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Heterodorx

“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com

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All Episodes

01:17:25

Karen Davis Isn't Kidding

Heterodorx ·

2021/06/21

The Dorx welcome musician, teacher, YouTuber, and gender-critical feminist Karen Davis to discuss funeral homes, fetishes, firing, and fun. It’s a characteristically lively conversation for Karen, whose YouTube channel is at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYj9xEuFEQORfVK3k1kPxQw Enjoy! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support

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00:53:20

What If We Win?

Heterodorx ·

2021/06/13

The Dorx celebrate Maya Forstater’s Free Speech victory in the UK. Are the ideological tides finally turning? Nina contemplates the dissolution of friendships if the pressure of fighting against insanity is lifted. Corinna worries that Gender Critical extremists will “go after trans people.” This gradually leads to an argument about the Aimee Stephens case, in which a funeral home employee was fired for being trans - or was it for being male and violating the dress code? A TERF vs. Tranny conflict

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00:39:59

True Trans, Good Trans, TRUSCUM, Authentic Trans,...

Heterodorx ·

2021/06/07

The sarcasm flows like California wine as Nina and Corinna tilt their heads and discuss what the heck “true trans” might mean. On the subject of “passing,” Nina forgets to mention this quote, often attributed to PT Barnum, that sums up her position: "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Then, in a dazzling display of creativity, the Dorx think of an improved Inclusive Flag that can be incorporated into

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00:42:53

Serious Sixty and Sarcasmagoria

Heterodorx ·

2021/06/01

In this special episode (they’re ALL special! And valid!) the opening Heterodorx theme song is sung by Corinna, who unwittingly promotes a new LGBT breakfast cereal before discussing a recent episode of 60 Minutes that invoked the fury of Kellogg’s partner GLAAD (along with the ACLU, HRC, and other Men’s Rights activists). Nina cries herself to sleep over Corinna’s tragic and pathetic life; Corinna identifies as an Aquarius while Nina is Astro-nonconforming; and the Dorx are stumped by a puzzling

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00:52:05

A Black Band-Aid for White Guilt with Chris Waites

Heterodorx ·

2021/05/24

Chris Waites is an Amateur Open-Mic Comedian, professional Grocery Shelf-Stocker, mild-mannered provocateur, and self-described “Nobody”. After sorting out Chris’s pronouns, the Dorx discuss BANDAIDGATE. Are “regular” Band-Aids “white”? Are “black” Band-Aids “black”? Are any humans the same color as Band-Aids? What happens when a black man questions the wisdom of chocolate band-aids on fecebook? Nina suggests “fitting in” is a neoliberal Capitalist plot, while Chris learns he is "privileged" to not

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00:46:18

The Dorx Don't Save The World

Heterodorx ·

2021/05/17

Our more-or-less Jewish hosts share their sub-optimally-informed opinions about conflict in the Middle East. Perhaps the colonization of Palestine could be resisted by misgendering Israelis? But first, Corinna talks about why Ellen DeGeneres doesn’t belong in Hollywood. Later, Corinna plugs Target’s new queer-branded product line, and threatens to buy Nina an “ALLY” t-shirt. Corinna is propositioned in Corinna’s ‘hood (notice how I’m avoiding pronouns here? awkward!), and donates to Nina’s

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01:08:06

Metamodernism with Greg Dember

Heterodorx ·

2021/05/10

Metamodernism is a response to Postmodernism, which is a response to Modernism, which is a response to Traditionalism. The Dorx discuss that and more with Greg Dember, one of Metamodernism’s leading experts. Nina wants to know if her movies Sita Sings the Blues and Seder-Masochism are metamodern, and Greg obliges with an answer! (Spoiler: yes.) After Nina compares metamodernist media to porn, using the metaphor of “the money shot,” Greg suggests she might have her very own episteme. Corinna

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00:34:35

With Allies Like These, Who Needs Axes?

Heterodorx ·

2021/05/03

This lighthearted, rollicking episode opens with Nina posting Corinna’s rant “Against Allies” (from last week’s episode) on fecebook, to the chagrin of some “allies”. (The next day, Nina gets a 24-hour fecebook ban for “hate speech.”) Then Nina and Corinna discuss the political indoctrination, or lack thereof, of their respective childhoods. They go on to cover how advocacy groups reduce diversity, the discovery of a “third race,” the retraction of Richard Dawkins’ decades-old Humanist award, the

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00:22:01

Against Allies

Heterodorx ·

2021/04/26

This week's mercifully short episode opens with both Nina and Corinna exhausted from dealing with Internet bullshit. Corinna talks about being drawn into the manipulative abuse of a transphobic gay man on Clubhouse. Nina reminisces about an organization that used to exist to help poor women have access to reproductive health resources. In between, Corinna goes on a magnificent rant against "allies," which should be bronzed for posterity. If you listen to only 2 minutes of Heterodorx, start at 08:00

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00:46:51

Dorking Out With Jayson Graham

Heterodorx ·

2021/04/19

Note: This special episode is presented principally in the Russian language. This week Nina and Corinna talk with Corinna’s old friend, Jayson Graham. We talk about the process of marketing creative works, the role copyright may (or may not) play in establishing one’s marketability, and whether or not social media might be destroying America. The M. Jayson Graham Show https://anchor.fm/m-jayson-graham-show/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support

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00:59:38

Kickin’ it Old-Skool with Miranda F@%#*&g Yardley

Heterodorx ·

2021/04/12

Corinna and Nina enjoy a delightful conversation with stunning and brave intelligent and funny transsexual Miranda Yardley, author of such memorable bons mots as, "lighten up trannies, this used to be fun" and "a quick note on pronouns: I don't give a shit." While Miranda and Corinna recall alarming changes in the trans community over recent decades, Nina sadistically oppresses both of them with her cishet privilege. Joking aside, Miranda has been the target of some extreme bullshit, online and more

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00:39:23

Anger Management for Online Stupidity

Heterodorx ·

2021/04/03

Nina discusses how she manages rage with the heat of a thousand suns triggered by Internet bullshit she shouldn’t care that much about. Corinna confesses to some high-running emotions after an encounter with bullshit on the new app Clubhouse. At 27:35 Nina mis-sexes a male who is definitely not a pedophile, and at 32:00 she goes on an important rant against coerced pronouns. Finally, she declares a new identity as a CERC (pronounced “curse”). Graham Linehan’s substack:

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01:16:52

I.P. Everywhere! Featuring Guest Heterodork Stephan...

Heterodorx ·

2021/03/29

Get ready for some hardcore Libertarian nerd-talk, as Corinna goes head-to-head with Stephan Kinsella, Libertarianism’s foremost critic of copyright and patents and author of Against Intellectual Property. Thrill to dazzling theories of labor vs. action, restrictive covenants, negative easements, burdened estates, nuisances, limitations, consent, redistribution of rights, triangular intervention, property, scarcity, value, allocation of contestable resources, conflict, trade secrets, the Patent

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00:57:46

Heterodorx Gets Schooled by MK Fain

Heterodorx ·

2021/03/22

Corinna and Nina discover what happens when they interview someone more articulate than either of them: MK Fain, the youthful Doyenne of feminist social media. She is the founder of Spinster.xyz, co-founder of Ovarit, publisher of 4w.pub, and co-host of the Identity Crisis podcast. We touch on free speech and pornography, and its upcoming technology frontier. As the discussion goes into intellectual property, MK corrects Corinna’s misconceptions of who really benefits from copyrights. Find MK on

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00:39:42

Guest Heterodork Alex Gleason, the Johnny Appleseed...

Heterodorx ·

2021/03/13

Heterodorx welcomes its first guest, serial social network creator Alex Gleason. Alex created Soapbox.FE, the software running feminist social media platform spinster.xyz and Nina’s own neenster.org, among others. His next project, Tribes, aims to make it easy and painless for anyone to start their own fediverse server by pushing a few buttons. The Dorx cover technology, the sociology of social networks, and adamantly avoid talking about the weather. You can find Alex at his fediverse server,

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00:38:49

©ommunity $tandards

Heterodorx ·

2021/03/07

What’s the difference between “community standards” and censorship? How do we determine what books to include and exclude from libraries? Why does the Dr. Seuss estate get to decide what Dr. Seuss books stay in print? Is copyright censorship, as Nina asserts? What’s the difference between plagiarism and copyright violation? In an uncharacteristically focused and coherent conversation, Nina and Corinna discuss these questions and more. Then, Jesse and Katie chip in with some ideas on how to close

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00:38:51

The Gender Critical Movement is Dead. Long Live the...

Heterodorx ·

2021/02/28

Nina considers the history of creepy fetishists in comics, leading to a discussion about “perverts” and attempts to normalize them to children. Then Nina blathers about Eunuchs for a while. Suddenly, Corinna takes the conversation in a different direction by declaring the Gender Critical Movement over. This gradually leads to a scrappy argument filled with tension and suspense! Who wins? Listen and find out! Women’s Human Rights Campaign: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/ Save Women’s

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00:24:46

Personality Disorders Are Valid

Heterodorx ·

2021/02/22

Nina gets a GitHub account, and the first thing she worries about is whether a mob will cancel her there. Corinna debates coming out as non-binary. Is "human" a gender, or still a species? After some discussion, we agree that all identities, tribal affiliations, cult memberships, and personality disorders are valid, so please don't cancel us. Nina's new art/software project: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2021/02/17/mystic-symbolic-the-developening/ --- Support this podcast:

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00:36:25

TERF-War Inside Baseball and Rural Intersectionality

Heterodorx ·

2021/02/13

Trans-identified female Scott Newgent, who just released an important (dare we say heroic) article in Newsweek, is praised by Nina on feminist social media site Spinster.xyz, only to be met with harsh criticism from radical feminists who argue trans gender critics must detransition to be taken seriously. TERF-war inside baseball continues as Corinna brings up the Biden Administration’s endorsement of boys in girls’ sports. Corinna suggests drawing a Rural/City axis into Intersectionality, to which

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00:56:54

Everyone Expects the Spanish Inquisition

Heterodorx ·

2021/02/07

For no reason in particular, Corinna wants to talk about the Spanish Inquisition, which was originally the Inquisition of Heretical Depravity. Since we strictly forbid any form of heresy in this safe space, it hardly makes sense on why the Inquisition would be germane. In completely different news, Corinna and Nina talk about the New York Times parting ways with David McNeal, its foremost science reporter, after he was overheard uttering a blasphemous word in the company of children from wealthy

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