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Museum Confidential

Philbrook Museum of Art

Museum Confidential is a behind-the-scenes look at museums hosted by Jeff Martin. The show is a co-production of Philbrook Museum of Art and Public Radio Tulsa. New episodes every two weeks.

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29:46

John Waters on Indecent Exposure

Museum Confidential ·

2018/11/08

Legendary filmmaker and so-called "Pope of Trash" John Waters has a brand new project in his beloved hometown. On view through January 6, 2019 at the Baltimore Museum of Art, "Indecent Exposure" is the first retrospective of Waters' visual arts career, featuring more than 160 provocative photographs, sculptures, and video/sound works. We sat down to chat about the show, the 30th anniversary of "Hairspray," and a few other things. For more information visit artbma.org

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32:41

The Afterlife of Edward Gorey

Museum Confidential ·

2018/10/26

In our special Halloween episode, we step into the macabre with acclaimed writer Mark Dery, author of the new biography, Born to be Posthumous: The Eccentric Genius and Mysterious Life of Edward Gorey. Often called the “Grandfather of Goth,” Gorey’s work influenced Tim Burton, Neil Gaiman, Lemony Snicket, and countless others.

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39:01

Two Scoops: The Museum of Ice Cream and The New York...

Museum Confidential ·

2018/10/11

We all scream. The Museum of Ice Cream (MOIC) is attempting to blaze a new trail in the museum world. But sometimes that’s a rocky road. First up, a chat with Madison Utendahl, MOIC’s Head of Content and Social. Closing out the show, and for an entirely different take on the emergence of “Instagrammable” or “Pop-Up” museums, we call up Amanda Hess, Critic-at-Large for The New York Times.

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25:25

The Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia

Museum Confidential ·

2018/09/28

Museums aren't always meant to be enjoyable experiences. That doesn't mean they are not important and essential. On this episode, we sit down with Dr. David Pilgrim, founder and curator of the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia at Ferris State University in Michigan. The museum was born out of his personal collection, one that began decades ago, when Dr. Pilgrim was growing up in Alabama. Our podcast also profiles a recent art project utilizing the Confederate flag.

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28:36

This Old House (Museum)

Museum Confidential ·

2018/09/13

This episode offers a chat with Alexis Light, Senior Manager of Media Relations and Marketing at The Frick Collection. She is that NYC museum's thought leader when it comes to public relations, marketing, and social media content. Also in this pod, we begin an occasional feature called "At a Museum in America." Our far-flung, gallery-going correspondent for this new feature is one Preston Poe, an independent curator, artist, and songwriter who also hosts "The Preston Poe Show" (which you can access

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32:01

The Bob Dylan Un-Museum

Museum Confidential ·

2018/08/31

In our Season Two opener we sit down with Bob Dylan Archive curator, Michael Chaiken to talk about how they’re trying to NOT make a museum with the forthcoming Bob Dylan Center. We also chat about his path to getting the position, music, and of course, Mr. Zimmerman himself.

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28:06

Part 15: Museum Mailbag

Museum Confidential ·

2018/04/27

On the season one finale we try our hand at a podcast classic, the vaunted “mailbag” episode. We invited social media followers to “ask us anything” about Philbrook or museums in general. We then gathered a panel of experts to provide answers, or at least attempt to. Results vary. See you this fall for season two.

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27:22

Part 14: Art Church

Museum Confidential ·

2018/04/13

The Rothko Chapel, established in 1971 in Houston, is both a sacred space and a modern art mainstay. Dedicated to non-denominational prayer and private contemplation -- and also to international peace and fellowship -- the building routinely hosts lectures, concerts, interfaith gatherings, and similar events. And at its heart, of course, are fourteen very dark, luminous, large-scale paintings by the late Mark Rothko. We speak with David Leslie, the executive director of the Rothko Chapel.

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47:25

Part 13: The Experimental Philosopher

Museum Confidential ·

2018/03/30

Let’s be honest, conceptual art is polarizing. Sometimes intentionally so. We explore this and more in a wide-ranging and fascinating chat with self-proclaimed Experimental Philosopher, Jonathon Keats. From his early childhood days selling rocks for a penny to large-scale thought experiments commissioned by prestigious institutions, his career is nothing if not unique. As described in the pages of Wired magazine by science fiction author Bruce Sterling, “the guy is tireless.”

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28:03

Part 12: In The Beginning...

Museum Confidential ·

2018/03/16

On this episode we take an in-depth look at the very first Philbrook Director, Eugene Kingman. An acclaimed artist in his own right, Kingman’s journey included stops at Yale, The Rhode Island School of Design, the offices of The New York Times, and the organization that would become the C.I.A. We chat with Mark Brown, longtime journalist and executive assistant to the current Philbrook Director.

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27:28

Part 11: The Right to Fail: Getting to Know The...

Museum Confidential ·

2018/03/02

What are we saying when we refer to a piece as "bad" art? All of us probably have guilty pleasures, or maybe a favorite mistake or two, but what does it mean to seek out and really cherish certain works of bad art? This episode of our podcast features a conversation with Louise Sacco, the so-called Permanent Acting Interim Executive Director of MOBA (a/k/a The Museum of Bad Art).

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39:51

Part 10: The Thing Called Love

Museum Confidential ·

2018/02/16

For our special Valentine's Day episode we explore many different kinds of love, from the boomtown couple that founded Philbrook to the supposed foot fetishism of an iconic French artist. Keep an ear out for cameos by Marie Antoinette and Edward Hopper.

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32:50

Part 9: Best of the West

Museum Confidential ·

2018/02/02

Gilcrease Museum houses the world’s largest and most comprehensive collection of art and artifacts of the American West. This episode features a chat with Gilcrease Senior Curator Laura Fry and special appearances by Neil Young and Henry Kissinger.

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28:11

Part 8: Poetic License-Inside MoMA

Museum Confidential ·

2018/01/19

Explore the bookish side of museums in a revealing conversation with poet, Kenneth Goldsmith, the first and only Poet Laureate at New York City's iconic Museum of Modern Art (MoMA).

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37:09

Part 7: The Forgotten Man

Museum Confidential ·

2018/01/05

Arguably at the height of his career with work in Vanity Fair and Vogue, regularly shooting the likes of Jesse Owens, Gary Cooper, and Katharine Hepburn, photographer Lusha Nelson died in 1938 at the age of 30. His personal archive remained lost until 2015 when it was rediscovered by Philbrook. Hear the amazing true story.

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34:11

Part 6: Everyone's a Critic

Museum Confidential ·

2017/12/22

Movies and museums. Museums and movies. They go together like popcorn and Milk Duds. On this installment of our podcast, we speak with Charles Elmore of the Oklahoma Film Critics Circle. Topics include memorable motion pictures of 2017, what makes a film an "art film," how today's so-called Golden Age of Television relates to (or doesn't relate to) today's films and filmmakers, and so forth.

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38:01

Part 5: Drawing Conclusions

Museum Confidential ·

2017/12/08

Our first in-depth artist chat, with acclaimed photorealist, Karl Haendel. Topics range from the best types of pencils and football to Dutch artist M.C. Escher and politics. See Haendel's work in the current Philbrook Downtown show, "Game On."

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46:59

Part 4: The Art of the Playlist

Museum Confidential ·

2017/11/22

Sweetness! It's an extended and ever-so-tuneful edition of our podcast for the extended holiday weekend. Listen in as our host Jeff Martin and producer Scott Gregory dig various songs and/or bands inspired by art and/or artists and/or museums and/or The Muse. Sonic bliss? Odd audio? Both? Neither? It's in the ear of the beholder, friends. Look for the companion "Museum Confidential" playlist on Spotify.

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31:01

Part 3: Ask The Experts

Museum Confidential ·

2017/11/10

An in-depth chat with Hrag Vartanian (Hyperallergic) and Sharon Louden, two of the most prominent thought leaders in the art world today. Topics range from early museum experiences to a one-way trip to Mars.

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30:17

Part 2: The Price of Art

Museum Confidential ·

2017/10/27

Explore a different side of legendary actor Vincent Price for our special Halloween episode with Philbrook curator, Christina E. Burke. Guest starring Michael Jackson, Johnny Carson, and Jack Nicholson. Hosted by Jeff Martin and produced by Scott Gregory .

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