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Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians,

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46:28

David Thomas on What Makes a Healthy Parent (Type 1)...

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2022/10/27

As the director of family counseling at Daystar Counseling in Nashville, TN, David Thomas has seen some patterns develop over the years. “Some of the healthiest parents I have worked with over the years are parents in recovery,” says David. “Because you've done your work: those basic tenets of ‘I understand I have a struggle, I need God, I need community.’” Those are principles that apply for everyone, whether in recovery or not, and they reflect a kind of humble acknowledgement of reality that

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50:33

Finding Meaning Beyond Motherhood with Erin S. Lane...

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2022/10/20

Is motherhood really the hardest job in the world? Is there such a thing as a biological clock? Is motherhood the highest calling? And is it true that you can’t truly know love until you’re a mother? For Erin Lane, the mythology around motherhood has gotten out of hand. “How did we make motherhood an occupational, performative, identity based measure of worth?” This week, we speak to Erin Lane about these questions, and how being an Enneagram 5 has helped her break out of the scripts our culture

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52:12

Colin O’Brady Achieves It All (Type 3) [S06-0015]

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2022/10/13

In addition to breaking ten world records, Colin O’Brady’s feats include the world’s first solo, unsupported, and fully human-powered crossing of Antarctica, speed records for the Explorers Grand Slam and the Seven Summits, and the first human-powered ocean row across Drake Passage. Would you be surprised to hear he’s a three on the Enneagram? But as he grows older, his approach to achieving his goals is changing. “It's not the same burning desire, like deep in my bones,” says Colin. Is he losing

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52:20

Pantsuit Politics’ Sarah and Beth Explore the Divide...

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2022/10/06

This week, we step bravely into the world of politics, investigating the reasons it feels more divided than ever, and how we can truly listen to one another. Sarah and Beth started discussing these issues from opposite sides of the aisle, and while their positions have changed over time, they still believe in the power of dialoguing with those who disagree. In fact, they see their shifting positions on politics and government as a sign of the value of truly hearing one another out. But listening

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42:16

Maud Newton on the Repetitions in Her Family (Type 4)...

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2022/09/29

When Maud Newton read about the traits of the Enneagram Four, she had to laugh out of pure recognition. “On my mother's side, there was this impulse toward larger than life stories. There wasn't really shame around difficult histories and that sort of thing. The greatest sin was to be boring.” Maud’s ancestors were anything but boring. In this episode, Maud shares what she’s learned about herself through exploring her ancestors' lives, and explains how we’re setting ourselves up to repeat our

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44:12

Mattie Jackson Wanted to Be The Best 28-Year Old...

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2022/09/22

Just three weeks shy of their one-year anniversary, the unthinkable happened. Mattie’s 28-year-old husband died unexpectedly, leaving her with a massive hole in her life. But being an Enneagram three becomes a double-edged sword in grief: “This compulsion to perform that I have, in whatever I'm doing, was one of my greatest assets in my grief,” says Jackson, who adds, “It was also one of the things that I had to be the most careful to keep in check.” This week, we hear how she pursued personal

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Mary Gauthier Has Six Decades Worth of Story (Type 8)...

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2022/09/15

Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter Mary Gauthier has experienced abandonment from her mother, put herself in positions where she would inevitably be betrayed, come to terms with the power of her anger, and found herself struggling with addiction and alcoholism. But for Mary, so much of that tumult and life experience came from a sense of internal intensity. “The self-destructive and self-constructive forces inside of me,” she says, “are both very, very strong.” That conflict often can be too much to

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58:17

Success is Never Enough with Steve Taylor (Type 7)...

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2022/09/08

Every creative has a dream project: something they’d love to do if they had infinite time and resources. But what if you got the chance to pull off that dream project, and it didn’t succeed? That’s what happened to Steve Taylor, who poured himself into directing Blue Like Jazz, only to see a middling response at the theater. To him, that result felt like humiliation. This week, we hear about how his experience creating art for a living has changed his approach to success, risk-taking, and his own

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52:25

Spiritual Bypassing with AJ Sherrill (Type 3) [S06-009]

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2022/09/01

This week, we’re going deep! With the help of the author of The Enneagram for Spiritual Formation, we discuss the various ways the Enneagram can be used narcissistically, and how to avoid those pitfalls. Then, we discuss spiritual bypassing, or the ways each type can end up evading the essential personal work they need to do to grow as an individual. AJ Sherrill (DMin, Fuller Theological Seminary) has more than twenty years of experience as a pastor, including as lead pastor at Mars Hill Bible

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41:41

After Grief, Shauna Niequest Finds a Deeper Empathy...

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2022/08/25

In the span of a few years, Shauna Niequest found herself experiencing a series of changes and heartbreaks that left her feeling like a completely different person. But in the end, she found herself more easily feeling empathy for those who were going through grief themselves. In this episode, Shauna and and I discuss the importance of finding the right geographical place for who you are, the various practices that can help us work through our grief, and how our attempts to outrun grief will always

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37:39

Julie Solomon’s Search for Acceptance (Type 3) [S06-007]

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2022/08/18

When her husband discovered Julie Solomon’s thirty thousand dollars of credit card debt, she became acutely aware of how her narrative about herself had failed her. But that moment also kicked off a mutual journey of growth in her marriage. In this episode, Julie explains how being an Enneagram 3 can be a burden as well as a gift, how growing up in a lower-income household led to a complicated relationship with money, and how being married to an Enneagram 4 taught her not to have all the answers.

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59:21

Living in the Present with Jeanne Stevens (Type 8)...

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2022/08/11

For Jeanne Stevens, it didn't take long to see herself in her Enneagram type. But it took the experience of facing three deep losses in a short period of time to finally learn how to process—and ultimately let go—of grief, freeing her up to truly live in the present. In today's episode, Jeanne shares how a childhood experience led her to believe a narrative about her life that no longer serves her. She also shares the ways she's learned to live in the present through noticing and naming what's

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45:10

Mallory Ervin Shares the Blessing of Her Crash (Type...

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2022/08/04

Known for exuding energy, joy, and laughter, former Miss Kentucky and three-time contestant of The Amazing Race, Mallory Ervin reveals her fear of being average and how her hunger to achieve publicly resulted in a big wake-up call. In today’s episode, we explore her personal story of overcoming the unhealthy and damaging patterns in her life, the turning point that made her go to treatment, and how her time in recovery helped unmask and reveal her true self, allowing her to “live fully.” Mallory

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15:04

Identify Your Origin Story with S.O.A.R. (Step 4:...

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2022/07/28

What is the life that you want to live? The final step of S.O.A.R. is to rewrite your old story and write a new one that is fulfilling and true to who you are. The goal is to challenge the old, taken for granted, broken beliefs of your old story and lean into what the future looks like. So how do you do that? In today’s episode, I’ll walk you through a few proactive approaches you can take for lasting transformation. For more exercises, reflection prompts, and guided questions, pick up a copy of

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28:45

Identify Your Origin Story with S.O.A.R. (Step 3:...

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2022/07/21

This week, we’re talking about Step 3 of S.O.A.R. and what it means to awaken. We’ll explore mindfulness practice, why all of us need to develop this muscle, and we will share a few more tips for rewriting your story. This is just the sort of work I lead you through in my new The Story of You Workbook. Get your copy here.

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21:33

Identify Your Origin Story with S.O.A.R. (Step 2:...

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2022/07/14

What has your broken narrative cost you? This week, we're moving on to step 2 of the acronym S.O.A.R. from The Story of You, which is to 'own' your story. I explain what it means to 'own' your story and why this step is essential on your journey toward transformation. For more exercises, reflection prompts, and guided questions that can help you make lasting changes, pick up a copy of The Story of You Workbook.

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31:32

Identify Your Origin Story with S.O.A.R. (Step 1:...

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2022/07/07

For the next four weeks, I’m going to walk you through each step of the acronym S.O.A.R. to help you identify and rewrite your origin story. The S.O.A.R. acronym is four simple steps you can begin to journey through in order to relax your grip on the old story and craft a new one. In this episode, I explain the first step of S.O.A.R. which is to ‘see’ how you became who you are today. In order to narrate a new story, we must first explore and accept our history. I share a few questions to get you

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Feeding Your Brain to Become Your Best Self, feat....

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2022/06/30

When growing in self-awareness, it’s important to be able to recognize, or identify, what your triggers are. If you’re a regular listener, you’ve heard me talk about how critical meditation and journaling are to strengthen your ability to respond to life rather than react. But, how we treat our bodies is also important. When I notice I feel anxious, envious, or irritable, I like to pause and notice how I’m feeling physically. I ask myself, “how did I sleep last night?”, “do I need to go for a

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01:04:59

Pathological: More than a Diagnosis, feat. Sarah Fay...

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2022/06/23

After reading Pathological: The True Story of Six Misdiagnoses, I was delighted to have the opportunity to sit down and discuss the book with author Sarah Fay. In this exploration of the ways we pathologize our human experiences, Sarah opens the door to a new conversation about mental health. In this episode, Sarah shares: How and why do we categorize ourselves to make everyday life easier How any diagnosis can turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy Her recommendations for when you are handed a

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01:05:45

The Resilience of the Mind, feat. Dr. Caroline Leaf...

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2022/06/16

This week we’re continuing our series on feeding the brain. There’s an ample amount of research about the importance of tapping into the mind-body connection, or tuning into our emotional and mental states, to rewire our neuropathways and relieve anxiety, depression, and intrusive thoughts. Dr. Caroline Leaf joins me for a fascinating conversation about “cleaning up the mental mess” and taking back control over your thoughts and life. In today’s episode, Dr. Leaf: explains the difference between

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