analyze the horrific Wichita Massacre, and chop it up with the delightful Caren Browning aka CSU Captain Judith Siper. SOURCES: The New York Times Oxygen Wichita-massacre.com Newsweek US News The Topeka Capital-Journal Lawrence Journal-World 1 Lawrence Journal-World 2 Wichita State University Forgottenvictims.com CNN The Washington Times CBS News KAKE Kansas State University Foundation Jason Befort Memorial Tournament Mental

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109:42

Secrets Exhumed w/ Roscoe Orman

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/11/22

Today Liza and Kara break down the much-requested “Secrets Exhumed” (Season 14, Episode 14), recount the unbelievable story behind the murder of Sherri Rasmussen, and have a chat with the iconic Roscoe Orman (Sesame Street). SOURCES: Vanity Fair Wikipedia - Murder of Sherri Rasmussen The Huffington Post All That’s Interesting The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 JCS - Criminal Psychology - The Interrogation of Stephanie Lazarus The Daily News The Atlantic Deadline WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG

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129:20

Unorthodox w/ Zoe Lister-Jones

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/11/15

On today’s episode, Liza and Kara recap “Unorthodox” (Season 9, Episode 13), discuss the crimes of Yehuda Kolko and what happened at an Allentown, PA elementary school in 2007. Plus they have a fun chat with the multi-talented Zoe Lister-Jones (Life in Pieces, The Craft: Legacy). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Post Wikipedia - Yeshiva Torah Temimah Asbury Park Press New York Magazine NBC News The United States Department of Justice Pocono Record The Morning Call WHAT

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113:36

Harm w/ Steven Weber

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/11/08

Today Kara and Liza dive into the unsettling episode “Harm” (Season 9, Episode 5), dissect the horrors of Abu Ghraib, and speak to the wonderful Steven Weber (Wings, Chicago Med). SOURCES: The New Yorker 1 The New Yorker 2 NPR The New York Times The Washington Post CNN WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘The Ballad of Abu Ghraib’ by Philip Gourevitch and Errol Morris https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/301042/the-ballad-of-abu-ghraib-by-philip-gourevitch/ Next week’s episode will be “Unorthodox” (Season

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135:26

Bullseye w/ Stephen Tobolowsky

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/11/01

This week, Liza and Kara follow the wild twists of “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2), discuss the heartbreaking case of Kim Sa-rang, and have an inspiring chat with the legend, Stephen Tobolowsky (Groundhog Day, Silicon Valley). SOURCES: CNN 1 CNN 2 Kotaku 1 Kotaku 2 The Daily Beast Thought Maybe NBC News Psychiatric News American Psychiatric Association WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘What are the Signs of Video Game

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127:34

Paternity w/ Isabel Gillies

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/10/25

Episode 100! This week Kara and Liza recap “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9), discuss the tragic case of Christina Long, and speak to the one and only Isabel Gillies AKA Kathy Stabler! SOURCES: CBS News LA Times FindLaw The News-Times NY Times 1 NY Times 2 Westchester Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘Online Dating and Dating App Safety Tips’ https://www.rainn.org/articles/online-dating-and-dating-app-safety-tips Next week’s episode will be “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2). Learn more

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103:25

Alta Kockers w/ Michael Kostroff

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/10/18

Liza and Kara break down the seminal episode “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10), unearth the story of the fabled Collyer brothers, and talk to the gregarious thespian and teacher Michael Kostroff (The Wire, Billions). SOURCES: Wikipedia - Murder of Angie Zapata Glaad.org The Denver Post Wikipedia - JT LeRoy Vanity Fair Wikipedia - Collyer brothers New York Daily News Amusing Planet All That's Interesting NY Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Angie Zapata Murder: Violence Against Transgender

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