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A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica

Claire Mazur & Erica Cerulo

Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We"ve heard this weekly podcast described as a "unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things," and we"re very much on board with that take.

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00:46:12

A Romantic-Fiction Primer and Some...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/09/12

Let’s go in-depth on romance novels! But first, we’re chatting with Madeline Nusser from Allstate Identity Protection, which oh-so-graciously sponsored this episode, to dig into something equally sexy: doing what you can to thwart identity theft. Go to AIP.com/AThingOrTwo today to see if Allstate Identity Protection is available through your employer. If not sign up there to get a 30-day free trial.. Check out The Washington Post article on the rise of romance in the U.S. and this Twitter

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00:41:19

Crowd Favorite: Michigan Star Restaurants, Patient...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/09/05

You know what we have a lot to say about in this best-of-2011 ep? A lot of things, from high praise for neighborhood restaurants and actually useful apps to sharing weddings FAQs and advocating for yourself at the doctor’s office. If you want to sell others on the Michigan Star restaurant, maybe send them this quickie podcast pitch we did on The Best Advice Show. Behold, the Covid wedding template of our dreams: Our beloved friends & family, It's only 30 days until our wedding

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00:37:07

Stroll Don’t Scroll, Organized Whimsy, and Grandma...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/08/29

Join us! We’re revisiting how we approach creativity and talk about people who refuse to be hemmed in by expectations and the algorithm. For some insight about opening up to what interests you at a time and trusting that it will serve you, check out Steve Martin’s memoir, Born Standing Up, and read Pamela Adlon’s essay for Harper’s Bazaar. After watching the newest Julia on HBO Max, we’re doing a Judith Jones deep-dive—next up: reading her memoir The Tenth Muse: My Life in Food. Another

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00:49:06

Kavi Ahuja Moltz’s Thingies and a Good Ol’...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/08/22

It’s Guest Thingies Day! We’re so excited to chat with Kavi Ahuja Moltz, the CEO of the exceptional scent co. D.S. & DURGA and the sort of person who knows cool stuff, always. But first: potty-training and a related story from Romper about camping with kids. Our favorite D.S. & DURGA perfumes include Italian Citrus, Coriander, and Rose Atlantic…and don’t sleep on the candles and genius auto fragrances, either. Ooh, also: This one-minute quiz is surprisingly delightful. Kavi’s

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00:44:11

Best of the Monday Newsletter and Hamlet, but with...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/08/15

It’s time to chat about all the stuff we’re obsessed with lately, most of which has been included in our Monday newsletter—do you get that thing?? Keep an eye on Fat Ham, a play we think will definitely have a second life, ideally on Broadway. We both got a lot out of Burn Rate by Bonobos founder Andy Dunn, which tells the story of founding, running, and ultimately selling his company all while grappling with severe bipolar disorder. For another excellent memoir about bipolar disorder,

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00:39:21

Gardening, Second Kids, and Slackers

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/08/08

Buckle in, folks! This week, we’re talking about our garden-curator journeys, second-kid thoughts, and the slacker–to–chaos goblin line cook pipeline. Looking for Fast-Growing Trees? Thank goodness there’s a company that sells exactly those. Love the Bloomerang lilac shrub, and you clearly need to know about the smoothie kit. If you wanna grow the ~cool~ flowers, check out Plantgem. A few faves they sell: ProCut plum sunflower, crocus saffron bulbs, and Irene Parrot tulip bulbs. Peony

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00:49:42

Noah Kalina's Thingies and Destination Sandwiches

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/08/01

This is a jam-packed episode: We’ve got destination sandwiches. We’ve got photographer Noah Kalina’s Thingies. We’ve got baby-wipes expertise from grown-ups. Ready? Great. If you’re in NYC, please scurry to & Sons Buttery for their salami cotto sandwich (please also eat at the restaurant—a ham bar!) and Court Street Grocers for their vegitalian. Special shoutout to The Bobbie from Capriotti’s in Wilmington, Delaware, too. For further destination-sandwich reading, check out Helen Rosner's

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00:46:42

Corrections, Follow-Ups, and Milan

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/07/25

It’s about time for an addendums episode! AKA an ep where we dump our additional thoughts (and your feedback) on topics we’ve discussed—because there’s always more to say about styling, aging, and, apparently, catalogs. Looking for a method to define your personal style? Check out Allison Bornstein’s Three-Word Method on TikTok: part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, and part 6 for your clicking pleasure. (Call us with your wooords!!) More about her philosophy in this Harper’s Bazaar

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00:51:05

Lauren Sherman's Thingies and It's a Trip, Not a...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/07/18

Who better to talk Thingies with than Lauren Sherman, the chief correspondent at The Business of Fashion and the host of their wonderful—and quick!—new podcast The Debrief?! NOBODY. She fills us in on the third-wave coffee movement (We have a lot of questions.), a great investment T-shirt, and the trick that keeps her kid well-rested while traveling. Speaking of travel: There is a difference between a trip and a vacation, and we’d like to manage some expectations. Listen to The Debrief—it has

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00:45:24

A Bouquet Hack, a Brunch Cookout, and What to Wear...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/07/11

Today in mishmashes: We’re sharing some of the tricks and treats we’ve discovered recently, featuring Claire’s flower-wrapping upgrade, Erica’s brunch cookout recipes, and what to wear when it's hot, hot, hot. Erica’s rooftop brunch agenda included ordering donuts (from Doughnut Plant if you’re in NYC), finding a reliable friend to be in charge of grilling sausages (or, um, sausage strips!), and whipping up two frittatas: the mustard-asparagus one from Cookie + Kate and the mushroom-ricotta

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00:49:57

Crowd Favorite: Obligation, People-Pleasing, and...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/07/04

This episode—a 2021 crowd-pleaser!!—is all about the pressures we feel on our lives and our time (and, to a lesser extent, our necks and our tailbones). Don’t sleep on this one, is what we’re saying. Live that ComfiLife! Side-sleep with a Hullo pillow! The “Things We Want to Leave Behind and How to Start a Running Routine” ep we reference. The Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin—there’s also a quiz for that. A handful of reads related to parenting (and, sigh, house work): All Joy

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00:39:09

Aging and Longing (Um, the Wisdom Episode?)

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/06/27

We’re wise enough to know it’s about time for a ~wisdom~ ep. We share our feelings about feeling our age and some excellent advice we caught about living with a little longing. Some readings that impacted how we’ve been navigating aging include Being Mortal by Atul Gawande, Casey Johnston’s Swole Woman program, Cheryl Wischover’s “What Changed When I Started Lifting Weights” in the Gloria newsletter, and Kayleen Schaefer’s “How 50 Pushups A Day Helped Me Cope In An Uncertain World” for

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00:41:03

Getting Dressed and Making Small Talk—SO HARD

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/06/20

Today we’re answering a listener question that we’ve been asking ourselves our whole lives: How TF does one get dressed (and, you know, feel good about what they’re wearing)? Also: We grapple with the big challenges we’re having with small talk. For those looking for a tailor in NYC, Mend Tailoring and Alteration Specialists do house calls, and Silhouettes & Profiles on the UWS is great. In L.A., it’s all about Elias in Santa Monica. Check out Amy Smilovic, Katie Sturino, and Jenna

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00:40:47

How We Vacation-Plan and Y2K Trends, the Second Time...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/06/13

So you picked a travel destination…and then what? We’re sharing the (only somewhat insane!) steps we take and the resources we love for planning a vacation. Also: Let’s spend a moment discussing the late nineties/early aughts trends that are re-catching our eyes and the ones we think we won’t wear again. Some reflections on the Miu Miu skirt ℅ this NYT article “Brief Encounters With a Micro Miniskirt.” When thinking about trip-planning, this Harvard Busiess Review article on "The Hidden

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00:47:11

Guest Thingies with Emma Straub and Negotiating...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/06/06

Guest Thingies from Emma Straub—what a treat! If you haven’t read her many charming novels, start with her latest, This Time Tomorrow, and if you haven’t patronized her beloved Brooklyn bookstore Books Are Magic, we know you’re aching to remedy that. First up: business/money advice we’ve gotten that’s as quippy as it is useful. Emma’s Thingies: skincare, tea, allergy meds, and big underpants—starring facials from Rescue Spa, Biologique Recherche Lotion P50 toner, and Peter Thomas Roth 24K

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00:52:15

Crowd Favorite: Fighting Perfectionism and...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/05/30

Revisiting a crowd fave from last year! Happy Memorial Day! Has perfectionism jumped the shark? And how do we remember names when we start meeting new people again?! Clearly, we have a lot of questions (and some answers). If you like this, you’ll probably really like Secret Menu. A couple books that made us ponder perfectionism: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, Yolk by Mary H.K. Choi, and Drop the Ball by Tiffany Dufu. Related convos: our ambition ep, this episode of Jam Session, and the Wit

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00:48:45

"Um, What Watches?!" and Other Gifting Qs Answered

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/05/23

It’s that sneaky second gifting season of the year (dads, grads, retirements, anniversaries…you get it!), and we’re here to answer your calls for help. Ooh, speaking of calls: Want to leave us a voicemail at 833-632-5463 and share any thoughts/feelings that demand our podcasting attention? If it’s time to gift someone a watch: Max Bill for Junghans and Baume & Mercier Classima are classics and about $1k. Uniform Wares has minimalist vibes and top out around $500. Check out Fewer Finer for

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00:47:49

What We Always, Always Pack and How to Travel with a...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/05/16

We’re dipping our toes back into going places, and there’s been a real learning curve, tell you what. We’re talking toddlers ‘n travel and unpacking our packing lessons. Now to just remember to put this stuff in a carry-on next time… Our forever packing list: Birkenstock EVAs (the Madrid style especially) and ‘tween pants like the Outdoor Voices jogger, a multi-functional kanga/wrap/scarf, a chambray shirt, a Baggu tote, a flat clutch (Clare V. and Madewell make some good ones), an umbrella,

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00:42:09

Collier Meyerson’s Thingies (Hello, Femme Sandals!)...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/05/09

How excited are we to talk Thingies with Collier Meyerson? So. Her most recent project Love Thy Neighbor is a podcast about a 1991 event known as the Crown Heights riot and what it says about about racism, antisemitism, and police violence here and now. Collier comes bearing books, outdoor couches, and alt uses for photo-printing sites. But first: a bit of breast-feeding intel. Some further reading from our breastfeeding/weaning discussion: Joanna Goddard’s piece about her first episode of

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00:43:03

Records, Catalogs, and Business Hygiene—That's Right,...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/05/02

Ready for a grab bag? ALWAYS, right? We surprise ourselves by endorsing record players, we bemoan how few catalogs are getting it right, and we share some coming-of-age retail thoughts. Oh, and we break down the term “business hygiene,” which doesn’t involve deodorant at all. Two record-player recs: Technics by Panasonic Direct Drive Player System (Craigslist is a good place to shop for this!) and The+Record Player for an all-in-one option. But how ‘bout the records themselves?! Check out

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