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93. The Dangers of Missionary Zeal

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2023/10/06

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah dig in to the ever-so-complicated Savior Complex, a new HBO docu-series about a young white missionary in Uganda who may or may not have been responsible for the deaths of young children in her care. Is Renee Bach a murderer, as the activist group No White Saviors insists, or a do-gooder who got in over her head? This is a cautionary tale about missionary zeal on both sides. Also discussed:* An

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92. Marisa Meltzer Takes Us Inside a Beauty Machine

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2023/10/04

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah talk with Marisa Meltzer, author of the new book “Glossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss’s Glossier.” The pretty-in-pink makeup brand Glossier became a phenomenon after it debuted in 2014, and the book tracks the rise and not-exactly-fall of its founder Emily Weiss — telegenic, driven, an MTV star at 22 — who built a billion-dollar company that exploded on Instagram and

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91. Portnoy's Complaint

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2023/09/26

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy is transmitting from the Mojave Desert, Sarah is staring at the same old closet wall, and they’re glad to be reunited to talk about the other pizzagate, this one between the Washington Post and Dave Portnoy, certified douche-bro of Barstool Sports who nonetheless came out the winner in this week’s viral standoff. Other topics discussed:* The way the desert smalls you* The cringe factor of Portnoy’s phone

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90. Kat Rosenfield Makes Us Laugh About Culture, And...

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2023/09/21

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThis week Nancy and Sarah butter up the prolific and enviably clever journalist/novelist Kat Rosenfield. Kat takes us back to the days of writing $15 posts for MTV News and through the confounding episode of her cancellation in the young-adult fiction world, which led to a stellar career as, among other things, a culture columnist at UnHerd and co-host of the podcast Feminine Chaos. She writes compulsively

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89. Michael Moynihan on FIRE!

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2023/09/15

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThis guy was just sitting in Nancy’s apartment, so we invited him into the studio, and by “guy,” we mean Michael Moynihan, co-host of “The Fifth Column” podcast, former Vice correspondent, and favorite big-brained raconteur. And what did Michael — did we all! — want to talk about but the attempted LA Times takedown of this week’s Bari Weiss debate, a piece so deliberately rancid, we decided to read it aloud,

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88. Weird Justice: Masterson, Tarrio, Kutcher & Kunis

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2023/09/11

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comIt’s September 11, and what does it say that neither of us recalled the date the minute we woke up? And what would it be like to wake up and find you are, perhaps, being made an example of? Danny Masterson, star of That 70s Show, found out last week, as did former Proud Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio, each receiving what seem to be outsized sentences, in Masterson’s case, 30 years to life for rape, in Tarrio’s 22

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87. Chaya Leah Sufrin on the Epiphany of Weight Loss

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2023/09/07

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah are joined by Chaya Leah Sufrin, one-half of the wonderful “Ask a Jew” podcast, to talk about a subject she’s mostly avoided: Weight and her own body. Chaya Leah recently lost 45 pounds, which coincides with a season when Sarah was shedding weight too, making for one big conversation about diets, discipline, self-care versus self-neglect, and the mental health savior that is exercise. Topics

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86. Ethan Strauss Is Our Kind of Sports Writer

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2023/09/01

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comEthan Strauss, the wunderkind of the House of Strauss, joins groupies fans Sarah and Nancy to talk about …* Nike ads and the failure of trying to sell what does not resonate* Sports in an era of “toxic masculinity” * The atomization of men?* The podcaster/comedian Ethan and Sarah bonded over* Ethan’s 2 + 2 magic formula for success* Why football’s downfall was greatly exaggerated * Why we love old men in coffee

25:08

85. Sex! Marriage! Divorce!

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2023/08/22

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com* Porno chic = a real moment in American culture* A NYT column introduces a great question about sex, but the advice? zzzzz* Jesse Singal on sex drive differences between men and women* That time Sarah’s boyfriend lost his attraction for her* How often do married people actually have sex?* The problem with sex statistics: Everyone lies* Could extramarital sex be a marital aid?* Why is Nancy glowing?* New

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84. Jennifer Senior Turns Pain Into Beauty

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2023/08/15

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOur guest today is the remarkable Jennifer Senior, who won the 2022 Pulitzer for Feature Writing for her Atlantic essay “What Bobby McIlvane Left Behind,” written on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. She’s been a book critic and columnist for the NYT, a staff writer for New York magazine, and her book All Joy and No Fun: The Paradox of Modern Parenthood, spent eight weeks on The New York Times Best Seller list. She

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83. Thou Dost Dirty Talk Too Much

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2023/08/10

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com Up for discussion this week:* The mysterious “TMFINR” woman on the plane is found, and it turns out she was Sarah’s neighbor!* Is it wrong to reveal the identity of someone who accidentally became famous?* Florida school officials fear Romeo and Juliet may make teenagers horny* Sarah celebrates with some of Shakespeare’s dirtiest lines* Nancy was a soft-core pornographer???* A new law has Pornhub shutting down

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82. The Shame Game

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2023/08/03

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com* Wait, Lizzo wants that dancer to eat a banana from where? We look at the lawsuit filed against Lizzo by three dancers that includes many wild details, but Sarah is suspicious of that “fat-shaming” accusation * How did Jim Larkin and Mike Lacey, two alt-journalism pioneers and heroes, get smeared by government lawyers as “child sex traffickers” and have their assets, their reputations and their freedom taken

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81. "They Didn't Realize I Was a Seed" - Sinead...

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2023/07/29

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“They tried to bury me,” Sinead O’Connor said in the 2022 documentary about her, Nothing Compares. “They didn’t realize I was a seed.” We look back at the life and legacy of Sinead O’Connor, who died this week at the age of 56. Sinead was a firebrand onstage, but her 2021 memoir Rememberings reveals her to be funny and unpretentious and not very interested in fame. She was a protest singer cast in the role of

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80. Bob and Barbie Save the (Movie) World

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2023/07/25

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comWe Barbenheimer-ed! And we weren’t the only ones: Sarah found a 20-minute concession line in Dallas, the loo in NYC was out of toilet paper, and the two films took in more than $500 million globally. Still, would America have cared as much had the cinematic landscape not been so scorched-earth? Would Oppenheimer have been better as a mini-series? Did a Ken doll get more screen time than all the women in

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79. Barbie Everlasting

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2023/07/22

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOn the docket this week: * Nancy has crisis-of-masculinity fatigue* Jonah Hill and what do people expect from posting private encounters* Lost Girls, the Gilgo Beach serial killer, (not) understanding sadism* The unlikely origin story of Barbie* Is Barbie “everything the feminist movement was trying to escape from,” as Gloria Steinem said, or is she actually a feminist success story? * The question of Ken’s

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Sophie Scott on 10 Things You Should Know About the...

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2023/07/19

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy here. Among the things I learned reading Sophie Scott’s fabulous, super-smart and sexy new book, The Brain: 10 Things You Should Know: The brain itself has no feeling, I could be poking your exposed brain with my fingers (though I wouldn’t!… I don’t think) and you’d be like, “Pass the salt, please.” That everything we experience is the brain’s best guess at what is out there. And that while your body

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78. Penis Talk

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2023/07/09

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comIn this week’s episode:* Nancy’s pro tips on trying to stitch herself* The TikTok lady on the plane who claimed “that m***erfucker isn’t real” prompts a talk on the dangers of mixing Ambien and alcohol, the nature of religion, and what technology is doing to our sense of reality* The New Yorker’s story on penis enlargement surgery makes Nancy yelp* The REAL reason men want larger penises is…* What is tetanus

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LIVE! Smoke 'Em Does Dallas

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2023/06/27

The hosts behind the podcasts The Unspeakable and Smoke ‘Em were just sitting around being all heterodoxy when lo! The call came from the newly formed University of Austin: Want to come to Dallas to discuss the current state of media, whether feminism has impacted the desire to raise children, how we treat the work of artists whose behaviors we don’t agree with, and to answer student questions along the lines of, for instance, how are you a “feminine woman”? Yes please!And so Meghan Daum, Sarah, and

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77. The Love Robots Are Coming

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2023/06/19

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy reports from storm-strewn Tulsa while Sarah reports from the future, where they discuss:* The worst storm in Tulsa since 2007, not that the news is covering it* Sarah has a new boyfriend, and he is exactly one day old* The predictive genius of the movie Her* Is it cheating if you’re fooling around with an AI?* Do we have to tell our partners everything?* The future where Siri becomes personalized, and we

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Pie Talk #18: Zucchini Bread (with a side of Portland)

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2023/06/18

Good morning from the Delta Lounge at LaGuardia airport. Got here from the pad in Chinatown and through security (thanks, Clear!) in 25 minutes, a record. En route to Oklahoma, where this happened yesterday. Also in Texas, where I’ll be headed Monday or Tuesday, and eventually on Thursday to Dallas, for an on-stage event with the University of Austin (yes in Dallas, though apparently there are more local digs in the works) with Hepola and Meghan Daum. The event is for students-only but UATX is

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