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Reality Escape Pod - Escape Rooms & Immersive Games

David Spira & Peih-Gee Law

Your hosts David Spira & Peih-Gee Law explore immersive gaming from all angles. Our guests have made awesome stuff: ARGs, puzzle hunts, tabletop games, and of course, escape rooms. Our aim is to bring together different segments of the gaming world and share ideas between them.

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01:21:17

Special Release: S3E2 Bonus Episode - Johanna Koljonen

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2022/08/30

Today we're releasing a Patreon Bonus Episode from Season 3 to give you a sneak peek of our REPOD Patreon perks. Johanna's episode was extremely popular, and with good reason. She shared a wealth of knowledge about game design with us on the main episode, and yet, we still had so many questions for her. Luckily she stuck around for the Aftershow. This one in particular feels very much like an extension of the main episode. If you haven't listened to her main episode, we highly recommend you play

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46:19

David & Peih-Gee get Stranger on The Infinite Escape...

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2022/08/09

The Infinite Escape Room is a puzzling podcast where a group of pals sit down, have a drink, and work together to solve an audio escape room. The creators are brilliant and hilarious, and they were kind enough to welcome us on a recent episode. We had a blast puzzling our way through this Stranger Things-inspired episode, despite David constantly trying to off Peih-Gee in some nefarious way, and Peih-Gee trying to figure out what is "bed cheese." This is something a little different from our usual

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59:51

S3E12 - RECON Boston 22: All About the Reality Escape...

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2022/05/03

In season 3, episode 12, we chat with Lee-Fay Low and Theresa Wagner about the upcoming RECON, the Reality Escape Convention, taking place in person, in Boston, August 21-22, 2022. RECON is a new type of convention mixing talks from leaders in the immersive gaming industry as well as games ranging from an ARG, a large-format ballroom game, an included escape room, and visits to Level99 and Boda Borg. Lee-Fay is the Programming Coordinator. She talks to us about the different talks you can expect at

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53:44

S3E11 - The Puzzler: Best-Selling Author A.J. Jacobs

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2022/04/26

In season 3, episode 11, we chat with New York Times bestselling author of The Year of Living Biblically, A.J. Jacobs, about his newest book The Puzzler. A.J. is a self-described “human guinea-pig,” immersing himself deeply, even masochistically, into a given topic and chronicling his experiments, whether it’s living by the Bible literally for a year, or thanking everyone involved in the creation of his morning cup of coffee. An avid crossword solver, A.J. dives down the rabbit hole of puzzles in

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01:01:43

S3E10 - Environmental Storytelling: Jeff Leinenveber...

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2022/04/19

In season 3, episode 10, we chat with Jeff Leinenveber and Jarrett Lantz, creators of The Nest, an intimate, memorable immersive experience that was a masterclass in environmental storytelling. The Nest unfolded through a series of audio cassette tapes that guests discovered while wandering through a labyrinth of memorabilia and memories. As former Disney Imagineers, Jarrett and Jeff really showcased their talent in scenic design, crafting a rich narrative through an incredible set that took

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01:35:53

S3E9 - The Mailbag Episode

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2022/04/12

In Season 3, episode 9 of REPOD, David and Peih-Gee are joined by David’s wife and REPOD producer Lisa Spira, along with Steve Ewing, the REPOD editor. We take questions and comments from listeners who have called in with voicemails or sent us emails. We had some really thought provoking questions, some lovely compliments about listeners’ favorite episodes, and of course, some hilarious prank calls. We also got to play some hilarious games designed by Steve and Peih-Gee, themed on our past guests

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01:08:02

S3E8 - Chris Waters: The Architect of Constructed...

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2022/04/04

In Season 3, Episode 8, we chat with Chris Waters, The Architect of Constructed Adventures. Chris creates extraordinary, customized treasure hunt adventures for special occasions. His experiences are primarily for private clients and have included everything from being picked up in helicopters to getting mysterious envelopes delivered by otters. Chris is the Willy Wonka of treasure hunts, doling out mysteries and golden prizes. However, instead of secrecy, he is incredibly transparent about what he

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01:14:09

S3E7- Adrenaline Mapping & Escape Room Design with...

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2022/03/28

In season 3, episode 7, we chat with Tommy Honton, creator of the award-winning escape room Stash House. He is a master craftsman of experience design with his bottomless bag of tools, combining storytelling and game design to create memorable, playable experiences. It’s no coincidence that Tommy’s been mentioned by so many guests on this podcast. It’s clear his huge network exists because he genuinely cares about elevating the escape room community and helping like-minded creators succeed. It was

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44:57

S3E6 - Hillary Manning: Puzzle Design Expert on...

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2022/03/22

In Season 3, episode 6 of REPOD, we chat with Hillary Manning, the puzzle design expert on Create The Escape. Create the Escape is a fun kids show where in each episode, kids design an escape room for their parents to play and hopefully escape. Hillary has previously worked at escape rooms like Beat the Bomb and Escape The Room as a puzzle designer and gamemaster. Hillary walks us through the challenges of designing escape rooms for a television audience, and creating puzzles that are both fun to

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48:26

S3E5 - Matt Leacock: Creator of Pandemic

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2022/03/15

In Season 3, Episode 5 of REPOD, we sat down with Matt Leacock, best known for creating the Pandemic series of cooperative board games. There are several expansions for Pandemic as well as the Pandemic Legacy games, which are stand alone versions of the game with an interwoven narrative that affects the rules and mechanics of the game as you play. The Pandemic and Pandemic Legacy games share many commonalities with escape rooms, including cooperative gameplay, cinematic narrative structure, and

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58:11

S3E4 - The Nerd Whisperer: Gabby Pascuzzi of Survivor...

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2022/03/08

In Season 3, Episode 4 of REPOD, we were joined by Gabby Pascuzzi, a Survivor contestant who competed on season 37, Survivor David vs. Goliath. Gabby is half of one of Survivor’s most iconic Nerd Alliance, alongside Christian Hubiki, a robotics professor. Gabby has a lifelong passion for puzzles and games, and she joined us to help explain why Survivor is so beloved by many game and puzzle enthusiasts. We break down some interesting game mechanics introduced on Survivor’s more recent seasons and

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50:24

S3E3 - Interactive Narrative: Kathryn Yu of No...

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2022/03/01

In Season 3, episode 3, we chat with Kathryn Yu, Executive Editor of No Proscenium and a co-founder of the Immersive Experience Institute, a non-profit that aims to create a sustainable future for immersive and experiential arts and artists worldwide. Kathryn joins us to chat about game design in branching narrative games, including her brilliant creation Metaverse Noir, told through the medium of Twitter threads. Through her work with No Proscenium, she has her finger on the pulse of immersive

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01:31:04

S3E2 - Pushing Boundaries Safely: Johanna Koljonen &...

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2022/02/22

In Season 3, episode 2, we chat with Johanna Koljonen, the co-founder of Participation Design Agency. She is an experience designer specializing in Nordic larp and an expert in designing for safe and enthusiastic participation. Johanna has helped create some incredibly compelling and intense Nordic larps, including Vampire the Masquerade, Inside Hamlet, and House of Craving. Johanna puts careful thought into every aspect of her experiences, encapsulated in her concept that “everything is a

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S3E1 - Art Meets Gameplay at Immersia Escape Games

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2022/02/15

To kick off Season 3, we chat with Maxime and Roxane Filion of Immersia Escape Games. Their escape games truly impressed us on our recent trip to Montreal. In this episode they talk about their immersive approach to game design, their diverse gaming influences, and how they measure success. Maxime and Roxane are also passionate about their creations and about this industry. Moreover, they have a shared vision of what escape games can be, and they are striving to build that future. Show

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01:17:21

Surprise Bonus Episode from Season 1, Episode 4

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2021/10/06

Bonus Content? After each episode, hosts Peih-Gee and David record another show, just for Patreon backers ($5/ month and up). Sometimes the guests stick around for the aftershow. Where the main episode is a heavily edited and produced experience, the bonus content is a freeform conversation. Guests This sneak peek is the REPOD S1E4 Patreon Bonus Content, recorded with Anne and Chris Lukeman from CU Adventures in Time & Space. You can find REPOD S1E4 with guests Anne and Chris

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53:24

S2E8 - The Cinematic Delusions of Jon Braver

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2021/09/27

In season 2, episode 8, we chat with Jon Braver, creator of Delusion. Delusion is an interactive horror theatre experience where monsters might crawl on the ceiling, creatures could be flying through the air, and at any moment you could be pulled aside for your own personal storyline. Jon describes Delusion as a cinematic moving play with a rich, linear storyline where the audience gets to be the main character in a horror movie. Jon started creating immersive horror experiences as a teen in his

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55:05

S2E7 - The Puzzletales of Rita Orlov, creator of The...

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2021/09/21

In Season 2, episode 7, we chat with Rita Orlov, the designer of industry-favorite, indie narrative puzzle games. Rita made a huge splash in the puzzle community with the launch of The Tale of Ord — an epic tabletop escape game with narrative depth and puzzle density. She followed that with The Emerald Flame and The Light in the Mist, a tarot card puzzletale. Rita not only designs her games, she also self-produces, funding all of them via Kickstarter. She talks to us about some of the difficulties

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55:21

S2E6 - Puppets, Haunts, & Pranks—Brian Corbitt,...

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2021/09/14

In Season 2, episode 6, we got to chat with Brian Corbitt, the creative mind behind the raunchy and hilarious Miss Jezebel—an actor-driven experience that’s a mix between immersive theatre and an escape room. Two of Brian’s games have won Golden Lock Awards from Room Escape Artist, and it was also voted in the top three best online escape rooms in the 2020 TERPECAs – the Top Escape Rooms Project Enthusiasts’ Choice Awards. Brian’s games all have a quirky signature style to them, including the use of

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01:33:20

S2E5 - RECON Rising: A Look Behind the Scenes at the...

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2021/08/17

In season 2, episode 5, we take a deep dive into the inner workings of RECON, our escape room convention. In 2020, Room Escape Artist was poised to launch their first escape room convention. They quickly pivoted to a virtual convention when it became apparent that they wouldn't be able to host an in-person event due to quarantine. Within three months, they put together an unforgettable experience for the escape room community. They had even bigger aspirations for this year's RECON, with new

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47:44

S2E4 - The King of Smash - Ken Hoang on Competitive...

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2021/07/06

In season 2, episode 4, we discuss possible futures for competitive escape room playing with the King of Smash, Ken Hoang. Ken was the world champion of Super Smash Bros. Melee for five years and helped create much of the high level competitive gameplay. Ken was also an extremely strategic player on Survivor: Gabon. Smash Melee was originally designed as a party game, not for competitive play. However, by exploiting glitches and mechanics that were built into the system, whether intentional or not,

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