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Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast

Hosted by Karen Hawkins and Katie Morell, writers & longtime friends, this podcast explores mental health, creativity, & coping with quarantine. The goal: to help people feel less alone, share stores, & create connection.

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00:54:28

90. Abortion: A Conversation with Dr. Tania Israel

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/06/13

Welcome, listeners to a very SPECIAL EPISODE. On today's show, Karen and Katie welcome back the magnificent Dr. Tania Israel, renowned author of 'Beyond Your Bubble: How to Connect Across the Political Divide, Skills and Strategies for Conversations That Work.' Whereas in past episodes with Dr. Israel, the trio has talked about her work and how she does it, in this show, the group actually DOES the work. What ensues is our most vulnerable show yet. All three were surprised at what they said and

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00:45:34

89. Check Yo' Self

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/06/06

Get ready for a fun episode, Listeners! On today's show, Karen and Katie go on a series of wild tangents that result in stories about everything from Katie being on a leash as a kid to Karen's love for rollerskating to the pair's bewilderment about all things NOUGAT. They also talk about how how it can be a good/healthy idea to 'check ourselves before we wreck ourselves' on a regular basis. For all of you interested in WTF IS NOUGAT?! - check out this video:

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00:29:52

88. When The News Is Too Much To Bear

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/05/30

Good Monday Morning Listeners, and thanks for tuning in. Today's show is a bit more somber because of last week's news events. Karen and Katie discuss the horrors of the Texas shooting, and also go into detail on the coping mechanisms they employ when the news is especially awful. Thanks for listening and being on this ride with us - we appreciate every single one of you! Resources from today's episode: - Check out this Vagus Nerve Massage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnV3Q2xIb1U - Read this

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01:10:56

87. Summer Bucket Lists

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/05/23

Hellllooooo, Listeners, and welcome to another thrilling installment of the pod! On this week's show, Karen and Katie catch up after being away from each other for 4 weeks (the longest time since the pod started). Katie talks about her time in Portugal, Karen discusses how tried and true coping mechanisms for being human sometimes need a refresh (darn you, coping mechanisms!) and the pair go deep into a convo about their spring bucket lists. Thanks for listening, enjoy!

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00:21:11

86. Beauty As Therapy

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/05/16

Happy Monday, Listeners! On today's mini pod (#5 in our 5-part series - YOU MADE IT!), Karen and Katie discuss how having beautiful surroundings can serve as a form of therapy. Enjoy!

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00:16:43

85. Good Surprises

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/05/09

Hello, Listeners, and thanks for tuning in! On this week's mini-pod (series #4 of 5), Karen and Katie discuss good surprises - you know, the ones that give you faith in humanity. Karen discusses a garden surprise and Katie talks about a few birthday surprises. We hope this episode brings a smile to your face. Enjoy!

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00:16:57

84. "Be Yourself No Matter What They Say"

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/05/02

Happy Monday, Listeners! On today's mini-pod, Karen and Katie are taking a page from the great work of Sting (swoon) and discussing a lyric from his song "Englishman in New York," where he sings, "Be yourself, no matter what they say." The pair discuss embracing uniqueness and the beauty that comes along with that mentality. Enjoy!

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00:14:15

83. Knowing When To Tap Out

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/04/25

Happy Monday, Listeners, and welcome to installment #2 of our five-part mini-pod series while Katie is out of town! In this week's episode, Karen and Katie discuss the concept of knowing when to walk away from something (or "tap out"). We hope you enjoy - thanks for listening!

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00:16:42

82. Spring Fever

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/04/18

Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week's pod, Karen and Katie chat about a few of the hormonal changes that happen to us when the weather gets nice again. The pair also discuss how this is their first mini pod in a series of five mini pods while Katie is out of town. They recorded them ALL IN A SINGLE SITTING! Thanks for listening - we hope you enjoy! - Want to read what happens to us in the spring? Check out this WebMD article: https://www.webmd.com/women/features/you-give-me-spring-fever

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00:58:52

81. Religion

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/04/11

Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week's show, Karen and Katie chat all about religion. They discuss finding out about their friends' religions long after they've been close to them, about how religion showed up in their lives growing up and much more. Karen takes us on a journey that involves prayer and spontaneous baptisms while Katie explains her Mom's "musical chairs" approach to religion. The pair also discusses the connections between religion and spirituality. **Exciting announcement:

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00:43:55

80. Practicing Empathy & Grace

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/04/04

Welcome back, Listeners! In today's episode, Karen and Katie discuss the importance of empathy when approaching/talking to other people, and the fact that you never know what others are going through. As Neil deGrasse Tyson says, "We are, each of us, a little universe." Karen discusses what her life has been like lately, Katie gets into how empathy has presented itself in her marriage and the pair also talks in depth about the concept of giving ourselves grace when things don’t go to plan. This is

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00:31:40

79. (MINI POD) Teen Vogue Q&A

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/03/14

Happy Mid-March, Listeners! In today's episode, Karen and Katie ask each other impromptu questions from a Teen Vogue article. We learn about their most embarrassing moments (let's just say sex and sweating are involved in very a few unfortunate scenarios!) and other fabulous facts like their favorite podcasts and more. We hope you enjoy - thanks for listening! Resources from this week's episode: - Check out the 5 Love Languages: https://www.5lovelanguages.com/learn - Looking for a dance song? Listen

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00:52:31

78. Living Life On Your Schedule

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/03/07

Happy Almost-International Women's Day, Listeners! In this week's show, Karen and Katie give a much-deserved shout-out to the 10th anniversary of Karen's creation, Rebellious Magazine For Women! They talk about how amazing Rebellious is, Katie explains that she's had a horrible mental health day and how talking to Karen helped fish her out of the gutter, and one of Karen's cats tries to climb the walls. The duo then gets into a conversation about giving ourselves permission to live life on our own

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00:53:42

77. Reasons To Smile

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/02/28

Happy Monday, Listeners, and welcome to an episode all about positivity! On today's show, Karen and Katie chat about the importance of focusing on the things that are bringing lightness into our lives. Even when things around us may not be going to plan (and the news is rough), the pair discuss how noticing the things that bring joy can really lighten the load. Thanks for listening - we hope you enjoy! Resources from today's episode: - Check out the GoFundMe page for Twisted Hippo Brewery, a beloved

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00:23:24

76. (MINI POD) "Life Is Not A Race"

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/02/21

Happy Monday, Listeners, and thanks for tuning in! In this week's mini pod, Karen and Katie chat about how problematic a sense of urgency is in our work and personal lives. They also talk about how "life is not a race" and how taking things a bit slower can be better for ourselves and others. We hope you enjoy this episode - thanks for listening!

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01:10:28

75. Galentines Day & Heart-Shaped Salami with Ginger...

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/02/14

OhMyGooooddddnnneeeesss, FOLKS! (insert excited screaming here) Today's show is one of our best ever because we have on the one, the only, the incomparable....GINGER BUDDHA (a.k.a Tori Ulrich) on the show! Karen, Katie, and Tori get into a lively conversation about female friendship - a convo that reveals itself to be one of our most deep and revealing yet. It is one you will not want to miss, and, as Karen explains, is a "master class in what it is to be a good friend." The trio also chats about

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00:41:27

74. Embracing Your Uniqueness

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/02/07

Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week's show, Karen and Katie chat about how important it is to embrace what makes each of us unique. Toss aside social conditioning, crappy comments from past loves/friends/colleagues, and think about what makes you YOU! Let your freak flag fly, Friends! In addition to discussing this soul-nourishing topic, the pair also talk about some Hollywood heartthrobs of the late 90s and question where they are now and how old they might be (spoiler alert: Jude Law is only 49

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00:38:15

73. Ideas For Exhaustion

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/01/31

Good morning, Listeners, and welcome to SEASON 7! This week, Karen and Katie are discussing exhaustion, and how common of a feeling it is right now. The pair discuss an amazing Harvard Business Review piece about what to do when in survival mode - get ready to take notes! They also chat about how bears can teach us a lot about resting, and Karen brings back the 90s with a mini-rendition of Lovefool by The Cardigans. We are sending you all love, light, and energy for the week - thanks for

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00:18:42

72. (MINI POD) Making Time For Art

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/01/24

Happy Monday, Listeners! On today's mini pod, Karen and Katie chat about how great it feels to make time for art, whatever that means to you. Even if it is five minutes in a day where you do the thing that makes you feel good, it is worth it! Thanks for listening - enjoy! xo

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01:08:52

71. Reimagining Dualistic Thinking with Dr. Tania Israel

Of Course I"m Not OK: The Podcast ·

2022/01/17

The fabulous Dr. Tania Israel is BAAACCCKK!!! On this week's show, Karen and Katie get into a really exciting conversation with Dr. Israel about dualistic thinking (otherwise known as 'right/wrong' thinking), and how critical and nuanced ways of thinking/seeing the world can help us all. The trio also picks up last week's conversation about bidets, Katie discusses her wedding ring melodrama and Dr. Israel offers TONS of amazing resources for listeners looking to heal dualistic thoughts. Thanks for

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