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The Human Risk Podcast

People are often described as the largest asset in most organisations. They are also the biggest single cause of risk. This podcast explores the topic of "human risk", or "the risk of people doing things they shouldn"t or not doing things they should", and examines how behavioural science can help us mitigate it. It also looks at "human reward", or "how to get the most out of people". When we manage human risk, we often stifle human reward. Equally, when we unleash human reward, we often

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73:13

Professor Todd Kashdan on The Art of Insubordination

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/03/12

Why might insubordination be a good thing? Normally when we use that word, it’s seen as a negative.  But there’s an alternative interpretation, where insubordination is seen as a positive, constructive challenge to traditional orthodoxy. For ideas to evolve and societies to progress — in other words, if we want to mitigate human risk - we need to cultivate rebels who are committed to challenging conventional wisdom and improving on it. But change is never easy. And it's not easy being a rebel.

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64:23

Daniel Ross talks a load of BS

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/03/10

What should you listen to when you’ve heard the entire Human Risk podcast back catalogue? I'm glad you asked. Because one of the aims of the show is to explore ideas, stories and people that can help to inspire us to think differently about human risk. And that includes pointing you in the direction of other content producers who have interesting things to say.On this special episode, I’m introducing a fellow podcaster who produces content that I think you’ll find interesting. Daniel Ross is the

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65:20

Dr Joe Zammit-Lucia on The Politics of Business

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/03/03

Why should businesses get involved in politics? Traditionally companies have tried to avoid getting involved in political issues, because remaining apolitical, means you avoid offending anyone. But in the 21st century, there is an increasing expectation that companies will take a position. As we’ve seen with the invasion of Ukraine, businesses have been taking steps to engage with the public mood. Some have ceased doing business in or with Russia or Russian clients, others have provided

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53:26

Nicole Smith-Ludvik on Skydiving & Stunts

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/02/26

What drives people to follow careers that involve dangerous activities like skydiving & stunts? My guest is Nicole Smith-Ludvik, a professional skydiver and stuntwoman. Last year, Nicole starred in two incredible advertisements for Emirates, the Dubai based airline which featured Nicole standing on the top of the world’s tallest building, the Burj Khalifa.If you haven’t seen the advertisements — and I recommend watching them before you listen to the show — then you can watch them here:Original ad

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65:56

Ben Knowles on Risk Compensation in Cycling

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/02/22

Why would a bicycle delivery company ban its riders from wearing helmets? Depending on where you're reading this, you'll either think it's normal — hello, for example, to my Netherland's based listeners 🇳🇱 — or irresponsible. On this episode, I'm speaking to Ben Knowles, the CEO of PedalMe who is the man behind the company that made that decision.I'd heard of PedalMe, but not their policy. That changed, when they posted a thread on Social Media explaining the rationale behind it. Not only did

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64:50

Jared Bibler on Iceland's Secret

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/02/18

Why is something that happened in Iceland in 2008 still of relevance today? The answer is revealed by my guest Jared Bibler. He's the author of a book called 'Iceland's Secret: The Untold Story of the World's Biggest Con'.Having started his career working for a Wall Street Bank, Jared moved to Iceland in 2004, supporting the Icelandic pension funds' foreign investments. He resigned from his job at a leading Icelandic bank days before the 2008 Icelandic financial crisis and was subsequently hired to

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63:12

Professor Camilla Andersen on Comicbook Contracts

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/02/11

How can comic books reduce human risk? We've all seen airline safety cards that use imagery to communicate complex messages in a simple to understand way. So why couldn't we use that same logic for legal contracts? That's what my guest Professor Camilla Andersen, set out to discover when she stumbled across the idea during a conversation with a colleague.That led to the creation of Comic Book Contracts (CBCs). In our discussion, Camilla talks to me about the genesis of the idea and how CBCs are

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60:29

Dr Zoe Chance on Influence

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/02/06

How can we become more influential?That’s a question that fascinates my guest on this episode, Dr Zoe Chance. She teaches a course on it at Yale and has just published a new book called Influence Is Your Superpower: The Science of Winning Hearts, Sparking Change, and Making Good Things Happen. In our discussion, we explore the simple ways in which we can all be more influential and how that can help us to fulfil our potential.To learn more about Zoe visit her website:

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30:41

Gill Kernick on The Grenfell Tower Disaster — Part Two

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/01/27

This episode is the second part of my discussion with Gill Kernick about the Grenfell Tower Disaster and the broader lessons we can draw from it.In the previous episode, Gill and I talked about Grenfell. I recommend listening to that before listening to this one. You'll find it here: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/gill-kernick-on-the-grenfell-tower-disaster-part-one/Using historical examples like the 17th century Great Fire of London and a fire in the late 1990s at a gas plant in Australia,

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68:41

Gill Kernick on The Grenfell Tower Disaster — Part One

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/01/21

What can we learn from the UK's largest residential fire since World War Two, in which 72 people died? The Grenfell Tower disaster happened in the Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea, one of London's wealthiest areas. As a result of catastrophic decision-making — both by those responsible for maintaining the building and those responding to the fire — what should have been a containable fire turned into a blazing inferno. In this episode, I explore how those decisions were made and what we can

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62:44

Nick Wallis on The Great Post Office Scandal

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/01/15

How did the Post Office deliver one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in British history?My guest Nick Wallis, is a journalist and radio presenter who has written a book called The Great Post Office Scandal which explains how a billion pound IT system, unleashed an enormous legal, ethical and political scandal.As Nick explains on the show, hundreds of sub-postmasters were alleged to have engaged in theft, false accounting and/or fraud and were taken to court by the Post Office. This resulted in

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67:11

Dr Sarah Tischer on Sustainable Compliance

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/01/07

What does Sustainability have to do with Compliance?On this episode, I’m speaking to a Compliance innovator that has combined both. Dr Sarah Tischler is Head of Compliance for NKG, the world’s largest coffee trading company. Since NKG is privately owned and isn’t operating in a regulated industry, on the face of it, they’re not the kind of company you might naturally expect to have a compliance function. And up until a few years ago, they didn’t. Until Sarah came along and persuaded them that they

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62:52

Sebastian Boo on Kindness

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2022/01/02

What is kindness and why does it matter? One of my New Year's resolutions for 2022 is to be kinder to others. So, in this episode, I'm learning more about what being kind means — spoiler alert, it doesn't mean always being nice — and why that matters.My guest Sebastian Boo is a trainer, tutor and researcher at the London School of Economics and Political Science and the founder of Kindness Advantage Ltd, a company that brings kindness training to the workplace. So he knows what he's talking about

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65:05

Alex Chesterfield & Ali Goldsworthy on Depolarisation

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/12/28

Why do we live in such a polarised world and what can we do to minimise the dynamic? On this episode, I’m joined by Alex Chesterfield and Ali Goldsworthy, two of the co-authors of a book called Poles Apart - Why People Turn Against Each Other and How To Bring Them Together. They’re also two of the co-hosts of the Changed My Mind podcast that talks to people who have changed their minds on big issues. Alex Chesterfield is a behavioural scientist with a master's degree in Cognitive and Decision

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48:19

Béatrice Otto on Fools

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/12/19

What do fools have to do with managing human risk? On the face of it, they’re likely to be a driver, rather than a solution. But when we use the term to describe in the context of court jesters, then the answer might be very different. As my guest on this episode, Béatrice Otto, helps me to understand. She’s the author of a book called Fools Are Everywhere: The Court Jester Around The World, which explores the history of the role. I’m fascinated by this from a human risk perspective because the

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45:02

Josh Berry on Comedy, Satire & Impressions — Part Two

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/12/15

This episode is the second part of my discussion with comedian & impressionist Josh Berry. If you haven't yet listened to the first part, I recommend you do that, before listening to this.You'll find Part One here: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/josh-berry-on-comedy-satire-impressions-part-one/In this episode, we discuss how Josh's interest in human decision-making drives his comedy and explore further aspects of his work. Links to specific topics we discuss are below.To find out more about

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54:46

Josh Berry on Comedy, Satire & Impressions — Part One

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/12/10

What can comedy teach us about human decision-making?That’s something that my guest on this episode Josh Berry, knows all about. He’s a comedian, impressionist and satirist — though as you’ll hear on the episode, he’s not hugely keen on that third label. If there’s anyone that can help us to understand human risk, it’s someone who is really good at observing human behaviour and making us laugh about it.I first discovered Josh last year, thanks to videos he released on social media which went

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56:00

Christian Harris on Slips, Trips & Falls

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/12/04

How can we prevent people from falling over and injuring themselves? What sounds like a simple challenge, is actually a major issue. In a normal year, over 300,000 people in the UK alone have to go going to hospital after slipping on a surface. That equates to 1.5 million bed days and around a billion pounds, so 1.3 billion dollars of insurance claims. My guest on this episode, Christian Harris, is the founder of Slip Safety, a company that specialises in helping prevent these kinds of accidents. If

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67:27

Colin Pereira on reporting in fragile environments

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/11/27

How can we manage risk and keep people safe in fragile environments?My guest Colin Pereira is Director at HP Risk Management, a consultancy that assists media organisations operating in challenging environments. Since the business of journalism is to report, news organisations need to get their reporters into locations the rest of us might prefer to avoid. As a human risk challenge, this is multifaceted — many of the risks facing journalists in the field are human, and the decisions they make while

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64:01

Mary Shirley on Women In Compliance

The Human Risk Podcast ·

2021/11/21

How can diversity help make Compliance functions more effective? My guest, Mary Shirley is a compliance professional who has been working to promote women in compliance. She’s the co-host of The Great Women in Compliance podcast and the co-author of a book called Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance.One of the ways we can mitigate human risk is to have a more diverse range of opinions involved in decision-making. And that’s arguably even more important

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