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A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica

Claire Mazur & Erica Cerulo

Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We"ve heard this weekly podcast described as a "unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things," and we"re very much on board with that take.

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00:44:45

Guest Thingies We’ve Tried and Loved

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/04/25

We’ve road-tested a whole slew of the Thingies recent guests recommended, and we have much to share! Join us for this and some extremely entertaining voicemails responding to our question “What’s the sorority version of ‘praise and polish?’” From our episode with Rumaan Alam, Claire was inspired to listen to the audiobook version of Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe, and Erica has been using Fitbod (but only doing the exercises she wants to). Thanks to Harling Ross Anton’s recs, Erica’s

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00:51:10

Our Best Party Tricks (Yes, for Actual Parties) and...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/04/18

It’s party (discussion) time! We get into games, snacks, drinks, desserts, and—but of course—tricks. Also, you know we love the airline culture and lifestyle beat: We have to dig into the NYT profile of Janis Burl, the brains and puns behind the incredible TSA Instagram account. Our fave party games include quizzes about the guest of honor, custom crossword puzzles, Mölkky, and whatever this filling-up-a-cup-with-water game is called. We have a lot of thoughts about the snacks to which

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00:49:01

Thingies with Laura Stylez (an Icon!!) and Consuming...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/04/11

Time for another Thingies ep with a dream guest: We’re graced by Laura Stylez, co-host of the best radio show in all the land, Ebro in the Morning. We talk music, hangover cures, and baby toys—you know how we like a good mix. Laura’s Thingies: Mombella Mimi Mushroom teether, which both little ones and their parents love, and the ultimate, travel-friendly hangover cure: coconut oil, turmeric, and activated charcoal, all in pill form. On the music front, Rihanna's Anti, Beyonce’s Lemonade and

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00:49:14

Our Wedding Rundowns and One Very Special Dinner

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/04/04

Per a listener request—which: We welcome them!—we’re talking about weddings. Specifically, our weddings, from our favorite and least favorite parts of the planning process to how it all went down day-of. Plus: a stand-out dining experience (two, if we’re rounding up). Check out Dept of Culture Brooklyn for excellent Nigerian food and the opportunity to talk to strangers! Also, when in Joshua Tree: La Copine. If you’re considering an NYC City Hall wedding, Fox Fodder Farm has the

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00:54:32

Our Buying-Things Update

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/03/28

For your consideration, we’re sharing some thoughts about buying things, including a letter of recommendation for shopping in person and takes on sourcing made-in-America products, participating in One Fit February, and acquiring things while traveling. If you have tactics or conundrums, we want to hear them: 833-632-5463! If you’re interested in the idea of One Fit February (or the less alliterative One Fit April), score yourself some cool points and check out this installment of the Blackbird

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00:43:33

Thingies and “Unmentionables” with Mia Clarke and...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/03/24

This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode. This ~bonus Thursday ep~ is brought to you by the heroes at Nyssa, a company providing products that support women through the most transformative times of life, from puberty to post-menopause. (Hit their site and use the code ATHINGORTWO for 15% off everything, including absolutely

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00:46:00

Even More Home Trends and the JLo Content That’s...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/03/21

Why haven’t we been talking about JLo more here? Well, we’re about to remedy that—and fill ya in on more, more, more design trends that are speaking to us right now. The women artist biographies/books Claire will be picking up include Ninth Street Women: Lee Krasner, Elaine de Kooning, Grace Hartigan, Joan Mitchell, and Helen Frankenthaler: Five PaAnne Truittinters and the Movement by Mary Gabriel, Daybook: The Journal of an Artist by Anne Truitt, and Everything She Touched: The Life of Ruth

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01:05:32

Guest Thingies with Véronique Hyland and, Ugh, Cooking

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/03/14

Ooh, what a joy it is to talk Thingies with Véronique Hyland, the fashion features director at Elle who coined the term millennial pink and has a brilliant new book, Dress Code: Unlocking Fashion from the New Look to Millennial Pink, that checks so many boxes for us. But first, can we discuss cooking motivation…or lack thereof? A smattering of dinner-making inspo if you need some too: 1) Brothy soup recipes—vegetarian lemon rice soup, beans and greens soup with harissa, and Helen Rosner’s

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00:53:13

How We're Thinking About Creativity and Shoeless...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/03/10

It’s time for an update on how we’re doing with our (non-work-related) creative practices, and—hey, while we’re at it—we’ll go ahead and share some thoughts on what it's like to live in a shoe household vs. a shoeless one. Claire’s creative resources: Wendy MacNaughton’s DrawTogether podcast, The Artist's Way (plus this New Yorker interview with the author Julia Cameron), and Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman. Erica’s creative resources: Jami Attenberg’s

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00:40:47

Beauty Stuff We're Loving—Plus Themed Entertainment

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/02/28

Introducing an ode to the beauty products and concepts we’ve been very into. Plus! The odd joy of creating entertainment syllabi to curb streaming (and reading) indecision. If you’re also looking to take a Kirsten Dunst deep-dive, you’re gonna want to read this New Yorker piece. The beauty products we’re all about: Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, Freck Cheekslime in Fielding, Westman Atelier Baby Cheeks Blush Stick in Petal, Trish McEvoy Long-Wear Lipliner in Barely Nude, Charlotte

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01:01:30

Author Rumaan Alam's Thingies and the Cross-Body Phone

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/02/21

This week, we muse on cross-body phone holders—time will tell if the trend wins us over—and talk Thingies with Rumaan Alam, author of Leave the World Behind, That Kind of Mother, and Rich and Pretty…books that are Thingies in their own right. His Thingies: The Fitbod app, audiobooks of dad books via Libro.fm, uniform dressing, Cate Le Bon, and some real page-turners including Mouth to Mouth by Antoine Wilson, Luster by Raven Leilani, Last Resort by Andrew Lipstein, and Mrs. Palfrey at the

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00:37:58

The Home Trends That Have Us Wanting to Redo a Room

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/02/17

This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode. Recording live from a frictionless day, we’re talking all about the home trends that we’ve been loving right now, from Murano glass to canned-tomato decor. If you’re also having a Murano glass moment, check out this NYT article and this YouTube video showing the process and then

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00:56:51

Val Monroe’s Thingies and the Weirdness of Signatures

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/02/14

Let’s talk about signing your name (hello, strange custom) and dig into Val Monroe’s Thingies! This genius woman—the former beauty director of O, The Oprah Magazine—writes the extremely thoughtful and epically named newsletter How Not to F*ck Up Your Face, and we’re fairly obsessed. Sign up for Val’s newsletter at valeriemonroe.substack.com immediately. This is the moving installment on Facetiming with her granddaughter. Val had a bunch of reading (and audiobook-listening) recommendations:

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00:43:20

Our Best Shopping Memories—and Our (Many) Thoughts on...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/02/10

This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode. This week, we’re getting wrapped up in a conversation about robes, the practice of towel time, and our favorite shopping memories featuring dated (but iconic!) tie skirts and timeless wrap dresses. Some of the robes we love, for your lounging pleasure and leisure: Parachute’s

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00:43:12

Grappling with Planning and Revisiting Nostalgic Scents

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/02/07

Get ready to take a trip down (your nose’s) memory lane because we’re talking about the scents of our youth. Oh, and: We’re making a plan to prevent contingency-planning from becoming a full-blown hobby. Scent-sational reading: this 1988 New York Times article, written during the dawn of the age of the perfume ad, the book The End of Fashion by Teri Agins on how perfume and stockings became luxury-brand cash cows, and this BBC article about the heyday of celebrity

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00:39:56

Content We Feel Great About Right Now

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/01/31

This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode. We’re in need of things to enjoy—no, relish: Bring on the comfort content! Please! If you have recs, share ‘em with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. Read more about CUNY’s anonymous cash donor in the New York Times. Check out Lewis Miller’s

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00:55:32

Guest Thingies with Harling Ross Anton and...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/01/24

This week, we talk Thingies with the writer, creative consultant, and theorist behind the 3 p.m. outfit expiration, Harling Ross Anton. She also breaks down her rubric for what makes a good recommendation. All this to say: Everything is nice in here. Harling’s Thingies! Fleece-lined black tights (all of them, really), Merit's The Minimalist Perfecting Complexion Foundation and Concealer Stick (Harling uses the shade bisque.), Chinya’s milk frother, Mighty Sesame Co.’s Tahini in a Squeeze

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00:38:54

The It’s Not That Deep Woman, Acknowledgement...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/01/17

It’s the first episode we’re recording in 2022, and we have THOUGHTS! TO! SHARE! We discuss the It’s Not That Deep archetype, the wackiest (slash most ingenious) “work smarter and not harder” moments, and acknowledgement sections—unskippable, if you ask us. Related to the It’s Not That Deep mentality: Tune into our perfectionism ep (and maybe pick up Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, too.). Two essays on the acknowledgment section: "With a Little Help From Their Friends (and Agents and

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Guest Thingies with Kelly Wright of Yuns and Romance...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2022/01/10

If you need a Week Two 2022 pick-me-up, how about an all-consuming romance novel and some Thingies from our guest Kelly Wright, founder of the internet’s coolest hardware store, Yuns? For romance novels featuring autistic leads, pick up The Kiss Quotient, The Bride Test, and The Heart Principle by Helen Hoang (<< someone profile this woman!)! For a straight romance by a queer couple, read The View Was Exhausting by Mikaella Clements and Onjuli Datta. For one that features our beloved

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00:53:35

Obligation, People-Pleasing, and Pillows (Yes, Pillows)

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/12/20

This episode is all about the pressures we feel on our lives and our time (and, to a lesser extent, our necks and our tailbones). Don’t sleep on this one, is what we’re saying. Live that ComfiLife! Side-sleep with a Hullo pillow! The “Things We Want to Leave Behind and How to Start a Running Routine” ep we reference. The Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin—there’s also a quiz for that. A handful of reads related to parenting (and, sigh, house work): All Joy and No Fun by Jennifer

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